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Does terrorism/oppression work?
 
Having eyes to see, and cannot see; and having ears to hear, and cannot hear, because their hearts have been hardened.
 
Having eyes to see, and cannot see; and having ears to hear, and cannot hear, because their hearts have been hardened.
So then why so much hatred for the Palestinians and Muslims man? Jesus wouldn’t have hated them. Just saying…just me.
 
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I hate what I hate, though it be not people.
 
Does terrorism/oppression work?

No thats why they had to become more sophisticated

So if you listen to say Noam Chomsky he would explain it in the following terms....

He would say that under a dictatorship the government must rule its people through force and the fear of force. This is like holding a big club over their head.

But in a 'democracy' the government is not supposed to do that. However does that mean democracys are representative of the peoples wishes? Well lets examine that idea...

In our society there are 'classes' of people. In the UK the normans and flemish came in and displaced the anglo saxon ruling class and their knights became barons who carved up the land amongst themselves. They formed a 'class' of people who passed on their wealth and positions to their offspring maintaining a social hierarchy.

This system of social hierarchy has continued to the modern day with the ruling class forming a cohesive society within society by going to the same schools, the same universities, the same social events and clubs and the same sercet societies. They also help each other into the same kind of influential jobs such as: military, media, government, finance, banking and intelligence (this is known as 'old school ties' or nepotism).

These classes exist in the US as well.

So does the ruling class stand aside and let democracy function and the will of the people shape our society? No of course not...they control the game and they jelously guard their power, wealth and privilege.

So as chomksy would say they decided that force didn't work (see the barons being challenged by the rising merchant class for example leading to civil war) so they decided that they would need a new system through which they could control the masses.

'Democracy' allowed them to create a system whereby the people thought that they had power when they didn't. The people vote every 5 years for one of two parties, both of which are controlled by the ruling class. This is the same in both the US and the UK.

This is why no matter who the people vote for the ruling class keep getting richer and everyone else gets poorer

So the system we are in is far more insidious than a system of force. If someone is forcing you to do something then the threat is clear and imminant. If however you are being subtly manipulated then you might not even realise that you are being steered.

''None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.'' Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
I hate what I hate, though it be not people.

lol don't kid yourself man.....you're not thinking for yourself.....you think what your zionist christian preacher of choice tells you what to think

If you were thinking for yourself you would have watched that shlomo sand clip i posted and commented on it.....but you've glossed over it...because your false perception cannot be maintained if you actually face inconvenient truths
 
Tell me: have you ever seen a small cut on a tree bleed? Have you ever seen the wound become worse and larger, so that it festers?
 
Tell me: have you ever seen a small cut on a tree bleed? Have you ever seen the wound become worse and larger, so that it festers?

If you are referring to the harm done to the ashkenazi jews then i would encourage you to think for yourself and listen to EVERYONES views regarding that matter and find out exactly what was going on and why...you might be suprised what you find out

But any past harms are certainly no justification for you to support current harms
 
Ash'alah.
 
Israel pounds Gaza as mediators try to rescue truce
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-pounds-gaza-mediators-try-rescue-truce-424639155

As Israeli warplanes pummelled Gaza, fresh clashes break out in the West Bank after the funerals of two men; thousands head to streets in pro-Palestinian protests held around the world

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Emergency workers try to retrieve the body of a man killed when the Al-Qassam mosque was targeted by an Israeli air strike early Saturday in Gaza City (AFP)

Israeli warplanes pummelled Gaza with 50 air strikes that killed five Palestinians Saturday as militants slammed 23 rockets into Israel, defying international efforts to find a fresh ceasefire.

Tens of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators marched through central London and Cape Town, condemning Israel's one-month military assault on 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza.

Gaza emergency services said five men were killed in Israeli raids - two travelling by motorcycle through Al-Maghazi refugee camp and three pulled from the rubble of Al-Qassam mosque in the middle of the enclave.

The Palestinian interior ministry said Israeli jets destroyed three mosques. At least two of them were considered close to Hamas.
Resident Ibrahim Taweel said the Israeli military telephoned him at 3am, warning him to evacuate his nearby home five minutes before the mosque was attacked.

"I couldn't tell all my neighbours, so I evacuated myself and my neighbour and after five minutes an F-16 fired one rocket and after that a bigger rocket destroyed the mosque," he said.

The army said 23 rockets rained on Israel, bringing to 61 the number of projectiles launched since a 72-hour truce ended on Friday.
One Israeli civilian and a soldier were wounded on Friday.

Israel said it had carried out more than 100 strikes in Gaza since Friday, 49 of them since midnight, targeting those responsible for the rocket fire.

Clashes in West Bank

In the occupied West Bank, fresh clashes broke out after the funerals of two Palestinian men shot - Mohammed al-Qatary, 20, and Muhammad Idriss, 40 - dead by Israeli troops during protests against the Gaza operation on Friday, witnesses said.

Palestinian youths threw stones and Israeli troops responded with tear gas and stun grenades.

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A Palestinian protester throws stones towards Israeli security forces during clashes in Hebron on Saturday (AFP)

The 72-hour truce collapsed after mediators in Cairo failed to extend a ceasefire when it expired on Friday morning as Israel accused Hamas of breaching the quiet with pre-dawn rocket attacks.

The conflict has now killed at least 1,911 Palestinians and 67 people on the Israeli side, almost all soldiers, since 8 July.
The United Nations says at least 1,354 of the Palestinian dead were civilians, including 447 children.

In London, up to 150,000 protesters packed Oxford Street, marching to the US embassy and on to Hyde Park, many of them chanting "Free, Free Palestine" and holding up banners saying "UK - Stop Arming Israel".

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A demonstration against Israel's military operations in Gaza and in support of the Palestinian people was also held in Paris on Saturday (AFP)

Tens of thousands of demonstrators also marched through Cape Town to protest the Israeli military operation, one of the biggest rallies in the city since the end of apartheid.
Demonstrators carried placards stating "Israel is an apartheid state" and "Stop Israeli murder".

In Gaza, Hamas, which Israel brands a terror organisation, vowed no concessions.
"The occupier's intransigence will get it nowhere and we will make no concessions on the demands of our people," spokesman Fawzy Barhum said in a statement.

The lifting of Israel's land and sea blockade, imposed in 2006 after Hamas captured an Israeli soldier, has been a key demand of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority in Cairo talks.

A Palestinian official said on condition of anonymity Egypt and the Palestinians had reached a draft agreement for submission to Israel on Saturday.
It would see Egypt and the Palestinian Authority take control of the Rafah border crossing into Egypt, essentially activating part a unity accord Hamas signed with the PA in April.

Negotiations on the sea port, demanded by Hamas, would then be delayed and entrusted to the PA, with whom Israel is prepared to deal.
Israel waged the conflict to destroy Hamas's arsenal of rockets and its network of attack tunnels.

Hopes of new truce

But combat has not resumed at the same fierce intensity, feeding hopes of a new truce bring agreed.

"Our hope is that the parties will agree to an extension of the ceasefire in the coming hours," US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said.

President Barack Obama told The New York Times in an interview published Saturday that there were limits to US influence on both sides to reach a solution to the decades old Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had a strong support base and Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas was weak domestically, he said.
"If he (Netanyahu) doesn't feel some internal pressure, then it's hard to see him being able to make some very difficult compromises, including taking on the settler movement," Obama was quoted as saying.

Chris Gunness, spokesman for the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), called for the Gaza blockade to end so reconstruction can begin.
"Huge swathes of Gaza have been levelled. We cannot rebuild it with our hands tied behind our backs," he said. "The blockade must end."

At least 65,000 people have had their homes destroyed, and UNRWA said 222,000 people are still sheltering in 89 UN schools.
US-based Human Rights Watch said the knocking out of Gaza's only electrical power plant, by apparent Israeli shellfire, has worsened the humanitarian crisis.

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How can anyone continue to support the state of israel? Please re-consider who and what you are supporting.

We are all family, all of humanity! If we fall for this 'us vs them' trick all the time we'll just perpetuate the oppression/death cycle.

We don't need to uphold any system that would manipulate, brutalize, dehumanize, indoctrinate, and celebrate so much death and destruction.

Let's stand together, united for peace for all people. Never forget, we are all in this thing together! <3


[video=youtube;LuH8StEEvN4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuH8StEEvN4&amp;list=UUNpAwV6GlFst1x3jmqCgYbQ[/video]
 
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How can anyone continue to support the state of israel? Please re-consider who and what you are supporting.

We are all family, all of humanity! If we fall for this 'us vs them' trick all the time we'll just perpetuate the oppression/death cycle.

We don't need to uphold any system that would manipulate, brutalize, dehumanize, indoctrinate, and celebrate so much death and destruction.

Let's stand together, united for peace for all people. Never forget, we are all in this thing together! <3


[video=youtube;LuH8StEEvN4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuH8StEEvN4&amp;list=UUNpAwV6GlFst1x3jmqCgYbQ[/video]

For peace to occur we would have to see an end to the belief in jewish exceptionalism

An end to the idea that the jews are somehow more important than the rest of humanity

Incredibly that idea is not only held by jews (many of which are brainwashed) but also by many brainwashed non jews for example christian zionists

Many jews are not zionists and many zionists are not jews.....but regardless the concept of the jews as being special or chosen needs to end for peace to have a chance
 
The trouble with one-sided thinking is, taken to such an extreme, blatant propaganda from such visceral feelings. [MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION], you have become the single eye you hate so much.
 
This during a truce...
 
Another place gone.
 
Gone. I would level this place. Where? Where the rockets are seen coming from.
 
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Gone.
 
Disappear.
 
Big hole in the ground.