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  1. NaeturVindur

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    So, I just registered for the US Selective service, because the gov't is full of a$$ holes and would rob me of $25000 if I didn't. I am very much a conscientious objector, and everyone I know knows that (very well, I have screamed at people [who agree with me] because the idea makes me that angry :rant:), but apparently, if I ever need to make a case for it, I need more than hear-say. In that vein, anyone know of any anti-war petitions (in the US) I could sign? I would prefer being able to put my actual signature on it, instead of an internet petition, but I'll take whatever I can get.
     
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    Just act flamboyantly gay. Even if you're not.

    Or if worse comes to worst, is there a way to join the National Guard instead of the other military branches?
     
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    What? There's an actual Draft?

    Got any marketable skills? Want to emmigrate?
     
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    I'm the same way as you. They could never draft me; I wouldn't last in boot camp. I am too sensitive for that and I would emotionally break down after an hour into a slobbering mess on the ground. They would invaraibly kick me outbefore they could even get me through boot camp.
     
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    1 I am flamboyantly gay, but they thought of that (the law actually says that, even if you are gay, if you try to use it to get out of the army, they'll keep you in [just to spite you]).

    2. No, there isn't a draft, but, in case there is, I want to make sure I'm not drafted. I'd love to emigrate, but I have no marketable skill, and won't until I get out of college.

    3. I wouldn't survive either, but I'd expedite the process of getting kicked out by just generally being a pain in the ass to who ever tries to get me to do anything (I have it all planned out, and it all begins with me signing petitions, so where are they?)
     
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    http://skippyslist.com/list/

    58. The following words and phrases may not be used in a cadence- Budding sexuality, necrophilia, I hate everyone in this formation and wish they were dead, sexual lubrication, black earth mother, all Marines are latent homosexuals, Tantric yoga, Gotterdammerung, Korean hooker, Eskimo Nell, we’ve all got jackboots now, slut puppy, or any references to squid.

    87. If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it.

    132. The loudspeaker system is not a forum to voice my ideas.

    134. The loudspeaker system is not to be used to broadcast the soundtrack to a porno movie

    Has to be an ENTP.
     
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    Wait a sec. I don't get it. Is military service mandatory in the U.S.A as well? In my country, it is, and you're practically doomed if you try to somehow avoid it.
     
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    What country are you in Taz?
     
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    Greece.
     
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    Ahh. Join the navy, they're loyal, they never leave their mates behind.
     
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    As for right now, its not. I just want to be ready if it ever becomes mandatory. (I am keeping that list, and, if need be, am planning on using almost every item on it, generally in order, until I'm removed from the army with disgrace [I would wear being called a disgrace by any military as a badge of honor])
     
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    We don't actually have a say to where they'll send us. Excepting special forces, where we have to previously apply for, they pretty much send us wherever they like. Greece has a total population of 12 million, so they just send us where they need men the most. And it's 12 months of service, then we're "free" to continue living our lives. Some choose to stay though.

    Edit: aha. I see.
     
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    Why are you spazzing Windy? Even if a draft were instituted (and that would have to be like WW3 is commencing) there is a very long process with many variables. There are lots of medical conditions that would disqualify you from service.

    For instance,

    Do you have asthma or chronic bronchitis?
    Have you ever had any major reconstructive surgery (ACL, RCL, shattered bones requiring pins etc)?

    Additionally, if you were required, smoke a joint before you have to report in. You'll fail a drug test and be released. You could also state that you were an objector and they'll show you out the back door. There was a kid I worked with in Texas who decided that to get out of a deployment he'd become a conscientious objector. Of course the kid was dumb enough to believe he'd still be allowed to stay in the military, just never depoly....but thats another story.

    These days it's nothing more than a ritual. The military would be more likely to recall me...as an ex-service member with an honorable discharge (even though my Inactive Reserve requirement has been fulfilled)...then they would be to start up a draft.
     
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    I'm spazzing because I DESPISE everything that has to do with militarism. EVERYTHING. I have having to give my name to those B*****ds, and even let them think that I'd remotely be willing to serve and murder (<-- my view of the military).
     
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    Sounds to me like there is a little bit of ignorance about what the military actually is and does there.

    Hence the very ahem, vehmenent animosity towards the military.
     
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    Exactly,

    If you were drafted, it doesn't mean you are going to be on the front lines shooting people. There are other posistions where you arent actually killing others. And the don't just blindly place you, they take other things into concideration. There really isn't so much need to have that much anger towards the military. Do I agree with it? No, not at all. Nevertheless, it is needed.

    The reason I am against the draft is because I know that I do not have the mental constitution to handle it, and they would very likely detect that in me.
     
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    I realize that the military does more than just kill people, but the number dead at their hands vastly over shadows all the good things they've done. I refuse to be associated with people who are remotely willing to such things. IMO, the only good reason to kill someone is that they're imposing a direct, imminent threat to one's life, and killing them is the only way to prevent it. To my eyes, preemptive strikes are murder, nothing less.
     
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    I don't like the fact that I had to register, but you basically have to if you want a job. I don't think a draft would go over, but I have thought about what I would do if one did happen and people did get along with it.

    I cannot kill people for purposes of imperialism. If the rich want to control energy resources, they can fight for them on their own. I will avoid war at all costs, including death. I would rather live in the jungle.

    So if a war breaks out and a draft gets started (which is very unlikely), contact me and we can start the draft card burning rally.
     
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    Is there not a way of avoiding on religious grounds, say as a Buddhist, Shinto or a Jainist, in that any military action, no matter how remote, is in violation of your religious beliefs to not cause harm to other sentient beings?
     
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    or christianity?
     
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