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    This is definitely a suggestion and not a bad one. It sucks that the places people live and work and rely on for necessities get destroyed, but on one hand, it has been reported that it's outside groups and /or opportunists or people that aren't really in it for the cause. On the other hand, attacking federal agencies would surely be considered an act of domestic terrorism/war and the outcome would not favor the protestors.
     
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    If you rally enough support, it will work. Unfortunately, these outside forces keep undermining the BLM movement and are making it almost impossible to unite the citizenry under one voice. As it stands, the response to structural inequality is highly polarized, there is no union. If riots continue, the only thing they will achieve is martial law.
     
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    Right. You have the people it happens to and those that don't listen or choose to remain indifferent.

    That's their intention and it only undermines the movement to those that don't recognize a need for change or don't care.
     
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    That's what this is.
     
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    By not rioting. By engaging in peaceful protest. I've already explained what is at stake if the riots continue.
     
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    Protests rally support. Riots undermine the movement. Establishment power has already polarized the left and the right on these issues. The last thing you want to do is lose the support of the right.
     
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    There are plenty of peaceful protests. How are you going to isolate the small percent of individuals who show up with the intent to cause destruction?
     
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    I remember all the schools being torched in southern Thailand years ago. They had to send every available emergency vehicle available.

    The parking lots were filled with roofing nails.

    The armories were hit, the guards killed, and the contents taken.
     
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    There have been reports of outside groups, opportunists, and people not for the cause causing the damage. If one supports the cause, one can separate the peaceful protesting from the rioting.
     
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    I remember 9/11...
     
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    Nothing. All I'm doing is trying to push back against the idea that riots will work. This idea is spreading like wild fire all over social media, and its so disillusioning to see how everyone just accepts the rhetoric without even thinking it through.
     
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    Yeah. Unfortunately, the media are doing their best to smudge the two groups into one.
     
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    Why do you think it hasn't been thought through?
    Don't get me wrong, violence is not cool, rioting and property damage sucks, this definitely some 'white guilt' stuff with some. All these things are separate from the issue at hand and why people are taking to the streets in the first place.
     
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    Yes. Some media does. Some media doesn't. Of course, both of those media's tell viewers/readers not to listen to the other. (at least here in the US) Division. Still the cause is legitimate
     
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    Well, people already tried to wipe out The Pentagon on 9/11 so I guess your suggestion to do that is out. People are already peacefully protesting all over the country, so no issues there. The riots are such a small part of what's happening.

    You've already got Trump gassing people out of Lafayette Park so he can do a photo op with a Bible in front of Church. The violence is already being perpetrated by the police and the government. He's bringing the violence TO people. I think some shattered glass in storefronts and some looted shoes are the absolute least of the issues we are seeing during all of this.

    I get that you think if people aren't perfectly well behaved and falling in line that somehow there are already going to be dire consequences, but people are already living through some pretty terrible things.

    Like I said, people have to start somewhere. You can't control for the individuals that show up in their black hoodies and backpacks throwing molotov cocktails because they get off on it. Those are the people you should be appealing to if the riots are your concern. Or maybe the police that are abusing their power. Up to you which is the problem that needs to be addressed first.
     
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    This should open everyone's eyes. Everyone! It was so fucked up! All of it!
     
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    Yeah but Hilary's emails!
     
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    Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!
     
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    Right. And as has already been mentioned, everything else has failed. Nothing works. What is left? What's the correct way to drum up support? Silence, so no one gets upset at all the activity in the streets?
     
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    Trump is rallying support to declare martial law. This isn't a fantasy, its a reality. If you don't believe this is a problem, then I don't know what to say.
     
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