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Then clearly we are living in alternate realities EH.
It happens.
I’m really not here to argue with you anymore...it’s puts a bitter taste in my mouth and I’m trying to eliminate all the unnecessary negativity from my life currently.
You believe what you want....but you really should try and show more proof of what you say.
That has always been severely lacking in claims and posts and disagreements you make.
I’m glad you can admit you are biased...we all are to a certain extent of course...but seriously can you try and be a bit more objective before you jump all over someone when they make factual statements that you don’t like?
I really don’t want to see Mike Pence as POTUS...the best I can hope for now is that Trump becomes a lame duck after the midterms until we can find someone who actually drains said swamp and who isn’t giving Putin a handy under the table at Davos.
Yes, I think the man is a moron...have you taken the assessment test he took to prove his intelligence?
“Can you draw a line to the picture of the Elephant?” - yeah, really putting lots of faith in that guy.
But I dislike Hillary too...something you consistently overlook.
More than Trump, I believe our Congress is full of lobbyist bitches on both sides of the isle.
Clearly many states have been gerrymandered by both parties and that shit needs to stop.
The money that has been injected into politics is obscene and is superseding and eroding our democracy.
We have very clear proof of Russians fucking with our elections - including the upcoming one - and still Trump does jack shit but instead goes off like an uber guilty airhead as he spouts “there’s no collusion!!!” over and over and over...then Fox news plays it over and over and over.
None of the Congressionally approved sanctions to punish them have been implemented because Trump doesn’t want to...and hey, Putin said he didn’t do it.
I believe in innocence until proven guilty - like I’ve stated many times, I am fully willing to wait and see the evidence before I make up my mind of what crimes have or have not been committed.
If Trump is exonerated - so be it...I still dislike the guy for many, many other reasons, but I won’t be chanting “lock him up” (as some seem to enjoy doing) without due process.
As for your ability to sift through the crap and get to the crap-core...nothing in this thread suggests that you have such an ability when it comes to politics...so far I’ve seen you have to redact more than is actually confirmed when @Stu inevitably posts up the facts.

Anyhow...good luck...I won’t be blocking you...just ignoring what you say....so have at it.
Cold as fuck this morning outside right?
Snooze. Put me on block or dont. If you dont Ill continue to point out how you are wrong and continue to be right. My words wont be tempered to walk on eggshells around your overactive wants and needs or to have your fragile mindset be supported with a continued influx of fantasy.
Nothing you have ever said here has been correct. You have opinions sure and I am not qualified to tell you about your own opinions other than to say maybe you should start to question how it is you turn out to be wrong about everything constantly.
Now, I took you off block for a short time. It looked like we might actually have a real conversation until you demanded I take your fantasy world and accept it as a possibility. That will never happen.

How about you put me on block so we leave eachother alone? You can live in peace in your fantasy world and I can live in peace never having to come into contact with it again. That or just leave me alone. You literally have nothing to say that I am even remotely interested in hearing at this point.
Live a good life, be happy but leave me alone.
Thanks.
 
Snooze. Put me on block or dont. If you dont Ill continue to point out how you are wrong and continue to be right. My words wont be tempered to walk on eggshells around your overactive wants and needs or to have your fragile mindset be supported with a continued influx of fantasy.
Nothing you have ever said here has been correct. You have opinions sure and I am not qualified to tell you about your own opinions other than to say maybe you should start to question how it is you turn out to be wrong about everything constantly.
Now, I took you off block for a short time. It looked like we might actually have a real conversation until you demanded I take your fantasy world and accept it as a possibility. That will never happen.

How about you put me on block so we leave eachother alone? You can live in peace in your fantasy world and I can live in peace never having to come into contact with it again. That or just leave me alone. You literally have nothing to say that I am even remotely interested in hearing at this point.
Live a good life, be happy but leave me alone.
Thanks.
That’s exactly what I just said in regards to you.
Great job repeating it back to me - as always.
Goodbye.
 
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....you are trying to post the false story that it was Russia who stirred up the election? .
, Dec 16, 2016

Mueller charges 13 Russians with interfering in US election to help Trump
DoJ indictment alleges Russian operatives ‘communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign’

· Ten key takeaways from the Mueller indictment

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/robert-mueller-russians-charged-election

Russia hoax investigation all based on a report ordered by the Clinton campaign!!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Eventhorizon, Feb 14, 2018

...I think its clear the only collution happening is first, the Russia dossier which the investigation is based on in the first place showing 1) not only to be based on false information itself but 2) having been "ordered" by the Democrats for the sole reason of damaging Trump and his agenda.....
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Dec 29, 2017
............... All of the accusations of collusion, obstruction or just criminal activity in general alleged regarding the Trump administration are proving to be false.... It seems now also that the Russian collusion story was primarily based on the long since debunked dossier of the ex-british spy Christopher Steele which has been known for a long while..
Jun 26, 2017

Although he is free to deny that it happened, Trump has no standing to assert that collusion has been ruled out. The special counsel’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and Russian contacts with Trump’s team is continuing and it’s premature to say “everyone found” there was nothing.

The probe has not publicly established that Moscow and the Trump team colluded — or that they didn’t. The same is true of other potential misdeeds, like obstruction of justice. Trump has often stated that even Democratic leaders have stated there was no collusion. In fact, they have only said that proof has not yet emerged. http://ktar.com/story/1894826/ap-fact-check-trump-says-collusion-is-disproved-its-not/?show=comments

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.
The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.Together with more information about the Trump/Russia connection from the British and Dutch governments, plus a suspicious trip to Moscow by Trump adviser Carter Page, the FBI decided it had enough to open an investigation, which it kept quiet throughout the election

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/report-papadopoulos-sparked-russia-investigation.html


the Orbis report [the Steele Dossie] identified multiple elements of the Russian operation including a cyber campaign, leaked documents related to Hillary Clinton, and meetings with Paul Manafort and other Trump affiliates to discuss the receipt of stolen documents. Mr. Steele could not have known that the Russians stole information on Hillary Clinton, or that they were considering means to weaponize them in the U.S. election, all of which turned out to be stunningly accurate. ........... How could Steele and Orbis have known about the Russian overtures to the Trump Team involving derogatory information on Clinton?..... The Orbis documents refer repeatedly to Paul Manafort’s “off-the-books” payments from ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s pro-Russian party, and Russian concerns that it may be a vulnerability that could jeopardize the effort. According to the Orbis report, the Russians were concerned about “further scandals involving Manafort’s commercial and political role in Russia/Ukraine.” And, indeed, there have been further scandals since the Orbis reports were written..... Further, the Trump Administration’s effort lift sanctions on Russia immediately following the inauguration seems to mirror Orbis reporting related to Mr. Cohen’s promises to Russia, as reported in the Orbis documents. https://www.justsecurity.org/44697/steele-dossier-knowing/

.... asking a foriegn entity to get involved with our election process and though not illegal it probably should be.
, Dec 8, 2017

a 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on the 2002 law. The judges said that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."
Another election law specialist, John Coates at Harvard University Law School, said if Russians aimed to shape the outcome of the presidential election, that would meet the definition of an expenditure.
"The related funds could also be viewed as an illegal contribution to any candidate who coordinates (colludes) with the foreign speaker," Coates said. http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...ws-hosts-wrong-no-law-forbids-russia-trump-c/

I'm calling bs on this. Russia absolutely wanted a Hillary Presidency.
Dec 10, 2016


....a group of intelligence chiefs, including the director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats; the F.B.I. director, Christopher Wray; and the C.I.A. director, Mike Pompeo—all Trump Administration appointees—told a Senate panel that they were in accord with the findings of January, 2017, when the intelligence community asserted that Russia had meddled in the 2016 elections and did so to the detriment of Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

[the Mueller ]indictment bluntly states that the intent of the Russian operation was to damage the Democratic candidate. “Defendants’ operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump (‘Trump campaign’) and disparaging Hillary Clinton,”
https://www.newyorker.com/sections/news/muellers-indictments-end-trumps-myth-of-the-russia-hoax

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So more and more politicians on both sides are talking about these hacks as if it is fact Russia was behind it. ...my understanding is that the CIA has still not directly briefed anyone in Congress as required by law about what is known or unknown...
Dec 18, 2016

POLITICS AUGUST 11, 2016 / 6:10 PM / 2 YEARS AGO
Exclusive: Congressional leaders were briefed a year ago on hacking of Democrats - sources
Mark Hosenball, John Walcott
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-hacking-of-democrats-sources-idUSKCN10N00D

It's the summer of 2014. A hacker from the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD has penetrated the computer network of a university building next to the Red Square in Moscow, oblivious to the implications. One year later, from the AIVD headquarters in Zoetermeer, he and his colleagues witness Russian hackers launching an attack on the Democratic Party in the United States. The AIVD hackers had not infiltrated just any building; they were in the computer network of the infamous Russian hacker group Cozy Bear. And unbeknownst to the Russians, they could see everything.

The Dutch access provides crucial evidence of the Russian involvement in the hacking of the Democratic Party, according to six American and Dutch sources who are familiar with the material, but wish to remain anonymous. It's also grounds for the FBI to start an investigation into the influence of the Russian interference on the election race between the Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and the Republican candidate Donald Trump.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/media/dut...ssia-s-interference-in-us-elections~a4561913/

From late 2015 until the summer of 2016, during routine surveillance of Russians, several countries discovered interactions between the Trump campaign and Moscow. The UK, Germany, Estonia, Poland, and Australia (and possibly the Netherlands and France) relayed their discoveries to the U.S.[110]

According to The Guardian because the materials were highly sensitive, Robert Hannigan, then the director of the UK's GCHQ, contacted CIA director John O. Brennan to give him information directly.[110] Concerned, Brennan gave classified briefings to U.S. Congress' "Gang of Eight" during late August and September 2016.[111] Referring only to intelligence allies and not to specific sources, Brennan told the Gang of Eight that he had received evidence that Russia might be trying to help Trump win the U.S. election.[110] It was later revealed that the CIA had obtained intelligence from "sources inside the Russian government" that stated that Putin gave direct orders to disparage Clinton and help Trump.[112] https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=2016 United States election interference by Russia&item_type=topic
 
, Dec 16, 2016

Mueller charges 13 Russians with interfering in US election to help Trump
DoJ indictment alleges Russian operatives ‘communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign’

· Ten key takeaways from the Mueller indictment

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/16/robert-mueller-russians-charged-election

Eventhorizon, Feb 14, 2018

Dec 29, 2017
Jun 26, 2017

Although he is free to deny that it happened, Trump has no standing to assert that collusion has been ruled out. The special counsel’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and Russian contacts with Trump’s team is continuing and it’s premature to say “everyone found” there was nothing.

The probe has not publicly established that Moscow and the Trump team colluded — or that they didn’t. The same is true of other potential misdeeds, like obstruction of justice. Trump has often stated that even Democratic leaders have stated there was no collusion. In fact, they have only said that proof has not yet emerged. http://ktar.com/story/1894826/ap-fact-check-trump-says-collusion-is-disproved-its-not/?show=comments

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.
The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.Together with more information about the Trump/Russia connection from the British and Dutch governments, plus a suspicious trip to Moscow by Trump adviser Carter Page, the FBI decided it had enough to open an investigation, which it kept quiet throughout the election

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/report-papadopoulos-sparked-russia-investigation.html


the Orbis report [the Steele Dossie] identified multiple elements of the Russian operation including a cyber campaign, leaked documents related to Hillary Clinton, and meetings with Paul Manafort and other Trump affiliates to discuss the receipt of stolen documents. Mr. Steele could not have known that the Russians stole information on Hillary Clinton, or that they were considering means to weaponize them in the U.S. election, all of which turned out to be stunningly accurate. ........... How could Steele and Orbis have known about the Russian overtures to the Trump Team involving derogatory information on Clinton?..... The Orbis documents refer repeatedly to Paul Manafort’s “off-the-books” payments from ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s pro-Russian party, and Russian concerns that it may be a vulnerability that could jeopardize the effort. According to the Orbis report, the Russians were concerned about “further scandals involving Manafort’s commercial and political role in Russia/Ukraine.” And, indeed, there have been further scandals since the Orbis reports were written..... Further, the Trump Administration’s effort lift sanctions on Russia immediately following the inauguration seems to mirror Orbis reporting related to Mr. Cohen’s promises to Russia, as reported in the Orbis documents. https://www.justsecurity.org/44697/steele-dossier-knowing/

, Dec 8, 2017

a 2011 U.S. District Court ruling based on the 2002 law. The judges said that the law bans foreign nationals "from making expenditures to expressly advocate the election or defeat of a political candidate."
Another election law specialist, John Coates at Harvard University Law School, said if Russians aimed to shape the outcome of the presidential election, that would meet the definition of an expenditure.
"The related funds could also be viewed as an illegal contribution to any candidate who coordinates (colludes) with the foreign speaker," Coates said. http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...ws-hosts-wrong-no-law-forbids-russia-trump-c/

Dec 10, 2016


....a group of intelligence chiefs, including the director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats; the F.B.I. director, Christopher Wray; and the C.I.A. director, Mike Pompeo—all Trump Administration appointees—told a Senate panel that they were in accord with the findings of January, 2017, when the intelligence community asserted that Russia had meddled in the 2016 elections and did so to the detriment of Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

[the Mueller ]indictment bluntly states that the intent of the Russian operation was to damage the Democratic candidate. “Defendants’ operations included supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump (‘Trump campaign’) and disparaging Hillary Clinton,”
https://www.newyorker.com/sections/news/muellers-indictments-end-trumps-myth-of-the-russia-hoax

· Dec 18, 2016

POLITICS AUGUST 11, 2016 / 6:10 PM / 2 YEARS AGO
Exclusive: Congressional leaders were briefed a year ago on hacking of Democrats - sources
Mark Hosenball, John Walcott
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-hacking-of-democrats-sources-idUSKCN10N00D

It's the summer of 2014. A hacker from the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD has penetrated the computer network of a university building next to the Red Square in Moscow, oblivious to the implications. One year later, from the AIVD headquarters in Zoetermeer, he and his colleagues witness Russian hackers launching an attack on the Democratic Party in the United States. The AIVD hackers had not infiltrated just any building; they were in the computer network of the infamous Russian hacker group Cozy Bear. And unbeknownst to the Russians, they could see everything.

The Dutch access provides crucial evidence of the Russian involvement in the hacking of the Democratic Party, according to six American and Dutch sources who are familiar with the material, but wish to remain anonymous. It's also grounds for the FBI to start an investigation into the influence of the Russian interference on the election race between the Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and the Republican candidate Donald Trump.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/media/dut...ssia-s-interference-in-us-elections~a4561913/

From late 2015 until the summer of 2016, during routine surveillance of Russians, several countries discovered interactions between the Trump campaign and Moscow. The UK, Germany, Estonia, Poland, and Australia (and possibly the Netherlands and France) relayed their discoveries to the U.S.[110]

According to The Guardian because the materials were highly sensitive, Robert Hannigan, then the director of the UK's GCHQ, contacted CIA director John O. Brennan to give him information directly.[110] Concerned, Brennan gave classified briefings to U.S. Congress' "Gang of Eight" during late August and September 2016.[111] Referring only to intelligence allies and not to specific sources, Brennan told the Gang of Eight that he had received evidence that Russia might be trying to help Trump win the U.S. election.[110] It was later revealed that the CIA had obtained intelligence from "sources inside the Russian government" that stated that Putin gave direct orders to disparage Clinton and help Trump.[112] https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=2016 United States election interference by Russia&item_type=topic
Yeah the one time I listened to Obama who said Trump was crazy for thinking the election was being manipulated stu. Your right I was way off base. So yes stu, I have been misled but catching me 1 time out of a thousand for being wrong and not holding yourself accountable for being wrong a thousand times to once right...well dont think I care.
But hey, you like your fantasy world as well. Have fun there.
 
I should have included the one where you say that Hannity is always right.
 
I should have included the one where you say that Hannity is always right.
Hannity is rarely wrong. I cant remember the last time he was.
 
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That’s exactly what I just said in regards to you.
Great job repeating it back to me - as always.
Goodbye.
Really!? Seriously? Are we finally in agreement? So...are you really going to put me on ignore? Are we finally done? Do we never have to communicate again? Please tell me its true.
 
Really!? Seriously? Are we finally in agreement? So...are you really going to put me on ignore? Are we finally done? Do we never have to communicate again? Please tell me its true.

You would like that too much.
But here is a hint - if you stop talking to me, I will probably stop talking to you.
Derp.
 
I have been misled but catching me 1 time out of a thousand for being wrong and not holding yourself accountable for being wrong a thousand times

Fallacious hyperbole
 
I should have included the one where you say that Hannity is always right.

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Fallacious hyperbole
Wyote I am completely secure in being right and have admitted every single time I have ever been wrong.
Thats really all that needs to be said.
 
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Wyote I am completely secure in being right and have admitted every single time I have ever been wrong.
Thats really all that needs to be said.

lol good for you man

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Wyote I am completely secure in being right and have admitted every single time I have ever been wrong.
Thats really all that needs to be said.

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"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.


 
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Must suck to know that Hannity the idiot you are implyimg he is ends up being right almost all of the time.



Yes...Hannity...so smart...will go down in history books as one of the greatest minds of our generations...lol.
Must suck to know you have no concept of empathy, facts, compassion, or reality.

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So at this point the only thing keeping Muellers investigation into Trump alive is the lefts desire for the investigation to affect the 2018 mid-terms. Its pretty clear at this point theres nothing there. No collution, no obstruction of justice. The positive thing that came out of all of this is the exposure of the FBIs bias along with others, very likely their criminal activity as well. Thats not say all the FBI but levels high enough up to hide their own criminal activity. Lets wrap this up and get to the real criminals like Comey, Rice, Hillary and Obama.
 
So at this point the only thing keeping Muellers investigation into Trump alive is the lefts desire for the investigation to affect the 2018 mid-terms. Its pretty clear at this point theres nothing there. No collution, no obstruction of justice. The positive thing that came out of all of this is the exposure of the FBIs bias along with others, very likely their criminal activity as well. Thats not say all the FBI but levels high enough up to hide their own criminal activity. Lets wrap this up and get to the real criminals like Comey, Rice, Hillary and Obama.

Funny how people keep getting indicted...and then very strange how they then plead guilty?
Like I said - no concept of facts, or reality.
Then you keep reiterating how unbiased and open minded about it you are...what a load of BS.
 
Funny I just did a search on Hannity and pages and pages of returns of liberal media trying to discredit and destroy him popped up. Even in the face of all the lies he still manages to get to truth out. Just an incredible person Sean is. A great American patriot. Thanks Sean and keep up the good work. Send those mouth breathers into a frenzy!
 
Bobsledder Lauren Gibbs fires back at critics who slammed her photos with Ivanka Trump

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Lauren Gibbs takes a selfie with Ivanka Trump during the final day of competition at the Winter Olympics Sunday. (AP Photo/Christophe Ena)

American silver medal-winning bobsledder Lauren Gibbs has taken to social media to respond to criticism over photos she took with Ivanka Trump when the first daughter visited the just-concluded Pyeongchang Winter Olympics.


Trump and Gibbs exchanged pleasantries Sunday morning while watching the four-man bobsled competition. At one point, Gibbs let Trump try on the silver medal that the athlete won with Elana Meyers Taylor in the two-woman bobsled competition.

"I feel like this almost is like trying on someone's wedding band," Trump said. "Am I allowed?"





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Gibbs posted a photo of her and Trump on Twitter with the caption, "It’s important to remember that we don’t have to agree on everything to get along, be civil to each other and enjoy each others company."

Social media backlash was swift and Gibbs ultimately deleted the post, though that didn't stop her from firing back at some of her more strident critics.

"History will treat [President Trump] as an equal to Hitler," one user wrote. "Your children and grandchildren will be so embarrassed of you for this picture."
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Sick diseased in the head people. This makes me want to puke on the world.