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Further read the article. That is only referencing GDP. Actual value is still significantly higher for America. Your statement of china as a bigger economy is a misleading statement. truly they aren't even close.

and how do you know they aren't fake? Those people would have to be beyond stupid to take a picture with them. Really assuming your right and they did work with them, then they wouldn't meet in person, but rather through intermediaries. That would be insanely stupid on their part. I am almost certain those photos are fake.
Firstly about the photos you really sound ignorant man.
It is pretty well known the the US funded the Taliban against the Russian invasion.
Same with Saddam…we were buddies with all these guys and sold them the very weapons that killed our guys in the IRAQ war.
We did the same thing with IRAN too, but the CIA was able to pull the microchips (from f-16s sold to them) that allowed them to operate and left them with billions of dollars worth of junk.
China did just overtake us in GDP, and that is a significant thing since China fucking owns the US.
 
ooohhh, that was when they where allies. That does make sense. I thought the photos where implying these where some kind of clandestine meetings like just before 9/11 or each respective incident.

The pattern is always the same...the US arms people and then blows the shit out of them

This way the military industrial complex makes money on selling second rate weapons, then makes more money on using first rate weapons to blow up the second rate weapons and then the corporations move in and get the rebuilding contracts as well and the oil companies get to sell lots of oil which is burned up in all the action

Lots of death but lots of profits for the big corporations and all the loses are saddled by the taxpayers who also provide the soldiers for the cannon fodder

[video=youtube;6X56vWHFGGU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X56vWHFGGU[/video]
 
Indiana Jones stuff is really good to watch on TV. IRL, I'd love to see a group of people that thought they could set up an infrastructure and something that worked better. God forbid they offer to help the ones that have made things possible for all these years to work. Someone that thinks they have a better way and wants to overthrow the governments of the world, have no clue how to work with others. fail

Stay off the roads, stop using the toilets, bury your own garbage, and rush to your friends house to help when it catches fire or they are being robbed. Nothing wrong with an idealist, but it works easier in the mind than with a bunch of crooks and criminals running free all over the world. Only the strong survive? You wouldn't even be here. People that need to help to make the world a better place, they should start with reality check 101.....if they can find one.
 
Indiana Jones stuff is really good to watch on TV. IRL, I'd love to see a group of people that thought they could set up an infrastructure and something that worked better. God forbid they offer to help the ones that have made things possible for all these years to work. Someone that thinks they have a better way and wants to overthrow the governments of the world, have no clue how to work with others. fail

Stay off the roads, stop using the toilets, bury your own garbage, and rush to your friends house to help when it catches fire or they are being robbed. Nothing wrong with an idealist, but it works easier in the mind than with a bunch of crooks and criminals running free all over the world. Only the strong survive? You wouldn't even be here. People that need to help to make the world a better place, they should start with reality check 101.....if they can find one.

What a load of claptrap!

There are many ways to structure a system and your own country has changed over time for example banking deregulation

To say for example that deregulation led to corrupt banking practices doesn't make you an 'idealist' it just means you are not a brainwashed eejit

And concerning criminals running amok....they already are and they are in your government and banking system

You need a reality check
 
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Indiana Jones stuff is really good to watch on TV. IRL, I'd love to see a group of people that thought they could set up an infrastructure and something that worked better. God forbid they offer to help the ones that have made things possible for all these years to work. Someone that thinks they have a better way and wants to overthrow the governments of the world, have no clue how to work with others. fail

Stay off the roads, stop using the toilets, bury your own garbage, and rush to your friends house to help when it catches fire or they are being robbed. Nothing wrong with an idealist, but it works easier in the mind than with a bunch of crooks and criminals running free all over the world. Only the strong survive? You wouldn't even be here. People that need to help to make the world a better place, they should start with reality check 101.....if they can find one.

It has become more and more clear that those who are in power are bought by the rich.
Are you denying that is happening?

Are you denying that wages have stagnated for 30 years?
That student loans are ridiculously high?
That the rich don’t pay their share of taxes?
That corporate welfare is out of control?
That medical bills bankrupt a large portion of America?
That production has shot through the roof here, along with CEO pay…except for median wages, leaving everyone else SOL?
That we keep fighting wars we have no reason or right to fight for…and watch our young men die so assholes like Dick Cheney can make billions?
You mean that country where we have two sets of laws…one for the poor, and one for the rich?
And last time I checked the trash got picked up and the fire department showed up…oh wait…maybe not if certain people have anything to say about it - Republican solution to fighting wildfires: Don't pay for 'em, just cut down the damn trees
That was just two months ago…
You mean the country…that has systematically cut wages, high paying jobs, pensions, retirements, social-security, and food stamps for the poor….but also seems to find all the money in the world to give tax subsides to giant BILLION DOLLAR PROFITING OIL COMPANIES?
That one…it’s broken and bought and your vote no longer counts.
You may be afraid that the country will fall apart if someone steps in to change things back to benefitting the people of this nation instead of the very rich, but I’m not and many others are not afraid.
And we will keep fighting for what we believe in, and you can fight for what you believe in…but just remember who’s side the one’s making all the profit are on.
 
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It has become more and more clear that those who are in power are bought by the rich.
Are you denying that is happening?

Are you denying that wages have stagnated for 30 years?
That student loans are ridiculously high?
That the rich don’t pay their share of taxes?
That corporate welfare is out of control?
That medical bills bankrupt a large portion of America?
That production has shot through the roof here, along with CEO pay…except for median wages, leaving everyone else SOL?
That we keep fighting wars we have no reason or right to fight for…and watch our young men die so assholes like Dick Cheney can make billions?
You mean that country where we have two sets of laws…one for the poor, and one for the rich?
And last time I checked the trash got picked up and the fire department showed up…oh wait…maybe not if certain people have anything to say about it - Republican solution to fighting wildfires: Don't pay for 'em, just cut down the damn trees
That was just two months ago…
You mean the country…that has systematically cut wages, high paying jobs, pensions, retirements, social-security, and food stamps for the poor….but also seems to find all the money in the world to give tax subsides to giant BILLION DOLLAR PROFITING OIL COMPANIES?
That one…it’s broken and bought and your vote no longer counts.
You may be afraid that the country will fall apart if someone steps in to change things back to benefitting the people of this nation instead of the very rich, but I’m not and many others are not afraid.
And we will keep fighting for what we believe in, and you can fight for what you believe in…but just remember who’s side the one’s making all the profit are on.

You're totally right man but you're probably wasting your breath...he's one of the older generation who are in complete denial

Do not expect people from that group to do anything useful or to even be critical of the powers that be...they won't

They'll keep waving their flag and praising the government right upto the point they are shoved into the back of an armoured militarised police van and driven off to the fema camps
 
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You're totally right man but you're probably wasting your breath...he's one of the older generation who are in complete denial

Do not expect people from that group to do anything useful or to even be critical of the powers that be...they won't

They'll keep waving their flag and praising the government right upto the point they are shoved into the back of an armoured militarised police van and driven off to the fema camps

Well, I trust the Baby Boomers about as far as I can throw them…all the bullshit about peace and love…then they turn around and show themselves to be the single most selfish generation in the history of the US.
I try not lump everyone together and I know that [MENTION=680]just me[/MENTION] is following what he believes to be right…but things have changed…bigger things need to change now.
 
Well, I trust the Baby Boomers about as far as I can throw them…all the bullshit about peace and love…then they turn around and show themselves to be the single most selfish generation in the history of the US.
I try not lump everyone together and I know that @just me is following what he believes to be right…but things have changed…bigger things need to change now.

I call them the 'me, me, me' generation

You know why they are in such denial? Cos it means they don't have to take any responsibility

They're gonna stick their fingers in their ears and say: 'la, la, la' and then pass on a world of shit to us

They are the people who voted 'no' in the recent referendum in my country over independance...but now our nationalist party has massively grown in response and we are going to push for devolved powers and push this thing through whether the older generation like it or not and frankly they can go fuck themselves
 
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I call them the 'me, me, me' generation

You know why they are in such denial? Cos it means they don't have to take any responsibility

They're gonna stick their fingers in their ears and say: 'la, la, la' and then pass on a world of shit to us

They are the people who voted 'no' in the recent referendum in my country over indpendance...but now our nationalist party has massively grown in response and we are going to push for devolved powers and push this thing through whether the older generation like it or not and frankly they can go fuck themselves
Yes, they got theirs…too bad you can’t have yours.
They benefitted from the most economically sound time in the US, with affordable college…hell, most of em, fucked around as hippies and experimented with drugs and what not, then were able to find a job that paid the bills….but that wasn’t enough…it was greed greed greed as they privatized and smashed worker protections…it’s all set up in their favor from the get-go without any regard to the subsequent generations to come.
 
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Yes, they got theirs…too bad you can’t have yours.
They benefitted from the most economically sound time in the US, with affordable college…hell, most of em, fucked around as hippies and experimented with drugs and what not, then were able to find a job that paid the bills….but that wasn’t enough…it was greed greed greed as they privatized and smashed worker protections…it’s all set up in their favor from the get-go without any regard to the subsequent generations to come.

It was all an illusion of prosperity built on debt and guess whose going to inherit that debt?
 
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What a load of claptrap!

There are many ways to structure a system and your own country has changed over time for example banking deregulation

To say for example that deregulation led to corrupt banking practices doesn't make you an 'idealist' it just means you are not a brainwashed eejit

And concerning criminals running amok....they already are and they are in your government and banking system

You need a reality check

Who are you but an instigator. Look at something other than banking if you want me to read it.
 
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Billions in military contracts may be up for grabs in the Pacific. Call the bank and get a loan.
 
Who are you but an instigator. Look at something other than banking if you want me to read it.

Its not for me to do that...it's for you to realise how banking affects the value of the dollar in your pocket or the cost of your mortgage or the cost of a loan and the health of the economy and it's for you to realise that the IRS was created at the same time as the central bank (federal reserve) so that the people behind both could bring your economy and your people to their knees

But if you want to look at some other stuff then look at this video of joe biden admiting what i've been saying on this forum for months: that the allies of the US eg saudia arabia and qatar have been fudning al qaeda and ISIS (the US has been too but biden won't admit that of course!)

[video=youtube;AqyCYKeO5BU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqyCYKeO5BU[/video]

And here is what the president of Argentina had to say about the US government in her recent speech at the UN (a brave woman):


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http://www.globalresearch.ca/argent...rism-and-the-western-financial-system/5407073

“Today you pretend making a coalition against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), but in fact you’re their allies,” Those are the frank words by Cristina Fernandez Kirchner, the Argentinian President, spoken in a calm and secure voice at the UN General Assembly last Friday, 3 October 2014.

Similarly, she referred to the western financial system as economic terrorism, as in vultures – the vulture funds that thanks to New York judge Griesa have put Argentina – a solvent country, willing and capable of paying their debt, in default. He ruled that the vulture funds, Griesa’s clients and paymasters, needed to be paid in full, i.e. 100%, equal to US$ 1.5 billion, when close to 93% of all creditors agreed on a restructured reimbursement rate of about 20%.
Without any international right to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign country, Griesa would allow the vultures reaping in a profit margin well in excess of 1,000%. — Paul Singer, king of the ‘vulture capitalists’, knows no merci. He is in bed with Wall Street and Griesa – and with whomever other financial hooligans who share his greedy endeavors. Greed is their prayer. It’s knocked around the world. Exploits poor nations, makes them poorer, and keeps them dependent on the powers of money, being well aware that the poor are too weak to defend themselves.
Except for Argentina. Her able President Cristina Fernandez, speaks not only for her country, when she talks about victims of economic and financial terrorism, but for all those African, Latin American and Asian countries which are oppressed by the killing boots of Wall Street and the IMF. It cannot be said often enough – the IMF is a mere extended arm of the US Treasury and the FED.
Vulture capitalism exerted by these usual villains and the European Central Bank, a mere puppet of Wall Street and led by a former Wall Street banker, are responsible for the economic collapse of the western economy. They have driven countries like Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain – and lately also Ukraine – into misery.
They have stolen their social safety nets, pensions, employment, housing, education, health care, water supply and other public infrastructure – by privatizing public capital for their private benefits. They could do so thanks to the connivance of corrupt leaders they first put in place with sham elections – or no elections at all.
Case in point is Greece, where the Parliament decided to dismiss the socialist Prime Minister George Papandreou, who attempted to launch a referendum in December 2011, asking the people whether they wanted the troika’s (IMF, ECB, European Commission) imposed second ‘rescue’ package of € 130 billion (after a first one on € 110 billion) that would drastically increase Greece’s sovereign debt and force literally a killer austerity program upon its people. At the onset of the manufactured crisis, in May 2008, Greece’s debt to GDP ratio was a manageable 105%. In 2014 the ratio is 175%.
Under the structural adjustment program social health care was basically abolished. Many cancer and other chronically ill patients were deprived of their free medical attendance, unemployed and destitute could not afford to pay full price for their medication and treatment – and quietly died.


Under extreme pressure from Germany and France – the infamous tandem Sarkozy / Merkel called Papandreou to meeting in Nice at the beginning of November 2011, literally ordering him to withdraw the referendum – or else. Papandreou went home, canceled the referendum on 3 November and resigned. He was promptly replaced by Parliament – without a public vote – by the neoliberal Lucas Papademos, former deputy head of the ECB and – a former Goldman Sachs executive, who allowed the dance of debt and destruction to continue.
Argentina would not allow such financial terrorism on its shores – not since they dared to counter the economically suffocating peso-dollar parity in 2001, allowing the country to start breathing and growing again; a highly distributive GDP growth allowing to cut poverty from above 60% in 2001to below 10% today.
The same escape from the western kleptomania was – and still is – open to Greece and all those southern European countries in the fangs of greed capitalism. But their leaders and finance ministers are goose stepping to the financial marching orders of Washington’s money masters, Wall Street, FED and IMF.
Ms. Fernandez did not mince her words. She also talked openly about western military terrorism, “You killed many innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan under the name of war against terrorism,” or as the new refrain goes – “Making war for Peace”. She referred to the West in general and to Washington in particular, for whom war and conflicts, weapons sales, is a means of economic survival, as the US economy depends to more than 50% on the military / security industrial complex and related industries and services.

Shamefully, many western leaders and representatives left the assembly hall when Ms. Fernandez spoke, of fear they may be associated with her views if they listened to her calling a spade a spade. Perhaps they feared the ridiculous western sanctions, if they don’t behave. It is sad to see spineless world leaders; so-called leaders (sic), who bend over backwards to please the powers that utterly exploit them, stealing their natural resources, putting their people and the environment in peril.
A terrorist is whoever does not conform to the western doctrine, whoever insists on national sovereignty – whoever defends their national interests over the voracious interference of Washington and its European puppets – and their killing bulldozer, NATO.
The UN should make it an obligation and expression of mutual respect that every country leader and representative attending the UN General Assembly must listen to all the speeches. Each country has a message to give – a message that in one way or another concerns all of us, as we are all connected as humans in a solidary union, regardless of political alliances.
The latest economic terrorism inflicted on Russia by the US supported Wall Street et al financial cabal is the down manipulation of the ruble vs the US dollar and other ‘western’ currencies. The ruble has lost 22% of its value since the beginning of 2014 and 15% in the last quarter alone. Call it ‘sanctions’ – if you will – for not bending to the political demands of Washington on Ukraine. The western MSM would like you to believe it has to do with the chaos and continuous murderous atrocities in Ukraine’s Donbass area, for which – of course – Russia is made the culprit, not Kiev’s gang of thugs, a Nazi government, created and funded by Obama and his western puppets.

Russia is now forced to buy dollars and Euros – what they least want and need – to stabilize her currency, the ruble. Buying dollars – playing even more into the sledgehammer of the empire – is certainly the last thing Russia wants to do. Currency manipulation is only possible due to the predatory US dollar system, where all international transactions have to be channeled through Wall Street and cleared through the privately owned BIS – Bank for International Settlements, whose owners are a similar lot of financial shenanigans as are those owning the FED. The expected outcome is a devalued ruble, shunned by investors.Little do they know that this usual western shortsightedness is but accelerating the process of Russia and China issuing a new combined currency, delinked form the dollar-euro fiat money and its SWIFT exchange system. In fact, it has already begun. The Central Bank of China has recently offered a hand to the EU, inviting the Euro as one of several currencies that will no longer need the western clearing system for transactions with China.President Fernandez puts the finger right on the wound when she refers to the entire western monetary system as vulture economics. She knows that such an economy is bound to falter and be replaced – gradually as may be – by one that is based on fairness, integrity and that respects nations’ sovereignty.Peter Koenig is an economist and former World Bank staff. He worked extensively around the world in the fields of environment and water resources. He writes regularly for Global Research, ICH, the Voice of Russia, now Ria Novosti, The Vineyard of The Saker Blog, and other internet sites. He is the author of Implosion – An Economic Thriller about War, Environmental Destruction and Corporate Greed – fiction based on facts and on 30 years of World Bank experience around the globe.
 
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Although we have a national health service here in the Uk the corporatocracy is dismantling it particularly with the current TTIP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership

[h=1]Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership[/h]
The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) also known as the Transatlantic Free Trade Area (TAFTA) is a proposed free trade agreement between the European Union and the United States. Proponents say the agreement would result in multilateral economic growth,[SUP][1][/SUP] while critics say it would increase corporate power and make it more difficult for governments to regulate markets for public benefit.[SUP][2][/SUP] The U.S. government considers the TTIP a companion agreement to the Trans-Pacific Partnership.[SUP][3][/SUP] After a proposed draft was leaked, in March 2014 the European Commission launched a public consultation on a limited set of clauses.
The TTIP free trade agreement could be finalised by the end of 2014


The NHS has also been sabotaged from within with too many funds given to managerial positions and not enough to frontline staff like nurses and doctors etc

There have also been corruptions where the big corporations and especially big pharma have bribed managers to buy goods for the NHS which are not the best or the best value