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Thought I would post this- saw it on my FB feed ... I dunno....I think it's a far stretch.

http://worldtruth.tv/mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/
MH-17 Was In Fact The ‘Lost’ Flight MH-370

When it was first announced that flight MH-370 disappeared without a trace, there had been voices suggesting that the same plane will be later used in a false flag operation.

Personally, I tried to ignore the speculations thinking that no secret agency could ever conduct such an insanely-obvious operation, expecting that the rest of the world is stupid enough to buy it.

Boy, was I was wrong!

It’s not only that the official MH17 story is filled with gaps, but there are also bizarre accounts and ‘coincidences’ that are impossible to ignore:

1. The alleged MH17 was the same plane model as MH-370

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he aircraft allegedly shot down over Shaktarsk is a Boeing 777-200, ID number M9-MRD.

The missing MH370 was the same model, 777-200, but with a different ID number M9-MRO.

Recent, “near conclusive” evidence reports that MH-370 (M9-MRO) was actually hijacked before it disappeared. This means that the hijackers could have safely landed the plane somewhere else.

The US military base Diego Garcia is conveniently located within flying distance of the spot where MH-370 disappeared from the radar.

One of the passengers on board MH-370, Phillip Wood, allegedly managed to send a photo from his iPhone, tracing back to the previously mentioned military base.

If the US secret services got possession of the MH-370 jet, then it was a child’s play for them to set it up for a false flag operation suiting their needs. After the story of a passenger jet having been shot down by pro-Russian separatists broke loose, Russia lost a lot of credibility and support due to the US propaganda machine.

2. The crashed plane had a different configuration of windows than MH17

Unfortunately for those who staged the false flag event, the MH17 plane had an extra window (bellow) next to the second right-side door, which MH370 did not — and neither did the wreckage of the airplane!

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Jim Stone brings more photographic evidence supporting the connection between the wreckage and flight MH-370:

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According to independent journalist Jim Stone, “It is important to note that MH370 [bellow] was new, and therefore never repainted. This is the way the flag ALWAYS looked on Flight 370, and it forever pegs the shoot down plane as flight 370.”

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“Next is flight MH17. Notice the flag position, and ALSO, that MH17 has an extra window on this side of the aircraft, TOTALLY BUSTING THE OFFICIAL STORY.” [1]

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So, what does it all mean?

The plane wreckage shown in the propaganda pictures doesn’t have the window configuration of MH17, whilst it matches the one of MH370.

The conclusion is obvious: the wreckage belongs to the ‘lost’ flight MH370.

3. Rebel leader describes the MH17 victims: rotten corpses, drained of blood

“A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off. (…) [People at the crash site]: ‘A significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,’ adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.” [2]

According to independent journalist Jim Stone:

“It is being said that a Dutch doctor who was at the scene within a day has released testimony that the bodies on the plane were rotten and dead days before the crash, which would corroborate what the military commander said and that evidence is there that they were also tortured before the crash. However, the translation from Dutch is very poor and I am working on secondary confirmation.”

This means that the bodies found at the crash site in Ukraine are probably the passengers of MH370.

4. ALL the videos were created before MH17 was allegedly shot down

“A look at the time stamps for the nine versions of the video that allegedly shows a conversation between Ukrainian anti-fascists and the Russian military and uploaded to what is said to be the Ukrainian Security Service (SSU) youtube account, indicating that all the videos were created before MH17 wrecked in the afternoon 2014-07-1.” [3]

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Remarkable unit with timestamps confirmed by the date stamp for when the videos were uploaded to a local server contained herein.

5. MH-17 propaganda picture doesn’t match the facts

According to the Daily Mail, Flight MH-17 was photographed by one of the passengers just before boarding, but the identification number doesn’t macth! MH-17′s ID number is 9M-MRD (Wikipedia):

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The ID of the plane in the propaganda picture is 9M-MRC (Daily Mail):

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6. Flight MH17 was cancelled, according to flight radar screen

Flight Radar-24 screen capture on the day following the crash (7/18) shows MH-17, (9M-MRD) as “canceled” on the date of the crash (7/17): [4]

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7. Invalid and pristine passports at the crash site

All the passports appearing in the propaganda video are in mint condition. They want us to believe that ALL passports have escaped undamaged after an airplane filled with fuel was shot down by a SAM missile — not to mention the 33,000 feet drop.

And that’s not all! Many of presented passports are clearly invalid: some have been ‘hole-punched’ in the upper left-hand corner, while others have been ‘clipped’ (triangular cut-out from right-hand center front cover) – making it impossible that any of these decommissioned passports could be used to travel internationally at the flight’s port of Departure in Amsterdam. [5]

[video=youtube;RkIEpuy4VV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkIEpuy4VV8[/video]

8. U.S. State Department Deputy admits: MH17 ‘evidence’ is based on YT clips & social media posts
In a testy exchange between AP reporter Matt Lee and U.S. State Department Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf, Lee virtually corners Harf into admitting that the “evidence” presented by the U.S. to blame Russian-backed rebels for the shoot down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 [now exposed as MH370] amounts to nothing more than YouTube videos and social media posts. [6]

[video=youtube;oQRvINebeok]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok[/video]

9. Award-winning reporter blows whistle:U.S. satellite images show Ukrainian troops shooting down the plane that was presented to us as MH17
Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 [now exposed as MH370].
“What I’ve been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms.” [7]

Not that I believe it, but I do think it's interesting to consider.
 
Thought I would post this- saw it on my FB feed ... I dunno....I think it's a far stretch.

http://worldtruth.tv/mh-17-was-in-fact-the-lost-flight-mh-370/


Not that I believe it, but I do think it's interesting to consider.

I know, I heard very similar theories about the time the plane was first shot down, there was the "Gee, how much bad luck could one airline have? Wait..." moment for sure.

Still makes me wonder what the hell could've happened to the passengers, of either flight, what was that movie in which they send a flight to mars and its a hoax and because the shuttle is destroyed on re-entry they decide they are gonna kill or disappear the crew, who were in on the hoax, and they all try to escape? Its Capricorn 3 or something like that I think.

I thought about that at the time of the conspiracy theorising about 9/11 flights, either that passengers had been disappeared after providing evidence via phone calls to others that they were aboard certain flights. Sinister as all hell and a bit of an indictment of governments that its persuasive or plausible at all. They definitely have lost the trust.

Now, how the fuck are the illuminati involved in all this? :D :D :D
 
I know, I heard very similar theories about the time the plane was first shot down, there was the "Gee, how much bad luck could one airline have? Wait..." moment for sure.

Still makes me wonder what the hell could've happened to the passengers, of either flight, what was that movie in which they send a flight to mars and its a hoax and because the shuttle is destroyed on re-entry they decide they are gonna kill or disappear the crew, who were in on the hoax, and they all try to escape? Its Capricorn 3 or something like that I think.

I thought about that at the time of the conspiracy theorising about 9/11 flights, either that passengers had been disappeared after providing evidence via phone calls to others that they were aboard certain flights. Sinister as all hell and a bit of an indictment of governments that its persuasive or plausible at all. They definitely have lost the trust.

Now, how the fuck are the illuminati involved in all this? :D :D :D

The 'illuminati' are really just the priests of matter

Money is the foundation stone of the world of matter so the illuminati are the people controlling the money

So when people speak about the 'illuminati' they are really speaking about the international bankers who operate out of the Bank for International Settlements

In occult terms they are a continuation of the old babylonian mystery schools

Here is a guy on the US news using the term 'illuminati' to mean the banking cartel behind the federal reserve:

[video=youtube;ZdixhDK_bqo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdixhDK_bqo[/video]
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ellite-images-showing-fighter-jet-attack.html

[h=1]s this the moment MH17 was shot down as it flew over Ukraine? Russian state broadcaster produces 'satellite images' showing alleged fighter jet attack[/h]
  • 'Leaked' images show a missile streaking towards the MH17 flight
  • Russian experts said Boeing was shot down by a Ukrainian warplane
  • Kremlin-owned channel suggested a State crime was committed
  • It was claimed that the space pictures were from a British or US satellite

Russian experts have claimed Malaysian Boeing MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian warplane and not a ground to air missile.
This follows the release of 'leaked' satellite images which show a missile streaking towards the passenger plane, produced tonight by Russia's main state broadcaster.
It was claimed that the space pictures were from a British or US satellite.
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Russian Channel 1 has released satellite images which suggest Malaysian Boeing MH17 (top of picture) was shot down by a Ukrainian warplane (bottom left)

The flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was travelling over the conflict-hit region when it disappeared from radar.
A total of 283 passengers, including 80 children, and 15 crew members were killed.

TV presenter Mikhail Leontiev claimed that the mysterious source who provided the images concluded they showed 'how a Mig-29 fighter plane destroys the Boeing passenger plane'.
The West has repeatedly suggested the plane was shot down by pro-Moscow rebels using a Russian-made BUK missile system.
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It was claimed that the mysterious source who provided the images concluded they showed 'how a Mig-29 fighter plane (pictured) destroys the Boeing passenger plane'


 
Really quite amazing in this day and age for an entire plane to go missing. Anyone remember that movie Millennium? No? Well maybe because it was horrible. None the less makes me think of it.
 
Really quite amazing in this day and age for an entire plane to go missing. Anyone remember that movie Millennium? No? Well maybe because it was horrible. None the less makes me think of it.

This plane didn't go missing, the wreckage is strewn over ukraine and many experts and much evidence is pointing to the US backed Ukrainina government being the people who shot it down

The western countries are not releasing the black box info despite russia asking them to
 
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[h=2]Some online theorists believe AirAsia crash was predicted last year, others say plane was shot down[/h]LAST UPDATED AT 15:15 ON MON 5 JAN 2015
SEE RELATED:
[h=3]MH370 conspiracy theories: what happened to the missing plane?[/h]

[h=3]Flight MH17: Conspiracy theories emerge over fate of downed plane[/h]

[h=3]AirAsia QZ8501: 'Pings' detected near submerged wreckage[/h]



As Indonesian search teams resume their hunt in the Java Sea for the black box flight recorders from AirAsia flight QZ8501, conspiracy theories about what may have caused the passenger plane to crash have begun surfacing on the internet.
Here are some of the more interesting and unusual explanations that have emerged so far:
[h=5]The crash was predicted[/h]A post last December on the online Chinese message board Tian YA by a user nicknamed Landlord has become the subject of intense interest among some internet users, who believe that it predicts the crash of the QZ8501.
On 15 December, Landlord wrote: "A sinister group that hijacked the Malaysia Airlines MH370 and shot down the MH17, has left the world's sixth-largest airline in a state of collapse. Now, the group has targeted AirAsia... Given the power and viciousness of this group, I would suggest that all Chinese passengers keep away from AirAsia. Do not become a victim of another MH370."


Some conspiracy theorists suggest that Landlord could be a member of the Chinese intelligence agency. Others say he may have been somehow involved in the incident.
[h=5]QZ8501 was shot down[/h]Alexandra Bruce, writing for conspiracy site Forbidden Knowledge TV is unconvinced by the suggestion that the QZ8501 simply crashed. She believes that the images of the wreckage suggest that the plane "was hit by a surface-to-air missile".
Others on the site agree. One commenter below her post suggests that if you believe that the truth has not been told about the two disasters involving Malaysia Airlines in 2014 then there is no way that the AirAsia incident can be regarded as an accident.
[h=5]Remote control was used[/h]According to IlluminatiWatcher, external controls may have brought the plane down. Both the MH370 and the QZ8501 were "fly-by-wires" planes, IlluminatiWatcher says, meaning "they have an electronic flight control system that can override the manual controls of the pilot... This means that flight controls can be programmed and/or perhaps controlled remotely."
It is therefore credible that both planes were taken down by a "nefarious group". IlluminatiWatcher points, unsurprisingly, to the Illuminati. Or perhaps terrorists.
[h=5]The QZ8501 is still missing[/h]Beforeitsnews.com suggests that the wreckage that has been discovered in the Java Sea is not that of the QZ8501. The site points out that the colours of the submerged wreckage are inconsistent with AirAsia's red and white paint scheme.
[h=5]Professional explanations[/h]For a more qualified perspective, discussions on the various professional pilot forums can often be helpful. The professional pilots rumour network offers a range of plausible theories, mostly centred around the poor weather conditions over the Java Sea at the time the plane went missing












: http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news...ries-what-happened-to-the-plane#ixzz3OLXG1fn0
 
I'll go with 'plausible theories' for 500, please.

I was thinking about the news media's dissertations on the lack of professionalism in the Indonesian Air industry and how it seems to clearly disprove the many conspiracy theorists but then it struck me, this latest crash only proves all the conspiratorial skepticism.
 
Really quite amazing in this day and age for an entire plane to go missing. Anyone remember that movie Millennium? No? Well maybe because it was horrible. None the less makes me think of it.

Is that the one with the time travel storyline and people being taken from doomed flights?
 

I looked it up on Amazon, its cheap to buy but I really wanted an instant vid to watch, I vaguely remember it because I like flicks with Kris Kerstopherson in them but I cant remember it in any detail.