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Is the Ku Klux Klan an American tradition?

Geeze, can anyone believe that shit? I did not know what I was unleashing.

Then you're not all that bright ;)
 
Then you're not all that bright ;)

I was prepared for the whole "an example of secret societies" bit but not what followed.

It reminds me of that episode of Voyager when seventh of nine gets overwhelmed by information and concludes that EVERYONE is secretly in league with the borg and EVERYTHING can be traced back to the borg.
 
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! Unleash the truth!

https://deanhenderson.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/the-illumination-merchants/

[h=1]The Illumination Merchants[/h] Posted by Dean Henderson ⋅ July 1, 2012 ⋅ 7 Comments
Filed Under Big Oil & Their Bankers, BP Amoco, Chevron Texaco, Dean Henderson, Exxon Mobil, four horsemen, Illuminati, Left Hook, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Royal Dutch/Shell, The Grateful Unrich
(Excerpted from Big Oil & Their Bankers…Chapter 7: Four Horsemen)
By the late 1800’s John D. Rockefeller had become popularly known as “the Illumination Merchant”, during a time when oil was powering the reading lamps of every American household. [1]
Rockefeller’s nickname also alluded to his membership in a grand secret society of global elites known as the Illuminati. Rockefeller had figured out that it was the refining of oil into various end products and not actual crude production which held the key to control of the industry.
By 1895 his Standard Oil Company owned 95% of all refineries in the US while expanding operations overseas. Summing up his attitude towards his new oil monopoly, Rockefeller once stated, “The day of combination is here to stay. Individualism is gone never to return”.
Meanwhile, across the Atlantic the British du Reuter family plunged into the oil business in Iran via its Anglo-Persian Oil Company. The Swedish Nobel and French Rothschild families discovered oil in Russia through their Far East Trading Company, which later combined with Oppenheimer family interests to become Shell Oil.
The Dutch House of Orange joined forces with the British House of Windsor in the Dutch East Indies to launch Royal Dutch Petroleum. The Rothschilds and the European monarchs were Illuminated leaders of the Freemason movement in the Old World.
Freemasonry was derived from the Knights Templar whose inner circle, the Priory of Sion, claim to be guardians of the bloodline of Jesus Christ (Sangreal) which they believe is carried forth by the Merovingan family, French royals who ruled that country from the 5th century until they were vanquished by French revolutionaries. [2]
The Priory of Sion most likely wrote the sinister Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion. Freemasonry and the Knights Templar are highly secretive, organized in a pyramidal and compartmentalized fashion much like the CIA, which recruits heavily from these Brotherhoods.
There are thirty-three degrees in Freemasonry. To achieve advancement to one higher degree, members are asked to spit on a cross. Those who refuse are congratulated, while those who accept are advanced to the next level because they did what they were told. Once a person reaches the 33rd Degree, which very few do, the person is considered illuminated and hence becomes a member of the Illuminati.
According to many researchers of the Illuminati, their goal is to restore monarchies around the world, culminating in the crowning of a Merovingan bloodline World King who will rule over a New World Order dominated by a handful of royal and banking families, enforcing government by decree and employing a single world electronic currency implanted in every human being.
The Illuminati originates from ancient secret societies beginning with the Guardians of Light in Atlantis, the Sumerian Brotherhood of the Snake and the Egyptian Mystery Schools, who suppressed spiritual truths such as mankind’s true origins and one’s ability to self-heal from the masses. These self-professed Princes of Darkness, who may be hybrids of an alien race known as Annunaki, wish to rid Earthlings of their spiritual earthly essence and powers, making it easier to set up global dictatorship.
In 1400 BC Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaton built a Brotherhood Temple in the shape of a cross at El-Amarna, Egypt. Here he established the first Mystery School, which soon multiplied in Babylon and elsewhere. Human sacrifice and mind control were common practice at the schools, which employed initiation rites identical to those of modern Freemasonry. The “Great Work of Ages”, which Freemasons talk of today, is synonymous with world domination and the takeover of the human mind. [3]
Freemasonry is the largest modern-day extension of the Brotherhood. Colonel Albert Pike, former Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Freemasonry in America describes the secretive group as, “The Custodian and depository of the great philosophical and religious truths unknown to the world at large and handed down from age to age by an unbroken current of tradition, embodied in symbols, emblems and allegories.”
Every US President since FDR has been a 33rd Degree Illuminated Mason, except Ronald Reagan, who was given the honorary title, John F. Kennedy, who was assassinated, and Barrack Obama.
The Italian mafia was founded by Guiseppe Mazzini, the 33rd Degree Illuminati Grand Master Mason of the P-2 Lodge. P-2 is close to the Vatican Bank, ran Banca Nacionale de Lavoro and funded South America’s fascist drug-ridden governments of the 70’s. [4]
Pike brought Freemasonry to America at Charleston, SC in the 1870’s. His book Morals and Dogma serves as a bible for US Freemasons today. In the book Pike proclaims the Satanist bent of Freemasonry espousing, “The Masonic Religion should be by all of us initiates in the High Degrees maintained in the purity of the Luciferic Doctrine”. Pike put his dark side to work, presiding over the Western expansion and genocide of Native American people. Pike also founded the Ku Klux Klan.
Lower level initiates don’t know of this darker side of Masonry and spend their time planning circuses and parades, ostensibly to divert people’s attention from Illuminati plans for global dictatorship. The Masons started the first insurance firm in the US called Woodman’s. The very concept of insurance counts on fear, death and destruction and is nothing more than a mob-style protection racket, with proceeds going into the guns for drugs trade via the Bermuda subsidiaries that virtually all insurance firms have.
The most corruptible men advance to the higher degrees of Masonry, where they become aware of the Freemason role in the Great Work of Ages or New World Order. The Masons swear blood oaths to secrecy. An initiate into the 1st Degree pledges, “binding myself under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by the roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea…”. [5]
The oaths get increasingly morbid as a Mason climbs the degree ladder. The British Crown officially warrants every Freemason Lodge in the world. Whether they know it or not, every initiated Freemason in the world pledges loyalty to the British Crown.
Many of America’s founding fathers were Freemasons including Alexander Hamilton, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin. Washington apparently began to see the dark side of the group. He wrote in 1782, “It was not my intention to doubt that the Illuminati…had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than am I”. [6]
Both Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams wrote essays warning of the Freemasons, who they knew wanted to return America to British Crown control. In the 1830’s an American Anti-Mason Party sprang forth after a New York State Senate investigation revealed that powerful Masons controlled the US government. Candidates won several state and local elections. The Anti-Masons were eventually absorbed into the Whig Party.
The Illuminati know that energy is the key to global hegemony. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Trust began illuminating the New World with funding from Kuhn Loeb and Rothschild banking families. While the Rockefellers worked the American side of the energy matrix, the Rothschilds consolidated their control over Old World oil resources.
By 1892 Shell Oil, under the direction of Marcus Samuel, began shipping South Sea crude through the new Suez Canal to supply Europe’s factories. Shell took its name from the abundance of seashells which lined the shores of the Dutch-controlled archipelago that is now Indonesia. The Samuel family controls London’s biggest merchant bank Hill Samuel, along with the trading house Samuel Montagu. In 1903 the Nobel and Rothschild’s Far East Trading, which was financed by King Wilhelm III, combined with Samuel and Oppenheimer’s Shell Oil to form the Asiatic Petroleum Company.
In 1927 Royal Dutch Petroleum discovered oil at Seria off the coast of Brunei, whose Sultan would become the world’s richest man as a result of his loyalty to Royal Dutch. The Dutch and British monarchs who control Royal Dutch merged their company with the Oppenheimer and Samuel’s Shell Oil and Nobel and Rothschild’s Far East Trading. Royal Dutch/Shell was born. [7] Queen Juliana of the Dutch House of Orange and Lord Victor Rothschild are the two largest shareholders of Royal Dutch/Shell.
In 1872 Baron Julius du Reuter was granted his 50-year concession in Iran. In 1914 the British government took control of his Anglo-Persian Company renamed it British Petroleum. Britain’s House of Windsor controls a large stake in BP Amoco. The Kuwaiti monarchy owns 9.5%.
In 1906 the US government ordered the dissolution of the Standard Oil Trust, charging that Standard had violated the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. On May 15, 1911 the US Supreme Court declared, “Seven men and a corporate machine have conspired against their fellow citizens. For the safety of the Republic we now decree that this dangerous conspiracy must be ended by November 15th”. [8] The breakup of Standard Oil increased the wealth of the Rockefeller family who retained 25% interest in each new company.
Standard Oil NY merged with Vacuum Oil to form Socony-Vacuum which became Mobil in 1966. Standard Oil IN joined with Standard Oil NE and Standard Oil KS and in 1985 became Amoco. In 1972 Standard Oil of NJ became Exxon. In 1984 Standard Oil CA joined with Standard Oil KY to become Chevron. Standard Oil OH (Sohio) retained the Standard brand until bought by BP, which also bought trust baby Atlantic Richfield (ARCO).
The Rockefellers created powerful foundations to shield their oil billions from taxation, while steering social, political and economic policy. Their philanthropic endeavors included the General Education Board, the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, the University of Chicago, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Lincoln School, where Rockefeller children are educated.
The Rockefellers are big financiers of the eugenics movement which spawned Hitler. Nazi scientists sought a genetically-superior race. Anatomy textbooks used at US universities are based on this Nazi science. DNA research is the next frontier down this slippery slope. The idea is to convince people that they are genetically flawed and must be “repaired” by the Rockefeller pharmaceutical/medical monopoly.
In 1912 railroad magnate Edward Harriman’s widow sold her stake in Morgan Guaranty Bank to J.P. Morgan. She joined Rockefeller in funding a eugenics research lab at Cold Spring Harbor, NY. It was the Harrimans who gave George Walker and Prescott Bush their starts in investment banking and industry.
That same year the First International Congress of Eugenics was convened in London with Winston Churchill presiding. In 1932 the conference was held in New York. Hamburg-Amerika Shipping Line, owned by George Walker and Prescott Bush, brought the German contingent to the gene-fest. One member of the German delegation was Dr. Ernst Rudin of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Genealogy in Berlin. He was unanimously elected president for his work in founding the German Society of Race Hygiene, a forerunner to Hitler’s race institutes. [9]
By 1920 Exxon, BP and Royal Dutch/Shell dominated the world’s booming oil business, with the Rockefeller and Rothschild families and the British and Dutch royals owning the brunt of stock in the Horsemen. [10]
Two other Rockefeller babies, Mobil and Chevron, weren’t far behind the Big Three. The Texas Murchison family, themselves patronized by the Rockefellers, controlled Texaco, while the Mellon family, with its own ties to the Rockefeller fortune, controlled Gulf Oil.
In 1984 the Gulf was swooped up by Chevron. Amoco made a run at replacing Gulf as the 7th Sister but BP swallowed it, creating BP Amoco. In 1999 Exxon and Mobil, who always worked closely, merged in a $75 billion monster deal creating Exxon Mobil. A year later Chevron and Texaco- also historically joined at the hip- officially combined to create Chevron Texaco.
Four Horsemen rode on.
[1] The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power. Daniel Yergin. Simon & Schuster. New York. 1991.
[2] The Robot’s Rebellion: The Story of Spiritual Renaissance. David Icke. Gateway Books. Bath, UK. 1994. p.94
[3] Ibid. p.36
[4] “Lecture by John Ross”. War & Peace Report. Free Speech TV. Boulder, CO 1-1-02
[5] Rule by Secrecy: The Hidden History that Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons and the Great Pyramids. Jim Marrs. HarperCollins Publishers. New York. 2000. p.218
[6] Ibid. p.203
[7] “History of Royal Dutch/Shell Group of Companies”. Shell Review Annual Report. 1992
[8] Marrs. p.46
[9] Ibid. p.48
[10] Webs of Power: International Cartels and the World Economy. Kurt Rudolf Mirow and Harry Maurer. Houghton, Mifflin Company Boston. 1982. p.69
Dean Henderson is the author of five books: Big Oil & Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network, The Grateful Unrich: Revolution in 50 Countries, Das Kartell der Federal Reserve, Stickin’ it to the Matrix & The Federal Reserve Cartel. You can subscribe free to his weekly Left Hook column @ www.deanhenderson.wordpress.com
 
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[MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION] You are a small scared man that goes out of his way to spread disinformation. You are part of the problem not the solution. I now look for a way to block my having to see your BS posts.
 
@muir You are a small scared man that goes out of his way to spread disinformation. You are part of the problem not the solution. I now look for a way to block my having to see your BS posts.

I'm not small

I'd say any fear i feel is proportionate to the threat

I'd say that the spreading of information leading to a greater understanding of the secret society network is very much in the public interest

....so i disagree with everything you've said there

if you don't want to see my posts then just ignore them or provide proof to counter what i'm saying if you think i'm wrong

The links between the KKK and the masons is undeniable though. If however you feel that the masons have a particular function and you think they are being missrepresented then perhaps you could explain things how you see them?
 
MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPP.

They are not an American tradition. They are a sick group that represents oppression and hatred in American history. They don't deserve to be celebrated nor talked about.
 
MAKE IT STOPPPPPPPPPP.

They are not an American tradition. They are a sick group that represents oppression and hatred in American history. They don't deserve to be celebrated nor talked about.

The way to make it stop is to see through them. expose them and withdraw support from them

There was a guy in...i think it was the 1960's...and he infiltrated the KKK. he learned their grips, passwords and handshakes and kept making them public

he also ridiculed them and they lost a lot of credibility through that process

But basically he was pouring light on them

All these guys whether they are KKK, freemasons, corrupt bankers and politicans, mafia, vatican child abusers, occultists etc they all need secrecy to carry out the things they want to carry out; if people pour light on them they can't operate

Although its unpleasant to face upto a lot of these nefarious goings on, if we pull it out into the open these guys lose their power
 
Ahhh well at the risk of sounding patronising...that's because you are only looking at the surface of things

You look only at the question in the OP while i look at every comment and every thread written and made by the threadstarter and i develop an impression in my mind of what they truely stand for and then i answer to that

Because the OP question is really just one tiny piece of a much larger picture.....there is a dialogue going on here at a level that you are not yet perceiving

reading that, it almost seems as though you might make decisions to "target" particular forum members on the basis of what you believe their own personal beliefs could be.
 
reading that, it almost seems as though you might make decisions to "target" particular forum members on the basis of what you believe their own personal beliefs could be.

Not at all

lark and i understand each other; we have posted in each others threads and discussed the same issues repeatedly in other peopls threads (i was discussing these things before lark arrived though)

if you want all the back story then you'd need to look at our various debates as well as comments written by PM and on peoples walls

I'm just being honest and up front about it but its all there to see (except the PM stuff of course)

We've been discussing and debating since 2011 over a variety of interlocking issues

I'm just letting you know that there is a wider ideological debate going on

if you are curious about the nature of that then perhaps you could ask Lark what he means when he says he is a 'socialist'?

P.S what did you think of the stuff i posted in this thread? Does it interest you at all? As it is all relevant to the thread (determining how traditional the KKK is because freemasonry is very traditional in the sense that from your very first president the freemasons have been prominant in your countries politics...so by linking the KKK and freemasonry it plugs it into the current politcial foundations of the US)

That's the 3rd time you have recently come into a thread i'm posting in and then singled me out...i hope you are not 'targeting' me?
 
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The way to make it stop is to see through them. expose them and withdraw support from them

Uhhhh....wtf? I don't know where you're from but in the US it is well established that the KKK is a radical and racist group that is not supported in mainstream America. Hell, they're hardly even talked about anymore unless you venture into places like Southern Idaho or the Midwest.
 
Uhhhh....wtf? I don't know where you're from but in the US it is well established that the KKK is a radical and racist group that is not supported in mainstream America. Hell, they're hardly even talked about anymore unless you venture into places like Southern Idaho or the Midwest.

It is a tentacle of an octopus

Another tentacle of the same beast would be freemasonry

When you follow many of these organisations up their pyramidal structure you find that they all merge at the top

The KKK was such a well recognised group in the US that the film maker W D griffith actually made one of the earliest Hollywood motion pictures called 'the birth of a nation' in which the KKK are depicted as heros in 1915

This was 100 years ago and over that century the KKK have lost that mainstream appeal...but they have in the past had a large support base

They also have strong ties to freemasonry which still has a large member base in the US
 
The kkk is just another secret club that plays make believe in fantasies like dragons and magic. It's just hillbilly D&D.
 
The kkk is just another secret club that plays make believe in fantasies like dragons and magic. It's just hillbilly D&D.

There's nothing fantastical about being dragged behind a truck until you're dead as was common in the lynchings carried out by the KKK

Also there is significance to the reptillian symbology of the title 'grand dragon'. The freemasons often have snakes on their apron belt buckles and they have 'grand masters'

The 'wizard' title also has significance because qabalah which is at the core of freemasonry is the foundation of the western magickal tradition

It's all about magick higher up the pyramid

Sounds stupid at the ground floor but higher up there is some serious shit going on

reptillian crest of the banking district known as the city of london through which the illuminati bankers operate (also contains knights templar flag):

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Alfa romeo

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city of london crest

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KGC
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Knights Templar

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KKK

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KKK:

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York rite

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Jota:

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Corporate vodafone

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Highlander bearing the burning cross

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Church of scotland...burning bush over cross in vesica pisces

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House Targarean

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The temple in the square mile (london):

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the house of vere:

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the duchy of angiers:

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Note in many of these the multi pointed star...this is scared geometry...the fruit of life and metatrons cube

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Vlad tepis member of....

The soveriegn roman order of the dragon:

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Descendant of vlads queen elizabeth dressed in the dress of the Order of the garter:

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jesuit fiery cross

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Madonna (like a virgin)

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Catholic holy week in spain:

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Royal crest:

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US mission badges:

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There's nothing fantastical about being dragged behind a truck until you're dead as was common in the lynchings carried out by the KKK

There is if you are killing the 'enemy'.
 
http://www.thejournal.ie/klu-klux-klan-in-modern-america-1414691-Apr2014/?utm_source=facebook_short

Is the KKK an American tradition or a historical abberation from American traditions? How should a free society respond to members who hold views and opinions which appear anathema?
American history/traditions are not an area I have much knowledge in, but it seems that there are two contradictory things going on:
1. America seems to be a fundamentally diverse nation with many foundational cultures: English, Spanish, Native, African, French, etc.
2. America seems to have had longstanding groups at odds with this diversity being given a basically equal footing.

Perhaps the American tradition fundamentally includes contradictory elements - which requires both diversity and rejection of that diversity at the same time.
 
Not at all

lark and i understand each other; we have posted in each others threads and discussed the same issues repeatedly in other peopls threads (i was discussing these things before lark arrived though)

if you want all the back story then you'd need to look at our various debates as well as comments written by PM and on peoples walls

I'm just being honest and up front about it but its all there to see (except the PM stuff of course)

We've been discussing and debating since 2011 over a variety of interlocking issues

I'm just letting you know that there is a wider ideological debate going on

if you are curious about the nature of that then perhaps you could ask Lark what he means when he says he is a 'socialist'?

P.S what did you think of the stuff i posted in this thread? Does it interest you at all? As it is all relevant to the thread (determining how traditional the KKK is because freemasonry is very traditional in the sense that from your very first president the freemasons have been prominant in your countries politics...so by linking the KKK and freemasonry it plugs it into the current politcial foundations of the US)

That's the 3rd time you have recently come into a thread i'm posting in and then singled me out...i hope you are not 'targeting' me?

i dont care about the nature of your relationship with Lark and in any case i was not thinking of your interactions with that member.

i do not live in the US and have spent the entirety of my life living on another continent. and no, the stuff you posted in the thread does not interest me. apart from the fact that it is entirely removed from my own personal career interests, the connections made within that material seem tenuous and even bizarre to me, and the style of referencing seems pseudoscholarly.

the effect of your endless walls of text, which are so lengthy as to require multiple posts, does not seem informative or constructive. these walls of text are not conducive to good debate, because they contain far too many points for any one poster to respond to meaningfully. they seem to short-circuit meaningful debate by inundating other members with overwhelming quantities of theoretical material concerning conspiracies, clearly related to your own personal political beliefs, that is impossible to meaningfully negotiate at the level of a respectful but friendly and informal internet forum debate. these walls of text seem to completely derail debates that are happening, and i dont see why you cant just start other threads about these topics that interest you so much.

i am absolutely not interested in asking Lark about what his own personal beliefs about socialism are and i think the nature of his own beliefs is ridiculously off topic in regards to this thread, hopelessly and blatantly irrelevant, and this is what i was referring to by your "targeting" of particular members. you are zeroing in on the beliefs of members in a way that is systematic and personal to those members. i have quoted your posts repeatedly these times because i continually notice that the way you respond to debates on threads, by formulating theories of the personal beliefs of members, and harrassing them with personal questions about their beliefs and the cultural or ideological positioning of their identities, is not only terribly bad debating form, constituting ad hominem argument fallacy, but seems like personal bullying to me. it seems increasingly obvious to me that those members regard the connections you make with ideas they posted about as even completely irrelevant to their own beliefs as identified by themselves. i have trouble understanding why you seem to believe that interrogating individuals over the precise nature of their personal beliefs is making the world a better place, or how it is even just making the forum a better place. it seems purely disruptive.