Yes, upper class white women did live like royalty, and have often had it a lot better than lower class and minority women. But just because you live in a fancy house, and have money, doesn't mean you're living a life of freedom.
That goes both ways....who says the men felt any better than the women did?
The idea that women have power because they're influencing their husbands is just as disempowering as saying all feminists want a penis.
Woah don't play the penis card here...i haven't
I'm tryign to make a point that Farrell is making
He is asking us to think outside the box in terms of how we define power
So what he has found is that women when they earn a certain amount of money tend to then put the brakes on their careers in order to get a better balance from life for example balancing work with family, exercise, interests, sprituality whatever
Men are more likely to focus on work.
So which one is more empowered? Which is being smarter out of the two? The women are
So lets say that a man in history was coming home to his wife who then influenced him he would then have to go out and do whatever job that was his occupation. The woman dealt with the boredom and limitations of managing the household and the man dealt with the unpleasantness of whatever job he was doing
Before the industrial revolution that would most likely involve back breaking labour on the land. After the industrial revolution it would likely involve back breaking work in a factory or down the pit...what a great life!
So you need to keep things in perspective....think about what it is that most men were doing with their so called 'freedom'. Most men were every bit as trapped by the system as women were and for most of history there has been very little social mobility
The issue is why can't a woman have direct and open power and influence? Why is it always a frontman, and not a frontwoman?
I'm not saying she can't
I'm just saying that women shouldn't have this view that they have been oppressed for centuries whislt men have been frollicking free in fields of clover livign the good life in the land of cockaigne....they weren't....men were doing shitty work all day long, coming home for a meal and a smoke of their pipe before going into bed and doing the same again the next day. They might get a rest on sunday when they put on their fine clothes and went to church
Men have only been exposed to more risk, because women haven't been allowed to serve in the same positions of power. I'm not saying that those positions haven't limited the life of men, what I'm saying is that women haven't been allowed to be in those positions. Men have had the opportunity to choose that path- and historically women haven't had that ability.
No men didn't have the freedom to choose their path
For most of history people have grown up within miles of their birth place doing the same job for life. They would probably do the same job as their father who would help them into the workplace or they might serve an apprenticeship under him of some sort
Guys were not living in a land of opportunity
Jees...men have had a shitty time of it throughout history....FAR HARDER than women....it should be us complaining!
Who ploughed the fields? Who fought the wars? Who brought in the harvest? You think all that shit was easy?
If women were allowed to work during those times, they would have also worked in terrible conditions. This is more of a classist issue, rather than gender.
Not just women but children too. Child labour was used extensively. If you were a boy you might have been shoved up chimneys to clean them
Yes it was a class issue and now i feel we are moving closer to the REAL issue
If the saying that shit rolls down hill is true and we are talking about a class issue then logically we can go up the pyramid to see who is at the top of it and therefore who is dumping all the shit over the rest of society...THEY ARE THE POWER TO BE RESISTED not the men who were trapped working the fields and factories
So women shouldn't voice their opinions about sexism? The other perspective is that when one disenfranchised group speaks up, it empowers other groups to do the same. Feminism is part of a broader school which seeks empowerment and equality for all. Seeking out equality is not taking away from another group.
No that's not really what is happening
If you follow the money that has been given to these various groups as funding we find that powerful men are fudning them and the reason they are doing this is to breakdown the fabric of society so that they can create a new one
I think rather than women talking about sexism i think they should take a look at the system itself and try to see how it has enslaved all of us
If men think that women who want equality is taking away their rights as men, then there is something wrong.
No men don't think that women want equality.....men think women want to takeover
