Is Feminism Outdated?
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I think the idea of feminism is great, but I've found that the leading feminists are often middle to upper class white women, who have university educations. Yes, they can speak about sexism, and the misogyny that happens daily, but that is merely one female voice. What about the female of minority who lives in poverty, and faces sexism, racism, and classism daily? The strength of feminism is that it stands for the empowerment of those who are oppressed by the upper class while male lineage of power. The weakness of feminism is that it is often backed by upper class white women in power.
I am for equality for everyone - regardless of sex, sexuality, race, age, SES....if you want to call it feminism, that's okay, but it's more than just equality between men and women.
I am for equality for everyone - regardless of sex, sexuality, race, age, SES....if you want to call it feminism, that's okay, but it's more than just equality between men and women.
I would like people to realize that men and women aren't the same. Striving for equality in this is kind of awkward when we (both men and women) allow or make it easier for women to do something, but at the same time enforce double standards carried on by gender roles. It is going to take a long time before we figure this out, and make things better.
There is also the issue with the perception of feminism. On one hand we have a woman who wants to be empowered with her femininity, on the other, a woman empowered with her masculinity. Do we eliminate gender roles, and become equal on all fronts, or do we recognize that we aren't the same? There are self-proclaimed feminists who see it both ways, and some who are simply misandrists. It's a misunderstood topic to most. It's difficult to move forward when you have several diverging paths of perception.
There is also the issue with the perception of feminism. On one hand we have a woman who wants to be empowered with her femininity, on the other, a woman empowered with her masculinity. Do we eliminate gender roles, and become equal on all fronts, or do we recognize that we aren't the same? There are self-proclaimed feminists who see it both ways, and some who are simply misandrists. It's a misunderstood topic to most. It's difficult to move forward when you have several diverging paths of perception.
Are you trolling or do you not pay attention to the news in regards to women's rights..?
I can recognize that there is a thread of feminism that is simply searching for safety/cooperation/respect for and between both genders. However feminism suffers from a marketing mishap in that 1. It is named in favor of one sex which leads to animosity and 2. The English language doesn't support this line of thinking without being very wordy and specific - which is fine but rare to find both party's engaged in the behavior.
I also suspect there is a Cold War approach in the presentation of feminism in the political arena in that they will present something very horrible like castrate all men and then concede to something like "fine we will simply accept equal pay".
For me feminism isn't worth my time but it's extreme supporters are always there to give me a laugh at their antics.
I also suspect there is a Cold War approach in the presentation of feminism in the political arena in that they will present something very horrible like castrate all men and then concede to something like "fine we will simply accept equal pay".
For me feminism isn't worth my time but it's extreme supporters are always there to give me a laugh at their antics.
Wow! Very well said! I think I agree with this 100% and could probably do so in an insanely long convoluted post, so I'm glad [MENTION=5511]o_q[/MENTION] did it so concisely!
I also think it's true that it's going to take a long time before we figure it all out. But figuring out what "feminism" means beyond helping to figure this out is complicated by social media (and, to a degree, mainstream media) misusing the term.
To the original question: I have seen and still see a lot of posts on the topic, but I tend to subscribe to progressive groups where it is discussed a little more openly and deeply then it probably is in the public forum. Feminism is not outdated and is not moving towards being outdated in any way, but there's a lot of effort by Feminists to clarify what they mean, and to cut out the misinformation that has run rampant.
No, feminism is not outdated because feminism does not revolve around the United States, but the entire world. There are many feminists sticking up for girls and women who have had no education due to religious practices and strict patriarchal societies - for example Malala Yousafzai.
In the United States, while many women are from the middle-upper class, they are speaking for everyone - women in the future. For example, abortion is heavily promoted by feminists today.
In the United States, while many women are from the middle-upper class, they are speaking for everyone - women in the future. For example, abortion is heavily promoted by feminists today.
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Feminsim is so old hat
The new thing now is Manism
This is a movement to ensure the 'equality' of men but really secretly it is about portraying women as the enemy and as the sole oppressor of men
The aim of this movement is to divide the sexes and to create discord between them in the hope that women will become antagonistic towards men and men will become suspicious of women to the degree that relationships across the western world will begin to break down and no one will want to start up new ones for fear of the repurcussions
manism is going to replace women with sex robots as the ultimate end game checkmate move in the battle of the sexes
babies will be born in test tubes in laboratories and women will be harvested for their eggs until they can be produced synthetically with no need for the female of the species at all
Women will become an irrelevance and suitable TV material will be provided for them to further demoralise them and prevent them from managing to form an effective counter strike
The ultimate hope and longterm goal of manism is the total extinction of the female of the species. Manism believes that under models created using game theory that the battle of the sexes will prove fatal to one or other of the sexes and it is the belief of manism that if men are to prevail that they must launch a pre-emptive strike against women having lulled them into a state of post feminist malaise
The new thing now is Manism
This is a movement to ensure the 'equality' of men but really secretly it is about portraying women as the enemy and as the sole oppressor of men
The aim of this movement is to divide the sexes and to create discord between them in the hope that women will become antagonistic towards men and men will become suspicious of women to the degree that relationships across the western world will begin to break down and no one will want to start up new ones for fear of the repurcussions
manism is going to replace women with sex robots as the ultimate end game checkmate move in the battle of the sexes
babies will be born in test tubes in laboratories and women will be harvested for their eggs until they can be produced synthetically with no need for the female of the species at all
Women will become an irrelevance and suitable TV material will be provided for them to further demoralise them and prevent them from managing to form an effective counter strike
The ultimate hope and longterm goal of manism is the total extinction of the female of the species. Manism believes that under models created using game theory that the battle of the sexes will prove fatal to one or other of the sexes and it is the belief of manism that if men are to prevail that they must launch a pre-emptive strike against women having lulled them into a state of post feminist malaise
Yes it is a serious point. Extreme feminists to me means radical feminists. The ones who claim that men can rape women just by looking at them and such, and who believe that thinking that natural differences between genders exist, is a crime.
They are scary faks. Prove that I'm wrong on this.
the field of feminism includes a wide diversity of published opinion, and a lot of hot debate. there is not just feminism, that should conform to what one person wants or does not want the discipline to be, there are a diversity of feminisms. no perspectives are excluded, all may be argued for or against. in rigorous scholarly and academic contexts, where these perspectives are in fact examined and discussed, this allowance for diversity of opinion results in a highly enriched theoretical field. extreme perspectives are greatly valuable to the field.
