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I mean seriously...*seriously*?!


Passing through
Nov 29, 2008
My God...what is *wrong* with people? Do we not care about our kids anymore?

Forget the crazies. It's the so-called normal people you need to watch.


2 arrested in alleged torture of teen, who escaped

By MICHELLE LOCKE and MARCUS WOHLSEN, Associated Press Writers
51 mins ago

TRACY, Calif. — A Girl Scout leader and her husband were arrested after an emaciated, terrified and nearly naked 17-year-old showed up at a gym with a chain locked to his ankle, saying he had just fled his captors, authorities said Tuesday.

Police were also seeking a third suspect and had an outstanding felony warrant against her for an earlier alleged assault against the teen.

The boy, who authorities said ran away from a Sacramento foster home last year, came into the In-Shape Sports Club in Tracy on Monday wearing only boxer briefs and covered in what appeared to be soot, gym manager Chuck Ellis said. Tracy is about 70 miles south of Sacramento.

Ellis said the teen was scared someone was going to come after him and asked to be hidden.

"He said, 'Don't let them get me, don't let them get me,'" Ellis said. "He was totally terrified."

The boy said he had been held captive for nearly a year, said Ellis, adding that he looked as if he was only 10 to 12 years old.

Authorities said they believe the boy had been chained to a car seat but picked up a dropped key, unlocked himself and fled when the car stopped.

Police arrested Kelly Layne Lau, 30, and Michael Schumacher, 34, late Monday after questioning the couple. A subsequent search of their nearby home found further evidence implicating them, said Tracy police spokesman Matt Robinson, who would not describe what officers found.

The couple were booked on charges of torture, kidnapping and child abuse, and were set to appear in court Thursday, according to online jail records. They were being held at the San Joaquin County jail in lieu of bail of nearly $1.2 million each. Prosecutors did not know if the couple had attorneys.

Lau and Schumacher's four young children, two of whom were home when police arrived, have been taken into protective custody, authorities said.

Lau started serving as a local Girl Scout leader sometime in September, after a background check turned up nothing to cause concern, said Pam Saltenberger, chief executive of Girl Scouts Heart of Central California.

Police still were seeking 43-year-old Caren Ramirez, who they say might be the boy's aunt, on suspicion of participating in the abuse, Robinson said. Investigators were trying to figure out the connection between the couple and Ramirez, who authorities believe occasionally visited their home.

Ramirez had become the teen's guardian after child-welfare officials took him from his abusive father three or four years ago, Robinson said. After Ramirez was arrested for allegedly abusing the boy, he was placed in another foster home, which he fled in late 2007, police said.

Since then, the boy's whereabouts hadn't been known until around 4 p.m. Monday, when he entered the fitness center, Robinson said.

The family's tidy two-story house was decked with two large Christmas wreaths on the front doors. No one answered Tuesday when a reporter knocked on the front door.
According to neighbors, the couple seemed to lead lives that revolved around their kids. On her MySpace page, Lau describes herself as a stay-at-home mom and says her husband worked as a contractor. She posted many photos of her family, friends and pets.

Jennifer Foster, 33, said she and Lau became acquaintances through their children, who were neighborhood playmates. Foster said she first noticed an older boy with the family about a year ago.

"She told me that he was a nephew that was staying with them because he was having problems at home," Foster said. The boy was outside frequently, and his appearance never suggested anything unusual was happening behind closed doors, though the last time she saw him was May, she said.

Another neighbor said that more recently, the boy looked unwell.

"The last time I seen him, maybe two weeks ago, we were both taking our cans in from garbage days and he was really skinny and pale," Rachel Portillo said.

Robinson, the police spokesman, said the boy was confused when approached by detectives Monday, unsure where he had come from and how long he had been held. He was taken to a hospital and was in stable condition Tuesday afternoon.

"The victim says he was held against his will," Robinson said. "When you have a 17-year-old boy showing up with a bloody ankle from having a chain wrapped around it, it's one of those things for officers to put one and one together."

Robinson said detectives would interview the boy more Tuesday when he is a "little healthier." Police wouldn't release details about any conversations they've had with the boy or the couple since the arrests.
Oh wow...

That's disgusting.
I'd vote yes for the death penalty in cases like this.
I can't bear to think about the boy.
poor boy.Hope they feed him well over there.
It makes me so sick to my stomach.

I can't understand what makes people do this - and to a child! These issues always hit me hardest, it seems. :(
I imagine trust will be an issue for him for a long, long time. Wow, makes my feeling sorry for myself earlier because I don't have a dishwasher seem pretty lame right about now.
yea, he would need it... especially if vengence starts building up later in life...
I lol'd

Looks like a fighter I knew in High School.
WTF is wrong with people. Geez. Poor kid. :(
I have seen it in the news.... crazy... Tracy CA... near where i reside. :m077:
oh my god.
that was upsetting.

i honestly can't believe people are this sick.
I've heard news like this before. Makes me wonder how the kid's mind works after that. I hope he gets better...
Couldn't read this when it was first posted. News like this make me sick to my stomach at the thought that there are such depraved people out there that would abuse others let alone kids is so far beyond disturbing I don’t feel better for knowing it.
Couldn't read this when it was first posted. News like this make me sick to my stomach at the thought that there are such depraved people out there that would abuse others let alone kids is so far beyond disturbing I don’t feel better for knowing it.

I couldn't agree more, Lurker.

If I see a headline that suggests something like this, I avoid it. I've unfortunately stumbled unwittingly onto stories like this, or been trapped in places with somebody else's TV or something on.

The Austrian guy with the kids in his basement wrecked me for a very long time.

Tales like this haunt me beyond a point that's healthy for me. I definitely feel worse for knowing them, and am not ashamed to admit I avoid this brand of news whenever possible.