How do you think you would compare.?

[Eventhorizon]

If all of a sudden people could understand other peoples thoughts, how do you think you would compare to everyone else in the world?

Angry, sad, happy, insane?

Typed on phone hence mis type

 

[floatingbridge]

Even if I could read minds, everybody thinks on different planes... I would still be the same perplexed and puzzled as if I couldn't read them.
External contributions are also often a reflection of the internal (e.g. body language tells you a lot more than what is said usually), so I would feel similar to how I feel about understanding people currently.

 

[LucyJr]

If all of a sudden people could understand other peoples thoughts, how do you think you would compare to everyone else in the world?

Angry, sad, happy, insane?

Typed on phone hence mis type

probably extremely confused I would be if I could understand other people thoughts!

As for comparation, why would I want to compare with anyone? Isn't this the very essence of illusion? I need a objective and strong standard, not a fleeting and changeable one.

 

[La Sagna]

I think it would be scary to know what people really thought because I think a lot of people work at staying civil and don't say what they really think.

I think everybody is very different but overall I believe that people in general are much angrier and much more judgemental and consesending about other people than I am. I don't think I'm happier or sadder than people in general but I am probably able to be more neutral in situations that would put most people into an emotional frenzy or would fill them with resentment or anger. This may reflect more how North American people are around me. Perhaps in Asia and other places in the world they may be able to be more neutral like me.

 

[Eventhorizon]

I was really trying to have people think about this as if you could hear people speaking their thoughts out loud. The idea that you could hear actual thoughts and what it would be like undoubtedly could be debated for years to come. I would have to suspect it would be a little bit like learning a new operating system. I personally don’t think in words unless I am typing or thinking about typing. Its more of a image\feeling\thought of words kind of thing.

What I was getting at is exactly what La Sagna mentioned. The idea that all people judge instantly. The very first second you see someone you have never seen before, its like there is this massive computative thing that happens in your brain. It only lasts a second or two and by the time you are done, you have formed a complete opinion of them basis on nothing but sight.

I recognized myself doing this a long while back and since then I make an effort not to judge someone solely on their first impression. Even doing this though I have generally found that in almost all cases, the person does end up being as I initially assessed, its just not the whole story.

I believe people would find me a good bit more aggressive if they could hear my thoughts. Undoubtedly they would hear someone less sure of themselves and more full of doubt.
I seriously wonder what some people besides myself think but would never want to find out. I don’t think society would last long that way.

 

[just me]

I'd have to put on my best thoughts.

 

[Eventhorizon]

why would I want to compare with anyone?

Its not about wanting to do anything. Just a hypothetical thought based scenario.
This mostly stems from a recently realization that some of the people I work with seem to have an particular sense of confidence or...maybe a better word is righteousness. For the life of me, I have no idea why. They really aren't that intelligent by any means and I find myself never saying this to their faces. Part of it is that I simply see no reason to say this type of thing to people like that as it would mostly be a waste of time. However there are times when they step past a point they have no right to step past considering what can only be described as their mentally challenged minds and where I sometimes have to catch myself before I tell them whats really up.

I suspect this sounds pretty harsh. I dont think this way about most people, but... have you ever noticed how the people that talk the most and the loudest are generally the people that shouldn't talk at all? Typing excluded.

I have just recently been annoyed by people that shouldn't be able to annoy me so this is a little like venting for me.

 

[say what]

anxious and a lot less confident than people think.

also, a lot more pervy than people think too.

 

[La Sagna]

also, a lot more pervy than people think too.

I can relate to that. People I know would be very surprised at what goes through my mind and gets filtered.
Funny but inappropriate thoughts always pop up but I know better than to share with most people.

 

[LucyJr]

Its not about wanting to do anything. Just a hypothetical thought based scenario.
This mostly stems from a recently realization that some of the people I work with seem to have an particular sense of confidence or...maybe a better word is righteousness. For the life of me, I have no idea why. They really aren't that intelligent by any means and I find myself never saying this to their faces. Part of it is that I simply see no reason to say this type of thing to people like that as it would mostly be a waste of time. However there are times when they step past a point they have no right to step past considering what can only be described as their mentally challenged minds and where I sometimes have to catch myself before I tell them whats really up.

I suspect this sounds pretty harsh. I dont think this way about most people, but... have you ever noticed how the people that talk the most and the loudest are generally the people that shouldn't talk at all? Typing excluded.

I have just recently been annoyed by people that shouldn't be able to annoy me so this is a little like venting for me.

People are always gone talk about everything. That's just life. I think if one wants to mature as a person, one must pass the 'talk' of people, or trying to see the 'hidden essence' of people. We have to find something deeper.
It is better not to think about other people. Its better if we think only at ourselfs and analyse only ourselfs. I think it saves us from so many unnecesary and insignificant things.

 

[tfg345i4u5lw]

People are always gone talk about everything. That's just life.

I reckon that's the truth. People are always gone talk about everythang. Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna git!!

 

[Eventhorizon]

People are always gone talk about everything. That's just life. I think if one wants to mature as a person, one must pass the 'talk' of people, or trying to see the 'hidden essence' of people. We have to find something deeper.
It is better not to think about other people. Its better if we think only at ourselfs and analyse only ourselfs. I think it saves us from so many unnecesary and insignificant things.

Sure but doesnt understanding other people help you understand yourself?

 

[LucyJr]

Sure but doesnt understanding other people help you understand yourself?

My philosophy is that I have first to understand and know myself, in order to succesfully understand others.

The main difference and step I made in my life (quite 4 moths only actually) is that I focus only on myself, I look only at my faults.
Its very eliberating, in the sense that I don't anymore worry about others, and secondly that I can see myself clearly, now that I focus only on myself.

I don't believe in the idea of self-esteem. I think we have enough self-esteem. We start wars from our pride, we think badly about other people (even when there isn't anythink bad), we judge, we pretend, we're fighting for our own good more than anything else.

I'm a Christian (as you know), and I believe in the teaching of humility, of denying the self, because the self is hateful and full of pride. But this teaching of humility is not only in Christianity. You can find it in Buddhism, and in many other philosphies. Many people in history realised its incredible truth, the need for humility. I think the greatest people that ever lived were the ones who were nothing, who were free from themselfs.

 

[Eventhorizon]

I believe in the teaching of humility, .

Do you think that if you were not a Christian, this is something you would still believe in?

 

[acd]

This is a really good question. I think if people could read my mind they would find me much more aggressive and much more competitive and much more judgemental and critical than I appear. Also, much more drawn to power and much more sexual. At the same time, there would also be glimpses of intense love for others and appreciation and vulnerability than I show. It would be acd--undiluted. Many things that go on inside each of us have to be processed through a filter in order to get along in society. Having your mind read takes that filter away so it's kind of unnerving to think of! I don't know that I'd be worse than others. We all have dark sides.

 

[LucyJr]

Do you think that if you were not a Christian, this is something you would still believe in?

Probably no or yes. I don't know. Who knows what I would come to believe? What if I would think myself as better or smarter than other people, how I would come than to accept the truth of humility? Probably I would deeply despise such a teaching, thinking its for 'wussies' and for 'losers'.

Can one go to Julius Caesar, or to Napoleon, and say to both of them : 'Do you know you are small? Do you know you live in a illusion thinking that you're any better than other people? Humble yourselfs, big boys. Come to face the reality!'

Or can one go to a big rich man, which has many many casinos, social power, incredible and outstanding capacity for making money out of nothing, or whatever, everything which is considered to be great, and say to him: "Hey man, you are just like the other people. You are mortable, you will die, and you will die as you were born, whithout nothing to take with you. You are just like the other people! Get off from your castle of illusion !"

Can the people that are 'great' believe the truth? They live in a illusion, and its hard for them to be faced with the truth. They despise the word humility.

The Bible say God has some ways to make the kings bow down before Him. Here is Micah 7:2

2 The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.

3 That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.

4 The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.

 

[Eventhorizon]

Probably no or yes. I don't know. Who knows what I would come to believe? What if I would think myself as better or smarter than other people, how I would come than to accept the truth of humility? Probably I would deeply despise such a teaching, thinking its for 'wussies' and for 'losers'.

You have touched on one thing that deeply worries me concerning religion.

 

[LucyJr]

You have touched on one thing that deeply worries me concerning religion.

What is that?

 

[Eventhorizon]

What is that?

The idea that some people would either be completely different people without religion or would act differently. Take religion away from them and what do you end up with?

 

[ThomasJ79]

Well, if people could hear my thoughts and I could hear theirs, then I'm sure I would discover that mine aren't that bad. Some positives they would find is that I rarely lie, and if I do, it may be more a a white lie. Pretty much I will tell what people ask, although I may avoid answering the question. I often wish that I am not asked certain things because I know that I will spill the beans! Not always good for me, considering how people may react. People would find that I like nearly everyone and love many people. Just being around certain people fill my heart with joy. My heart flutters being around a few women in my life. It's plutonic, but I love them. I cannot help it.

People would find that I have high standards and that many people fall below them. I feel disappointed by people a lot, especially when I feel they are avoiding responsibility or trying to place more of the burden on my shoulders. I can tell when someone could've been able to this or that and are blatantly avoiding it. I don't think people realize that when they say no to tasks that they fall toward me and because I have a hard time saying no I end up doing more than my fair share of work. This upsets me. People would also find how sad my heart is when I'm not treated with the pleasant, considerate manner in which I treat them. I wonder how accurate my intuitions about others really are. I often feel that I know what they are really thinking based on their presentation and not what they say. This can be misleading, so it would be interesting to see how my judgements measure up.

I am also more sexual than people realize, but I suppose most people are more sexual than they let on.