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bernie's an infj, hence, the integrity.

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    This is so funny. Bernie is a NT type of some sort. He wants to analysis everything and he can't relate to people on a personal level (no Fe).
     
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    Let's have him on the forum for an extensive interview and find out! Instead of giving audience members car keys, they will get free health insurance.
     
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    Bernie is aiming to make medicare universal, if you are paying federal income taxes you are already paying for medicare, if it is expanded you will be paying more, nobody is talking about "free health insurance".
    the rabid right
     
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    And... I'm missing it... how does this relate to his MBTI type?
     
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    it directly relates to his integrity as the post I was addressing touts the idea that Bernie is ingenuous in suggesting that healthcare can be free.
     
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    I don’t think we can assume MBTI archetypes simply based on integrity or caring about humans.

    Personally, I think 99% of politicians are sociopaths or very least in the cluster B category.

    Even the ones who tout caring and helping humans. To me it’s just a platform for power, votes, and recognition. They all find niche issues to ensure future followers. All of it, every single bit of it is lip service.

    The only difference is weather they are covert (Obama) or overt (Trump).
     
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    If humanity built an AI and into this we pour all our cruelty, our malice, and our will to dominate all life, would it be any different than a modern day politician?

    Would it be INTJ? :m197:
     
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    INTJ lmao!

    I bet it would be the same as any politician. However, it would lack the tact, charm, and pretty words politicians and other manipulative people would use.
    That would cause more of a revolt against it as it would only reason to tell us how worthless and incapable we are rather than building on our ego and believing it has our best intentions in mind.

    It would be an interesting experiment though! Too bad I don’ know programming.
     
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    You think because he cares about society he has Fe? Do you even?
     
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    i picture the typical politician as an estp - most everything's negotiable.

    i only know one intj well. he's a good psychologist. he's hypnotized me (to help me achieve my goals) a few times- got to be a little sensitive to the feelings of others to do that. yes, he made the occasional relationship gaffe. the thing i like best about intj's is their being undaunted by tough challenges.
     
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    The only politicians I've studied to be "true" INFJs are: President Richard Nixon and Congressman Ron Paul. There is more Te in Bernie Sanders to be INFJ. ENTJ fits, but his idealism and "Big Idea" personality makes me think ENFP ( tertiary T), also. I haven't studied him enough to be certain. But I can be certain he is an intuitive extrovert of some kind.
     
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    @Pin yeah, I'm down with your analysis on Bernie as ENTJ.
     
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    Integrity? ...not inherently an INFJ "trait". THIS is what an INFJ politician looks like...for real.
     
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    I always thought Nixon was an ISTJ.
     
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    This is brilliant.
    "When I was a young person, what we learned, is that black people smell." :tearsofjoy:
     
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    Yeah @Pin a lot of typology sites say Nixon=ISTJ. I would say a lot of folks are fooled by INFJ Fe-auxiliary which can look like a lot of things in general public sphere. You gotta look deeper, his private tapes, notes, etc. He hid his true motives very well, the way only an INFJ can. When I think INFJ in power I always think "wolf in sheep's clothing". Which perfectly personifies Nixon, IMO.
     
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    Fe has nothing to do with caring "about society" thats more of a Te thing (order, hierarchy, stucture, quantity, etc.). Fe is more about etiquette, caring about what "feels good" in general. Fe is about equanimity even false equivalency. "Political Correctness" for its own sake would be Fe, IMO.
     
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    Quote from Nixon's private tapes, regarding JFK:
    "Kennedy treated his staff like dogs, particularly his secretaries and the others,” Nixon said. “His staff created the impression of warm, sweet and nice to people, reads a lot of books, a philosopher and all that sort of thing. That was a pure creation of mythology. We have created no mythology.”

    His private envy and use of metaphor in his regular off the cuff speech is a dead give away...INFJ. ISTJs are way more dutiful and straightforward, even in private.
     
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