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bernie's an infj, hence, the integrity.

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    he often talks about love and fairness, too.
     
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    Bernie Sanders is a clear ENTJ.

    Sanders: "Yes, we want people to be nice people, we sure do. But you gotta look at the issues that people stand for."

    Sanders: "What I don't want campaigns to be about is soap operas and personal attacks."

    Sanders: "I think that the media spends far too much time [on politicians' personalities]."

    Sanders: "[Politics should not be] a personality contest. [I will] give you an example. George W. Bush ... happens to be a very nice guy. He's funny, I don't think he's mean-spirited. ... He was one of the worst presidents in the history of America. Sometimes nice people do terrible, terrible things. And sometimes people who are not so nice - LBJ, my God, he was brutish in many ways, right? Yet he was one of the most progressive presidents in history."

    Luke Albee [former chief of staff:] "He has no hobbies. He works. He doesn't take time off. Bernie doesn't even eat lunch. The idea of building a fire and reading a book and going on vacation, that's not something he does."

    Sanders: "If [people] want to enjoy ... benefits ... they have to accept their responsibilities."

    Sanders: "[When I am met with] stupid criticism ... respond immediately and forcefully. ... will not allow [myself] to be on the defensive."

    Sanders: "I am in general very hard on people."

    Richard Sugarman: "[He is not like those] leftists who [are] more invested in the symbolism than in the outcome."New York Times: "He likes to hit lots of meetings, quick, businesslike transactions."

    New York Magazine: "Small talk and false ingratiations are not his thing."

    Vermont Life Magazine: "[There is an] undeniable force [in] Sanders' personality."

    New York Times: "He makes no great effort to 'connect' emotionally in the manner that politicians strive for these days, and he probably doesn't 'feel your pain' either. ... It's not that Sanders is against connecting, or feeling your pain, but [to him] the process seems needlessly passive and unproductive."

    New York Times: "Sanders crinkles his face whenever a conversation veers too long from this kind of 'important stuff' and into the 'silly stuff,' like clothes and style. 'I do not like personality profiles,' Sanders told me during our first conversation."

    Richard Sugarman [long-time friend:] "Does he have an 'off' mode? Not really."

    The Guardian: "The senator's longtime friend - and, until 2012, his chief of staff - recently tried to persuade Sanders to engage with the work of Thomas Piketty, the French economist whose research into wealth inequality has received widespread acclaim. Sanders rolled his eyes and replied: 'I got 30 seconds.'"

    Boston Globe: "[Sanders] has avoided telling personal anecdotes detailing much about himself in the nearly three and half decades since he [entered politics]."

    New York Magazine: "Bernie is not known for letting his hair down. 'The guy works 100 hours a week. Maybe he hit a golf ball at the driving range once or twice. That's his fun for the year,' says a former political associate."

    Garrison Nelson: "Bernie is not going to win a lot of 'whom would you rather live on a desert island with' contests."

    Jim Rader: "I once asked him what he meant by calling himself a 'socialist,' and he referred to an article that was ... Albert Einstein's 'Why Socialism?'"

    The Observer: "He is not outwardly charming; he rarely glad-hands and his speeches are often mirthless."

    New York Times: "He is no pleaser or jokester by anyone's prototype."

     
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    Are you saying that Bernie Sanders is an INFJ because he has integrity?

    Other types have integrity too, so I don't find this very convincing.
     
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    infj's don't like to do small talk and my entj brother-in-law certainly does. i feel that nf conection with bernie.
     
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    I imagine that he got better expressing warmth over time, but I assure you, this guy is not an extraverted feeler or even a dominant feeler.



    He called a kid dumb for Christ's sake, he debates with them like adults.
     
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    Damn right!
     
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    i'm not sure what type he is. he does have a lot of social energy for an introvert. i wouldn't discount any type based on a single social gaffe from someone who's been in the public eye for years. i make social gaffes.
     
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    bernie certainly is an idealist.
     
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    This thread seems legit
     
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    I think he seems too cranky to be INFJ. He doesn't seem to play up that Fe in the political sphere. He's more passionate about his ideas than he is about pleasing others. I don't see him as a feeling type. But do think he is probably Fi.

    Omg this just makes me love him even more (the chat with the kids! ):laughing:
    I can't imagine an Fe dom making those gaffes.
     
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    Oh, just let the lady feel the Bern.
     
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    clips without context.
     
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    I just might, I don't have time for this right now.
     
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    Oh boy Bernie!
    Do I get a guess?

    ENTJ -- he has too much of a plan.

    He has a well developed sense of how to help others, probably known many people downtrodden by a broken system over his life, starting at a young age.
     
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    well, he does do a good job of demonstrating his ideas.
     
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    Oh certainly, but it's more than that. The way he works things through when listening is very NTJ ish. He's not listening to the people as much as comparing it to his inner agenda and responding with that. I'd even venture to say he's an INTJ like my dad.

    I doubt he's an INFJ as we tend to listen and respond to others and their needs prior to our own... unless we're caught in our own little world, LOL.
     
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    in a political or scientific argument, i listen and respond like bernie. when hearing someone's personal story, i respond with empathy. i notice you're an inxj.
     
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