Australian Christians seem as nice as American Christians

heh, evil twats.

 

I seem to find in your posts a generalisation of Christians. We're not all the same. We're not all bad people. We're not all narrow-minded homophobic conservatives.

So please don't lump us all in the same category.

Yes, I'm Australian.
Yes, I'm a Christian. Catholic to be exact.
Yes, I attend Church every week.
Yes, faith is important to me.

Two men or two women want a baby? Don't see the problem.

 

That's ok.

There are plenty of us around

 

OMG! THE HORROR! THE INHUMANITY! DONT THEY KNOW GAYS BREED MORE GAYS!

That bugs me no end. Children need safe, loving home environments. You'll never get me to believe that a heterosexual couple can provide that while a homosexual couple can't. I make a point of avoiding happy-clappers like that, they believe their holier-than-thou religion excuses their bigoted discrimination.

 

This cartoon pretty much illustrates how I feel about the word 'christian' or 'christianity' these days.

 

Hi Satya! I'm a Christian, and I too, hate the hippocrates who say they're Christians and therefore, they know it all! I've been hurt by these type of people, and some "leaders" are actually rather narcissistic to take the pastoral role (which should be the server role). Just don't toss the whole basket of apples out if some are rotten. A lot of us are caring human beings and do not agree with all the crap some preachers try to force down our throats. (off course, we end up being "rebels" and "witches" since "rebellion is as of witchcraft") I don't fall for those poor manipulation anymore! I understand where you're coming from, because I suffered judgement as a Christian, BY Christians, and today when I see those horrible people acting "in the name of God", I feel embarrassed because I'm not one who would do such thing, because that's not what Jesus "would do" and finally because it causes generalizations that I'm not part of. Not all Christians are arrogant bastards. I just wanted to take that out of my chest.

 

I don't think homosexual parents can't be good parents...but still, I think a heterosexual couple would be more balanced for the child's well-being. Think of the teasing and prejudice that'll come with having homosexual parents. How awful to grow up with that kind of environment.

I'm all for it...don't get me wrong, but it's a little unfair to the child. The child of a homosexual couple is guaranteed unnecessary hardships they would not have with a heterosexual couple. That's my only concern. Until homosexual parenting becomes socially acceptable, I would be reluctant to place a child with a homosexual couple first over a heterosexual one.

 

OK...that's ONE kid...and the only reason he is popular is BECAUSE he has two fathers! No one would want to hear him sing if homosexual parenting wasn't so taboo right now. Good for that kid. But let's talk about the rest of them. (I did like the song, btw, very catchy!)

I'm not saying that ALL children of homosexual couples will face trauma/hardships, but let's be honest about it and say it won't be the social "norm." Not that the social norm is always good...but it'll raise questions and controversy for the child and put that child in situations s/he would not normally be in if s/he were raised by a hetero couple.

That's all I'm saying. And I believe we should limit the amount of stress we can on a child by placing them with the happiest/balanced home environment possible. I don't think homosexual parents can provide that stability right now with the hullabaloo going on today. When this whole mess about homosexual parenting ceases to be controversial, I would feel a lot better about placing a child with those couples. It'll be happier for both parent and child without society pointing its finger in their faces. This isn't to say a child right now with homosexual parents will be unhappy, but it increases his/her chance for lack of social acceptance, discrimination, teasing, etc.

 

Noooooo...that's just stupid, Satya! Hahaha! I don't think you're getting my point because you're too busy being defensive. Don't be defensive...read what I'm writing. I'm agreeing with you that gays have the right to adopt children. That should not be denied to them. The best parents possible should be able to adopt, in some cases, (like the ridiculous scenario you described) a homosexual couple would obviously be the better pick...

Here's what I'm trying to say for the THIRD time:
Say two couples are perfect in every way, one is hetero one is homo, due to the fact that homosexuals are being discriminated against (sometimes even violently let alone verbally/legally) it would probably be better for the child to be placed with the hetero couple. Again, this is not to say that ALL children with homosexual parents are going to be the brunt of societal tormenting, but it sure does increase the odds.

Having a funny last name or telling stupid jokes is not even on the same plane as this, and you know it, so why bother making that your argument? I'll agree and say that teasing is a fact of life...but there's a difference here.

You even did research supporting my point! Some of those folks in your class wanted GENOCIDE for homosexuals! There are some people out there that feel so strongly about gays that they could/do HURT people! Why subject a child to that? If you want me to dig up some articles on gay-related hate crimes, I will. But c'mon, Satya! It kinda goes without saying. It sucks for homosexual couples that this is an issue...but sadly, it is.

I think homosexual parents can be just as good as heterosexual parents. I don't think sexual orientation dictates how good a parent you'll be. I hope you read all the way through so I don't have to write this out again. If you still disagree, I respect your opinion. We can agree to disagree on this forum. I'm not attacking you or anyone else here, I'm just stating my opinion.

 

*sigh* OK Satya.

 

You have yet to deal with me.

 

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