AntiFA, the newest terrorist organization.
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How in your mind, is it terroristic to be anti-nazi @Eventhorizon ? Maybe because your nazi-ass is the nazi.
In relation to any issue, you seem assume it’s untrue because you judge me as a bleeding heart liberal....and it seems you hate me personally.
You talk down to me and just about everyone else instead of listening and trying to understand that viewpoint.
I have tried to understand your own...I just don’t understand where the Nazi’s in the country became the peaceful protestors and the anti-facsists are viewed by you as negative.
Any side being violent about it is unnecessary and negative.
I don’t support either side being violent or inciting violence.
It seems you keep defending the Neo-Nazis and the KKK and the “Unite the Right” march that turned into a terrible, deadly, and violent night.
Not to mention the above guy shooting into the crowd (as you can hear him call someone a “nigger” just before he fires.).
Nazis are the bad guys...being opposed to Fascism is a good thing.
What you seem to be disagreeing with are their methods and tactics which I also disagree with....but because of their political views they are viewed as the “enemy”?
And there were people there who wanted a fight to break out...I’m sorry, but most were NOT Antifa, but the Nazis and KKK and those marching with them.
They had guys with helmets, sap gloves, shields, and batons...not to mention those armed with guns, knives, etc.
Clearly incited to commit more hate and violence some asshole drives his car through the peaceful Anti-Nazi protesters killing that young lady and wounding several others - what did that accomplish?
You seem to be defending that side...as have a few others on here, why?
Trump then holds a rally...and it only serves to incite more protesting and racial tension, more violence and negativity....more separation in our nation.
There was nothing contained in his speech at that rally (and I watched the whole thing), that would serve to bring people in our country together.
It was speaking to a very narrow and narrowing base...37% approval rating.
I just don’t get why you start a thread to talk about Antifa being the bad guys...when there are guys with flags and uniforms that basically say - "Look at me! I’m a fucking Nazi!” " I’m in the KKK!” And, "I am marching with my Tiki torch chanting along with the Nazis about those dirty Jews!”
Everyone knows what those groups stand for.
They don’t stand for anything good, positive, or to promote unity and love.
The KKK and the American Neo-Nazi party don’t go volunteer at soup kitchens, have bake sales for charity, etc.
They have one mission - to keep white people in charge of things and to disenfranchise anyone of color...ultimately they seek resegregation or outright elimination of any race but whites (jews included).
Start a thread against the Nazis and the KKK.
But instead you start one that seems to be defending them?
It’s all very bizarre...I mean, didn’t we all learn from 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' that the Nazis are always the bad guys?
Where do you stand?
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Implying that antifa is democrat.
Ok just to let you know I'll be reporting posts like these now and from now on. Calling people hate names doesnt work for me. If the site admins allow this to continue I will have to assume there are no rules for using hate names or any name you like when describing people. I wouldnt use them myself but racial slurs would clearly be allowed if you are allowed to call people Nazi or the like at your whim.
I'm disappointed in you.
@the. Here kid, I thought you might like a definition of Nazi from the dictionary. Only because you are more than just a little confused.
Nazi
[naht-see, nat-]
noun, plural Na·zis.
Nazi
[naht-see, nat-]
noun, plural Na·zis.
- a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler and advocated totalitarian government, territorial expansion, anti-Semitism, and Aryan supremacy, all these leading directly to World War II and the Holocaust.
- (often lowercase)a person elsewhere who holds similar views.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckra...violent-turn-hollywood-arrest-charlottesville
How awful that we have terrorists like Antifa disrupting peaceful demonstrations by these upstanding Neo-Nazi citizens!
How awful that we have terrorists like Antifa disrupting peaceful demonstrations by these upstanding Neo-Nazi citizens!
Antifa: What is the alt-left group?
Well before the deadly Aug. 12 rally in Charlottesville and the ongoing violent clashes with white supremacists and other groups, federal authorities warned local officials the actions of left-wing extremists were becoming increasingly confrontational and dangerous.
Federal agencies warned of the growing likelihood of lethal violence between left-wing anarchists and right-wing white supremacists.
Some even classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence.”
In previously unreported documents dating back to April 2016 and viewed by Fox News, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security wrote that “anarchist extremists” and Antifa groups were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies. They blamed these groups for attacks on police, government and political institutions, racists, fascists and “symbols of capitalism.”
The agencies warned the rise of fascist, nationalist, racist or anti-immigrant groups in U.S. political discourse could lead to violent backlash from these “anarchist extremists.”
The FBI and DHS had no comment on the assessments, saying they were not intended to be made public.
POLITCO was the first to report on the documents Friday.
Brian Levin, a former New York City police officer who monitors domestic militants at the Center for Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, cautioned calling all members of the Antifa movement “domestic terrorists,” and said not all tolerate the use of violence while protesting.
“People in this movement allow for confronting, jostling, committing low-level types of offenses, but there has been for some time a core that have tipped the movement to confrontational violence,” he told Fox News on Friday. “The hardest edge in the Antifa spectrum comes under that category...not all Antifa are busting heads”
He added the same could be said for members of the alt-right, some of whom tolerate and justify the use of violence.
In recent decades, authorities have focused almost exclusively on right-wing groups as the most likely instigators of domestic terrorist violence, especially after Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, killing 168 people.
But groups such as Antifa, which is short for anti-fascist, have been growing in numbers and becoming more tolerant about using violence.
The violent clashes in Charlottesville on Aug. 12 that left one woman dead was only one recent event that drew dozens -- and in some cases hundreds -- of people on both sides, many of whom were armed and looking for a fight.
Some DHS and FBI intelligence reports began flagging protesters before the election, POLITICO reported.
“The socio-political landscape has changed,” Levin said. “The same way white nationalists used Obama as a figure to rally about...now Antifa and anarchists see in Trump a broad-base [enemy] that has united them.”
He added: “There is a sense that we are getting divided.”
Some law enforcement officials told POLITICO Trump’s election in November also gave Antifa activists a new target, separate from white nationalist groups: Trump supporters.
“It was in that period [as the Trump campaign emerged] that we really became aware of them,” a senior law enforcement official tracking domestic extremists told POLITICO. “These Antifa guys were showing up with weapons, shields and bike helmets and just beating the s--- out of people...They’re using Molotov cocktails, they’re starting fires, they’re throwing bombs and smashing windows.”
Specifically, the target became those from white supremacist and nationalist groups who came out in droves hailing Trump’s win and calling for further crackdowns on illegal immigrants and other groups. Those forces -- along with more traditional and less controversial demonstrators -- have also turned out to protest the removal of Confederate statues, which is what spurred the rally in Virginia.
Law enforcement officials said Trump’s rhetoric and policies further fueled motivations on both sides.
“Every time they have one of these protests where both sides are bringing guns, there are sphincters tightening in my world. Emotions get high, and fingers get twitchy on the trigger,” one official told POLITICO.
Levin called it “an escalating arms race” that spill onto social media and then back onto the streets with more people.
POLITICO reported recent FBI and DHS reports confirm they are actively monitoring “conduct deemed potentially suspicious and indicative of terrorist activity” by Antifa groups.
But one report acknowledged several significant “intelligence gaps,” including an inability to penetrate the groups’ “diffuse and decentralized organizational structure.” They said this makes it harder for law enforcement to identify violent groups and individuals.
“There’s a lot more we don’t know about these groups than what we do know about them,” one New Jersey law enforcement official told POLITICO.
Levin said it’s hard to forecast what will happen in the future, calling it a “fluid situation,” but to expect clashes to continue -- and grow larger and more frequent.
“[Antifa’s] list of what is fascist has grown far beyond the loathsome, Swastika-carrying white nationalists, to controversial conservatives, speakers, the police, journalists and random people who get in their way,” he said.
Lucia I. Suarez Sang is a Reporter for FoxNews.com
Huh, so both the FBI and DHS warned Obama WHILE he was President about Antifa. Guess they were concerned that they were too peacful.
Well before the deadly Aug. 12 rally in Charlottesville and the ongoing violent clashes with white supremacists and other groups, federal authorities warned local officials the actions of left-wing extremists were becoming increasingly confrontational and dangerous.
Federal agencies warned of the growing likelihood of lethal violence between left-wing anarchists and right-wing white supremacists.
Some even classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence.”
In previously unreported documents dating back to April 2016 and viewed by Fox News, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security wrote that “anarchist extremists” and Antifa groups were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies. They blamed these groups for attacks on police, government and political institutions, racists, fascists and “symbols of capitalism.”
The agencies warned the rise of fascist, nationalist, racist or anti-immigrant groups in U.S. political discourse could lead to violent backlash from these “anarchist extremists.”
The FBI and DHS had no comment on the assessments, saying they were not intended to be made public.
POLITCO was the first to report on the documents Friday.
Brian Levin, a former New York City police officer who monitors domestic militants at the Center for Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, cautioned calling all members of the Antifa movement “domestic terrorists,” and said not all tolerate the use of violence while protesting.
“People in this movement allow for confronting, jostling, committing low-level types of offenses, but there has been for some time a core that have tipped the movement to confrontational violence,” he told Fox News on Friday. “The hardest edge in the Antifa spectrum comes under that category...not all Antifa are busting heads”
He added the same could be said for members of the alt-right, some of whom tolerate and justify the use of violence.
In recent decades, authorities have focused almost exclusively on right-wing groups as the most likely instigators of domestic terrorist violence, especially after Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, killing 168 people.
But groups such as Antifa, which is short for anti-fascist, have been growing in numbers and becoming more tolerant about using violence.
The violent clashes in Charlottesville on Aug. 12 that left one woman dead was only one recent event that drew dozens -- and in some cases hundreds -- of people on both sides, many of whom were armed and looking for a fight.
Some DHS and FBI intelligence reports began flagging protesters before the election, POLITICO reported.
“The socio-political landscape has changed,” Levin said. “The same way white nationalists used Obama as a figure to rally about...now Antifa and anarchists see in Trump a broad-base [enemy] that has united them.”
He added: “There is a sense that we are getting divided.”
Some law enforcement officials told POLITICO Trump’s election in November also gave Antifa activists a new target, separate from white nationalist groups: Trump supporters.
“It was in that period [as the Trump campaign emerged] that we really became aware of them,” a senior law enforcement official tracking domestic extremists told POLITICO. “These Antifa guys were showing up with weapons, shields and bike helmets and just beating the s--- out of people...They’re using Molotov cocktails, they’re starting fires, they’re throwing bombs and smashing windows.”
Specifically, the target became those from white supremacist and nationalist groups who came out in droves hailing Trump’s win and calling for further crackdowns on illegal immigrants and other groups. Those forces -- along with more traditional and less controversial demonstrators -- have also turned out to protest the removal of Confederate statues, which is what spurred the rally in Virginia.
Law enforcement officials said Trump’s rhetoric and policies further fueled motivations on both sides.
“Every time they have one of these protests where both sides are bringing guns, there are sphincters tightening in my world. Emotions get high, and fingers get twitchy on the trigger,” one official told POLITICO.
Levin called it “an escalating arms race” that spill onto social media and then back onto the streets with more people.
POLITICO reported recent FBI and DHS reports confirm they are actively monitoring “conduct deemed potentially suspicious and indicative of terrorist activity” by Antifa groups.
But one report acknowledged several significant “intelligence gaps,” including an inability to penetrate the groups’ “diffuse and decentralized organizational structure.” They said this makes it harder for law enforcement to identify violent groups and individuals.
“There’s a lot more we don’t know about these groups than what we do know about them,” one New Jersey law enforcement official told POLITICO.
Levin said it’s hard to forecast what will happen in the future, calling it a “fluid situation,” but to expect clashes to continue -- and grow larger and more frequent.
“[Antifa’s] list of what is fascist has grown far beyond the loathsome, Swastika-carrying white nationalists, to controversial conservatives, speakers, the police, journalists and random people who get in their way,” he said.
Lucia I. Suarez Sang is a Reporter for FoxNews.com
Huh, so both the FBI and DHS warned Obama WHILE he was President about Antifa. Guess they were concerned that they were too peacful.
I don't really care, but I'm certain that your attempt to DL reinterpret the rules to manipulate the moderator team will certainly work in your favor.
I'm not sure what kind of person would do something so insidious, but I bet post 217 has a clue.