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  1. Orion

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    For quite a while now, I haven't felt like an INFJ. I don't feel like ANY type. I have this profound sense of disconnection that I can't even articulate into words. I question the fabric of my existence even. This MBTI thingy has disillusioned me.

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    I don't care much for people. I don't put other people before me- or at least I can't. Their feelings, even though they extract a response from me, don't move me to feeling empathetic towards them. I feel I can't express any of these feelings. I don't feel these feelings, which doesn't sound right but that's what it's like. I don't feel driven to help or nurture people. I don't take the time or initiative to find out how people are doing, to ask about their feelings or be interested in anyone.

    Relationships exhaust me. I'm not "looking" any more and I feel pretty content with that. Insults relating to my lack of activity in that area are met with a "Yeah, whatever", when I would've found myself deeply insulted.

    I don't have any ideals any more. I don't feel myself acting implicitly to an inner morality and I'm living the days as they come, just trying to get by as each task presents itself. I don't care much for the future because it feels pointless and a waste of time.

    I don't think deeply any more. At Uni, we've had these very arty and intuitive exercises that I would've eaten up before, but I just don't connect with it. I see what I see. I can't concentrate. I can't concentrate on anything if it's not in front of me or I don't have a clear picture of it in my head.

    What do you think? May I have your honest opinion, from your observations, on whether you think I'm an INFJ? In know I'm questioning the whole INFJ thing anyway but... I just need some outside opinions please. thanks.
     
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    I think your still an INFJ!, you might be very stressed however, which will explain your behavior, it is said that when us INFJ's are under a lot of stress/pressure and experience this feelings, that our shadow function ( a negative ESTP) pops out, which will explain your lack of care and feeling for people, and will explain why you might not perform so well inintuition exercises, do to this shadow ESTP mentality..at least that's what i think..
     
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    I still think your an INFJ, and from reading this, it further confirms it.

    It really just sounds like you are going through a low period. I went through something pretty similar to this in part of this past spring semester. The biggest piece is what you are describing about how you are feeling things, and having no desire to be around people. I was exactly like this, and it disturbed me. At points I didn't even know what I was feeling, or where the source of it came from. I kept telling myself "I just want to turn off and sleep forever...". It sounds like something in the past (within the year maybe), has really beat you up pretty hard, and this is just a recovery stage, albeit an unpleasent one.

    It took me a long time before I finally came out of the hole I was in. The hardest part was me not even knowing what was causing all of this. It severely bothered me that I could not figure it out. Over time, I slowly came to realize the source of all of this, and that allowed me to pull myself out of all of this. I finally got up and took action on what I was trying to ignore. I believe that once you start to realize the source of all of this, you will slowly begin to feel better and be "more yourself". How you are to figure all of this out, I sadly do not know. It is one of those things where you become so desprate to find out, that you try things, and one of them eventually trips something, and the rest falls into place. Hang in there, you will eventually start to feel better :hug:.
     
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    Yes, I've been doubting MBTI in general these past weeks. I've been trying to look for answers elsewhere, other forums, reading books but yet I still find it meaningless and inefficient in anything regarding what I'm actually going through. This idea that you are this and you are that seems so superficial like parents in the zoo telling their kids the differences between a lion and a leopard. The classification of individuals, objects and subjects are becoming more and more uninteresting to me because I just don't find the point in differentiating them despite their differences.

    I don't know Yield but I sort of see what you're going through but what I'm doing now is integrating all aspects of the MBTI and trying to come up with a different meaning besides a four letter type and to see what potentials and what use I could make out of it.
     
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    Omg! You're my emotional twin xD.
    I think you're still INFJ just very unemotional and unispired.
     
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    First off, you don't have to be the same person always. Humans are not one dimensional, much more than type. So, whether or not you're INFj doesn't really matter as much as what's happening in your life atm. Take some time, sort out what's happening. Give yourself some time to flesh it out. You don't need to be one thing or another. Just be. Sounds like it's one of those times when you're in a slump. Give yourself time to figure it out.
     
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    Okay let's pretend my initial post wasn't filled with depression like symptoms and that I'm actually fine. I, on a deep level, don't feel like an INFJ. I'm only seeing me, for myself and I... I don't know. I just need someone to affirm it for me. I can't really step outside and see myself any more because I don't know what or who I am. Shadowing and ESTP ramblings further muddy the water. I'm not sure if this is an type thing or a... me thing.
     
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    Apart from ESTP, what other types do you identify with?
     
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    INFJ is just a stereotype. Don't try to squeeze yourself in. Everyone here is a bit different depending on race, gender, location, age, life's ups & downs, political views and a million of other things.

    From your post it seems like you're depressed or going through a life's crisis. Things can be flaky and out of perspective during those times. Eventually you will find yourself once again.
     
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    I dunno about types but sensing is starting to seem more and more attractive and natural to me. But if I put that in the equation then I look at IS's and I don't relate. I wonder about my introversion too. If I completely lacked self-consciousness and loved people and myself, I'd wanna be around people all the time. I may not be introverted just socially avoidant because I associate negative events and emotions with socialising.

    I also enjoy conflict more often than I should. Especially physical. Theres something dangerous about it and primal. Hurting myself or others seems exhilarating. Which scares me because that's against my morals.
     
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    I'm fine.
     
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    First of all, I definitely would say that you are an INFJ. As Indigosensor said, reading your post conforms it even more. The very fact that you are doubting it actually conforms it. Either way, this MBTI shouldn't control you life, it is what it is, and that INFJ description isn't something that you need to live up to. Besides, no one matches the profile perfectly. You are fare more complex as a person than what fits on a one page type description.

    Okay I won't talk about depression. But couldn't it just be that changes in your life, or stress, are causing you to behave differently? These are all things that are influencing you subconsciously. Because you clearly stated that there is a difference with before, I would suspect that this is temporary thing. I'm saying this because I recognise it myself. These factors often cause me to get into an 'identity crisis', or whatever you'd like to call it, like the one you seem to go through.
     
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  13. The Jester

    Well, I don't want to analyze you, nor there is any theory behind anything what I'm going to say, it's just pseudo-psychology.

    Could it be that it's just a sort of defensive mechanism that you put up?
    You start to feel less and care less about your environment, because if you let
    these emotions in, they might control you.
    I think that's how I've been personally, and I'm sorry if this doesn't relate to you.
    But I thought it somehow did, because what you're describing is somewhat similar
    to my situation, althought you might be a little more extremer.

    Larry, I think you're a cool guy, and it doesn't matter what type you are.
     
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    Sounds like you're an INFJ who's had their world turned upside down.

    Sometimes, the world has a way of proving the core of our Fe to be very very wrong. When Fe takes a big hit, the resulting lack of idealism is common. I've been going through it for the past two years, and I'm just now beginning to heal - and my idealism is just now starting to grow back, this time in ways that adapt and allow for the harsh realities that originally broke it.

    You'll heal. It just takes time.
     
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    I dunno, Yield. There are a lot of people on the forums that I get the sense are really INFP's and don't know it. But with you, I most definitely sense that you're one of the true "protectors." Every post that I've seen you author.... well, my intuition just tingles with an INFJ vibe.

    To be honest, I don't believe for a second that you don't care about other people, or that you don't count relationships as important. But even if you're feeling this way now, these things that you've outlined about yourself do not negate your INFJness... you can still be an INFJ without identifying with those things.

    But hey, MBTI is different things to different people. For some people it's a sense of identity; for others, it's a rough outline. If you're not getting what you're looking for, or don't really feel right with your typology, maybe it's just time to take an alternative approach. Maybe you don't have to worry so much about figuring out your type anymore. Maybe you're just prepared to discover who you are without the expectations of typology.


    Either way, it does sound like you're going through a tough time now. I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully things will look up soon.
     
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    Is it inconceivable to think outside of the INFJ box? To say that "Okay, so if you're not an infj then..."?

    Like what?

    Yeah, know any?
     
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  17. The Jester

    I wouldn't take it personal, it's late (also for Yield, it's like midnight) and he's been under a lot of stress.
    I won't speak for him now, but I think that most of the people here appreciate your advice.

    Well, I think it's a bit arrogant of me to come and say that in your thread Yield, I'm sorry if this bothered you *tips hat*
     
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    Heh, against what the word means, when I see your username "Yield", I picture it as a sword. The image suits you.
     
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    No worries mate. Thanks.
     
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    Sometimes Shai.... I think you're trying to be nice to me.
     
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