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Which Feeler type is the least feel-y

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  1. ISFJ

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    28.6%
  2. ESFJ

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  3. ESFP

    9 vote(s)
    42.9%
  4. ISFP

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%
  5. ENFP

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    0.0%
  6. INFP

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    0.0%
  7. ENFJ

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  8. INFJ

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    This is basically what I was trying to solve for
     

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    Intensity
    Degree in which one relies on and or is sensitive to feelings and or emotions. Depth and breadth is fine as a proxy

    Messiness
    Degree in which one expresses and creates "drama." I do think messiness could be a function of an individual's temperament and maturity; however, I am speculating that preference for cognitive functions influence results
     
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    Could probably take Hos' depth/breadth data and index it and combine it with and index of ennegram type prevalence

    For example, % of types that end up in more "dramatic" or "expressive" enneagrams like 4 and 7

    That'd solve it in my mind for now
     
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    I used Enneagram for analysis. This site has the % prevalence of each enneagram type per MBTI type:
    https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/01/mbti-and-the-enneagram-2/

    For example, it will show what % of all INFJs are in each Enneagram type

    After looking at the data, it appears that the two highest feeling Enneagram categories are 2 and 4. While these types are the highest "feelings" categories, they show them in different ways. Here are definitions for types 2 and 4 are:

    Enneagram 2: The Helper
    The Caring, Interpersonal Type:
    Generous, Demonstrative, People-Pleasing, and Possessive


    Twos are empathetic, sincere, and warm-hearted. They are friendly, generous, and self-sacrificing, but can also be sentimental, flattering, and people-pleasing. They are well-meaning and driven to be close to others, but can slip into doing things for others in order to be needed. They typically have problems with possessiveness and with acknowledging their own needs. At their Best: unselfish and altruistic, they have unconditional love for others

    Enneagram 4: The Individualist
    The Sensitive, Introspective Type:
    Expressive, Dramatic, Self-Absorbed, and Temperamental


    Fours are self-aware, sensitive, and reserved. They are emotionally honest, creative, and personal, but can also be moody and self-conscious. Withholding themselves from others due to feeling vulnerable and defective, they can also feel disdainful and exempt from ordinary ways of living. They typically have problems with melancholy, self-indulgence, and self-pity. At their Best: inspired and highly creative, they are able to renew themselves and transform their experiences

    From here, I indexed each "feeling" MBTI relative to each other on both dimensions. A value of 1 indicates average, below one is lower than the average in terms of prevalence, and above one is heavily prevalent in that type

    Screenshot 1 shows the result

    Here are the observations:
    --The lowest feeling types are: ESFP, ISFJ, ENFP and ISFP
    --The only two types that are below average on both Enneagram 2 and 4 are ISFJ and ENFP
    --3/4 lowest feelers are sensors--I'd chalk that up to the sensitivity of N types
    --3/4 lowest feelers are perceivers--I'd chalk that up to stubbornness of J types
    --50/50 as to whether someone is introverted or extroverted

    Since I am agnostic to a feelings preference of 2 or 4, I took the average of the two scores and indexed them relative to the average of all types for a "Intensity Index"

    Screenshot 2 shows the result

    Here are the observations:
    --ISFP has the lowest average feelings score using both dimensions followed by ESFP, ISFJ
    --The lowest three feelers are all sensors
    --Only one of top three lowest feelers is below average on both dimensions: ISFJ
    --INFJ is literally the average (1.01) when using both dimensions

    Next...

    I want to come up with a proxy for messiness, and I am still playing with that one
     

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    I can already tell you with messiness that the top two based on other metrics I've seen that could be proxies for stability, DSM, etc. that ISFJ and ESFP are going to be the top two

    Slight edge for ISFJ

    Individual basis could be different of course, but on average

    Maybe ESFP and ISFJ are the golden pair...
     
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    "Messiness" is a bit biased and leaning slightly towards offensive regarding type 4 and 7. Not objective description of those types. Enneagran type for is "individualistic" or even "personal" but "messy"? Now type 8 on the other hand... :)
     
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