[ENTJ] Type Me: A Challenge

I might try and plumb the forum for some quotes later, but in the meantime I'll just say: ENTJ!

In your posts your most visible functions are Te and Se, but Ni is implied throughout as well. Introverted feeling comes across in your poetry, as well as when you're tipsy.

You want to shape and utilise your environment (Te) over the long term (Ni) to attain status (Se) and realise your goal to solve the world's ills (Fi).

TeNiSeFi.

And quite a healthy one, I should say.

 

Smh,

To address the question of Deciding if you're ENTJ, or ENFJ based on your post history ... I think your heart has gone soft on us Emporer Pin. ♡

 

Where is Pinny's Fe though?

 

I'll post a quote when I come across one.
I suck at typing, but these are my impressions of you:

There must be hundreds of posts here where you talk about your ambitions and you have a plan. Maybe that's just stereotypically ENTJ. But you've got the "TJ ten year plan down lol." You also seem very principled or to have strong convictions that guide you. I just always got an Fi vibe from you.

But where maybe you seem to not fit is you are very emotionally mature for someone so young (I'm guessing early 20s? Just based on some things I've gleaned that you shared.) I'm sure you could wreck people in an argument or debate because you're obviously very intelligent, but even when someone has been rude to you, you seem to know you're better off not engaging like that or that it's not worth it. You are quick to disarm tension like that.. but I don't think that necessarily makes you a feeler. So I would agree with @Ren. Likely a well developed ENTJ.

 

Yeah, that's something that's always struck me, too. If anything I think it's the surest sign of Te-domness.

 

Think outside the box @Ren ❤ The Emporer is human first, ENTJ methodical second.

 

@Pin I'd have gone with the usual if I was just going cold at it. The only way I think you could be other than already widely recognised is if you are presenting a very well crafted persona that you are using to drive your ambitions. Maybe the amplified way you project your life plan in the forum is a kind of psychological war dance that allows you to put on the head-dress of a type that fits most closely where you want to direct yourself. This isn't as impossible as it sounds because one of the most effective senior planning managers I knew was as extreme a perceiver as I've come across - but he could put on the clothes of detailed planning and structuring when he needed to. His strength was that he wasn't locked in to his plan but could adapt them without any fuss in the face of the unexpected, but he was much older than you are.

What I see in the way you come across here in the forum is that you have very strong inner values and these are very important to you in how you follow your life plan. You are very smooth and practiced in the way you use these too, there's none of the clumsiness and inappropriateness that I'd expect with inferior feeling.

This is why I've suggested an alternative type, ENTP, as a straw man to play with, just to stretch the boundaries a bit.

 

Lol there’s a lot of range within each type so don’t get blindsided by a particular icon.

But this is just to try and shake the bottle a bit to see if it falls out differently. I do think you should pay attention to your values when thinking about type - there's competent feeling attached to them.

 

I agree, but maybe he is just a humane ENTJ?

 

ENTP is an interesting suggestion. I think that Pin would have given us a glimpse of his Ti if he was one, though.

 

It’s hard to see a clear alternative to the one we all know and love - inferior Fi is the main objection. Tertiary Fi would make sense but that means I not E which doesn’t.

 

Yes, that's the well trodden path and it's hard to see a realistic alternative. My thoughts were a bit of perturbation testing around values to see if it went anywhere. I can't see INTJ for example - he's not at all like the ones I know and introvert is definitely wrong . ENTP is a way to let in some tertiary F but it's the wrong way up on everything really.

 

Isn't that an ENFJ?

 

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I'm a big fan of @Pin's poetry.

 

Me too.

I'm a big fan of @Pin.