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[PAX] The Impeachment of Donald J. Trump

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    yep go after social security and medicare. . that's a winning strategy. .let's see how stupid the gop really is. .
     
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    Very dumb.
    Same with disability - the current administration wants to impose new rules making it even more difficult to get and maintain.
    In case anyone thinks it's easy - they wouldn't have lawyers that specialize in helping people who are wrongfully denied.
    Reagan started to indiscriminately kick people out of SSDI back in the 80's until the resulting suicides caused too much public outcry and they rescinded their shitty policy.
    About to repeat that whole mess too.
    It was cuts like this that caused the Republican healthcare bill to fail - and they don't have both houses anymore to boot.
     
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    Need to go after children. Limit each person to two children....all races. Divorce would make no change: had your two? Can't have another. That would help cut a lot of Federal spending. China had it's one child era. Some groups rape the Feds with an onslought of children, then ask for funds to help raise them. No more tax breaks for anything more than two...ever. Darn it: can't grow my voter base that way.
     
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    Some are doing this. Others are standing up for what is best overall for the country as a whole.
    Though Pelosi acted out childishly ripping up Trumps speech, her bottom line really exists in what is in the best interest of her vision of Our Country as a whole, same as Trump. So who is right in their Patriotism view point?
    The 'running' of a counrty doesn't go on personal motive nor opinion, it is collective decision making that gets the job done. This is a stout reasoning why I can't get behind Trump, it's not his country to move forward in his personal directions, it's Ours.

    Selfish. Too much individual greed has been cloaked with collective prosperity. We as a country pride ourselves on freedom and democracy---more rightly stated as greed and hypocrisy----the rich get richer while the working folk barely get by. They after all are the money makers to feed the establishment, and house the poor.

    No. This is too indiviualistic the way it's interpreted. If we have to be accountable for our mess ups so should those at the top.

    Yes, much of the time. Yet, there is a vast difference between choosing to remain quiet and being forciblely shut up.

    Just my 2 cents. ;)
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    We as a whole. We as a whole should never expect our leaders to do everything themselves. Maybe this should have been addressed differently. Forgive my lack of time.
     
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    Do you mean like the people of Wuhan?
     
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    No. I've seen several video interviews that have this whole WC virus breakout with too many perspectives. I mean did it really start there or was it the perfect Petri dish? I think the residents are just as baffled while those in charge aren't talking.
     
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    Exactly, WE.
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    Hmm.... put it in movie form: Script writer, add in a shirtless dude, a long, near-naked woman or two, and some guns and maybe people would start to understand.

    We might at least be able to get Trump to watch it.
     
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    Too many extroverts in that^^^
    Yet, I don't disagree.
     
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    frankly, our democracy no longer exists. we have no effective government, but a crime syndicate taking our taxes for their own use. It is high time we, the people took to the streets and put an end to this mockery and take our country back. the trump cult is loud, but few, compared to the real American.
     
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    Funny, didn't Trump say our economy was the most amazing best ever!!!?


    Well which is it?
    I guess the awesome booming economy is only for the already rich to profit from alone.
    While the rest of us live in "serious economic conditions".
    Trump has a long history of not paying people for the hard work they've done.
    Asshole.

    Please vote!

    Edit - Millennials of voting age have surpassed the Boomers.
    The direction and future of the country is yours to take if you get out there and do it!
     
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    Gen. Kelly weighs in on President's "perfect call"
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    President Bone-spurs has implied he wants to strip Vindman of his service too, purple heart and all.

    But yes...the Medal of Freedom goes to....
    :fuming:
     
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    Looks like Trump is Pardoning the Swamp.
    Funny how several are donors to his political campaign.
    Meanwhile 2000+ former DOJ prosecutors and officials have called on Barr to resign.
    I guess Susan Collins was right - Trump learned his lesson - he can break countless laws and be protected - including retribution against impeachment witnesses.
    Which is illegal BTW.
    Pretty awesome flaming death of democracy.
     
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    Anyone who thinks this president can't really do lasting damage to the US if he gets re-elected should take note of his current actions regarding the Department of Justice. He is right is saying he is the chief law enforcement officer in that as the executive of the executive branch the authority invested in the Attorney General stems from the president. We as a nation have rationally recognized that there needs to be a separation of power between law enforcement and political expediency. But the writers of the constitution did not necessarily see it that way. They saw the Senate (which they envisioned as a office held by men appointed states' legislatures) as a real check on the Executive's power. But the Senate is now a creature of political parties. The writers of the constitution vastly underestimated the powers of political parties. This is an avenue, which if pursued aspires to a fascist state.

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    Fascinating how Trump seemingly knows the ins and outs of his position in regards to the law, obviously putting expensive legal advisors on the case to help him hash out how to abuse his power, meanwhile he can't grasp the basics of human rights.
     
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    Trump is such a law-abiding....hahahah...can't even type it as a joke.
    More quid pro quo-ing.
    I'll just leave this here before I have to run...

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange alleges that Trump
    offered him a pardon if he denied that Russia hacked the DNC
    https://www.businessinsider.com/julian-assange-trial-offered-pardon-deny-russia-2016-dnc-hack-2020-2

    Roger Stone reportedly pushed hard for Trump to
    preemptively pardon WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
    https://www.businessinsider.com/rog...n-assange-trump-pardon-mueller-russia-2018-10
     
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    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me
     
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    Agreed.

    That said, we are living in the Tyranny of the majority. Or at least the tyranny of the majority as filtered through the electoral college. And in some states there is Tyranny of the majority.

    Not exclusive to the Right though, I've had numerous conversations shut down by Left Wing Woke Extremists as well.

    Extremists of all colours dislike Science as it conflicts with their ideology...

    As I can't vote I'm just keeping my head down, protecting my family and waiting for a chance for sanity to resume.
     
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