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Oprah for President

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For all you American Progressives who think an Oprah presidency would be great, think twice about it.

Read this article: https://slate.com/health-and-scienc...al-pseudoscientific-american-fantasyland.html

Her role in promoting irrational pseudo science needs to be understood. Do you really want another president who has no understanding of the mechanics of government or the law? Do you want another president who promotes theories divorced from rationality?

There are some ways in which she would be an improvement over Trump, practically any candidate would be improvement.

Its worth thinking about.
 
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Who Progressives really want.

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But what if we all get a new car?

No I wouldn't want that, specifically speaking about the pseudo-science. From what little I know (see above) she exhibits good traits such as compassion and tenacity, but I don't really know anything about her beliefs or her true self. I am in the dark about her capabilities to handle complicated issues. Could you imagine her approving a SEAL raid or a drone strike? "You get a strike, and you get a strike, and everybody gets a drone strike!"

I don't know how she would adapt when confronted with real-world situations such as initiating a chain of events that would result in possible civilian casualties. I suppose I have a certain amount of faith that people would give credence to expert advisors, but lately that faith has been shaken. But hey, I guess that's what the elections and campaigns would be there to shed light upon right?
 
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I respectfully disagree. Oprah has the unique charisma that can transform the U.S.A from a Federation to a Unitary State.
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How so? What about her television persona would be transformative for the US in people's best interests?

Kinda had it up to infinity with billionaires thinking that they can be the president just because they are billionaires (TV personalities). No. Do the work. Represent a constituency and gain that experience. Presidents should represent the entire country. I'm not interested in anyone running who has no experience actually representing people's social and economic interests.

What does Oprah know about not being able to afford housing or healthcare? Or being able to repay student loans? Or what it's like for retirees or the disabled to get by? I think she is totally out of touch with the needs of every day people. Being elected to congress might not remedy that but at least she would be expected to interact with constituents and address local issues. How much do you think she interacts with everyday Americans who aren't super rich right now?
 
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If people can vote a shithole cheeto into office, literally anything is an improvement
 
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If people can vote a shithole cheeto into office, literally anything is an improvement
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Oh Oprah would definitely be an improvement.
A plunger somewhere in a bathroom of The White House would be an improvement to Trump. Doesn't mean either are qualified. Just means Trump is grossly unqualified.
 
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How so? What about her television persona would be transformative for the US in people's best interests?

Kinda had it up to infinity with billionaires thinking that they can be the president just because they are billionaires (TV personalities). No. Do the work. Represent a constituency and gain that experience. Presidents should represent the entire country. I'm not interested in anyone running who has no experience actually representing people's social and economic interests.

What does Oprah know about not being able to afford housing or healthcare? Or being able to repay student loans? Or what it's like for retirees or the disabled to get by? I think she is totally out of touch with the needs of every day people. Being elected to congress might not remedy that but at least she would be expected to interact with constituents and address local issues. How much do you think she interacts with everyday Americans who aren't super rich right now?
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Oprah is skilled at using the media. With enough positive coverage, the public can be swayed toward her legislative goals (i.e goals that experts determine for her).
 
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acd said:
money signifies virtue and celebrity makes you an expert on any subject you decide to spout off about.
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It's true
 
Pin said:
Oprah is skilled at using the media. With enough positive coverage, the public can be swayed toward her legislative goals (i.e goals that experts determine for her).
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The public are not morons who need to be fooled into following an agenda. People should be informed and participate by voting--in every election. People should have a say-- we shouldn't just go along with our leaders. We should be electing people who represent our interests.

Oprah has no clue.
 
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acd said:
Not really democratic. The public are not morons who need to be fooled into following an agenda. People should be informed and participate by voting--in every election. People should have a say-- we shouldn't just go along with our leaders. We should be electing people who represent our interests.
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The people should elect people who represent their interests, however, we generally don't and often can't. This is because we are not experts on what good government entails. For this to change, government power needs to first be concentrated at the national level. An accurately informed populace can be ensured through a government that is essentially accountable to us all.
 
I think we need to let another bull into the china shop and maybe some pieces of the china that gets broken or that was broken by the first bull will be stomped together to form china that’s more valuable than the original china. That’s what the first bull was supposed to do but maybe sometimes you need 2 or more bulls.
 
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I remember this edition I saw of Morrison's "The Bluest Eye" with an "Oprah's Book Club" sticker on it. (I had previously read the book at this time). I was curious about the sticker and tried to remove it but I couldn't and I discovered that it was inside the cover, it was part of the cover design. I was mystified. So far as I know, Oprah Winfrey is a journalist with a background in communications. I have never grasped what communications is - is it media studies, is it advertising & PR? I really have no idea, but I know it's not literature.
 
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invisible said:
I remember this edition I saw of Morrison's "The Bluest Eye" with an "Oprah's Book Club" sticker on it. (I had previously read the book at this time). I was curious about the sticker and tried to remove it but I couldn't and I discovered that it was inside the cover, it was part of the cover design. I was mystified. So far as I know, Oprah Winfrey is a journalist with a background in communications. I have never grasped what communications is - is it media studies, is it advertising & PR? I really have no idea, but I know it's not literature.
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Sorry, I think my post was maybe a bit obtuse or sarcastic, so I will add a bit of clarification about what I meant. I don't think it's a very good idea to support someone who claims to be able to perform some function for which they possess no legitimate expertise. The person is a fraud, a charlatan. I said this about Trump and I would say it about Oprah or any other person who runs for office without having any education in law or any experience in holding office. Screw off and mind your own business, sickeningly wealthy celebrity con artists.
 
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No.
Oprah would make a good repeat advisor. Acting out behind the scenes as she did for the 8 years prior to Trump gaining office.

When something isn't working be it animal, mineral, or mechanical we should re-adress the owners/users manual...if there is one, if not, then develop a best practices book of appropriate and inappropriate ways to proceed and implement them, adjusting accordingly, until a users manual becomes written guidelines for all citizenry to follow...

Oh, wait, we have one of those in place and it's called:

The Constitution of the United States and, is the central instrument of American government and the supreme law of the land. For over 200 years it has guided the evolution of governmental institutions and has provided the basis for political stability, individual freedom, economic growth, and social progress.
http://countrystudies.us/united-states/government-2.htm

This owners manual has been held by the American people for 242 years, that's a long time. In it, it states that We the People elect our representatives, (who we believe will vote in the direction we would like, as well as in our best interest), and also states that in doing so, We the People run the government, the government, aka elected representatives, does not run us.

Bottomline. We will not get each individual need met, we can however get the collective needs met, aja get close (do not confuse with Socialism because personal views would cause an avalanche;)).

We as in "We The People" should be examining the integrity and character of our candidate and not soley lob our vote based on what they know about a system, or branch, of government, rather what do they know of all three and the impact of each on each individual citizen...after all if history does not escape me, there is a Judicial, Legislative, Executive and Educational branch of American government. Perhaps we should be reminded of such, lest We The People forget.

***edited with disclaimer it is an opinion only. No offense intended to OP or readers. :)
 
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