Old Soul Facet

[JennyDaniella]

Hello everyone.

Now, we have all heard the familiar characteristic that INFJs in particular are technically old souls. We carry this air of maturity and wisdom and tend to feel older than our chronological age---which is not surprising since we are exceptionally good at either counseling others, being drawn to profound philosophical ideas/logic, spirituality and personal growth, and we tend to be very intuitive and empathetic beings.

Personally, while I do strongly feel that INFJs (most, not all) are indeed very old souls, I do think it is a bit silly to categorize INFJs as the only MBTI type with the old soul characteristic---as I know some friends who are different types that I consider wiser than their age as well.

Myself, I do technically consider myself as an old soul, and have had many people comment on my maturity and were surprised on how wise I am for my age. Some things that many people my age do for fun I don't find appealing nor interesting, I am 23 years old by the way---so I am quite fairly young. I will say this though, I do carry some childlike characteristics; but I think it is that INFJ aspect of having that excitement and wonder when we learn something new or we are doing something we rather deeply enjoy.

I consider myself as a "childish grandma" lol.

But anyways, from reading many comments and posts on this forum, there is definitely many people on here who do possess that old soul- wisdom characteristic that is quite fairly typical of the type.

So, how many of you consider yourself as an old soul, and how long have you consistently been considered "mature" for your age throughout your life?

And for those who are not INFJs, do you feel as if you are an old soul as well?

 

[Wyote]

My old soul died, was reborn and got old again. A few times at least.

 

[noisebloom]

w/e old lady I'm not gonna help u cross the street

 

[Sandie33]

a "childish grandma"

Welcome to the pack

So, how many of you consider yourself as an old soul, and how long have you consistently been considered "mature" for your age throughout your life?

Yes, definately. Much of my family and friends say I've always been "older than my years". Far too many of my friends in life were much older than me, and many of them are gone now. It's difficult to find replacements. I do say often that some of the younger folks have more mature qualities because of their personal ideals and choices in life, especially those that recognise and reject the material mindsets of the Age. The environment a child is reared in can assist with a more developed youth as well and lend to their appearance of Old Soul wisdom.

There is some great information in the esoteric and occult communities regarding soul and soul growth. The joy of experiencing disscussion of soul out in society is refreshing. I'm in my granny years, and talks like these were hush-hushed for fear of "normal" folks thinking we were odd, possessed, or lacking sense in some way. I think this is why a cloak of secrecy has always surrounded discussions of soul and soul development unless it is soaked in religious dogmas.

Often, depending on a person's beliefs, an Old Soul is one that has incarnated many times, in comparisson, an Infant Soul is a newbie . Then there is the arguement that the individual is born into Infant Soul and moves up the ranks of Young, Mature, and Old through their lifetime and that's a wrap at that point...but, that arguement doesn't explain children of 4 or 5 who philosophize and relate like 100 year old men and women ?!? :unsure:

As an example, Jesus, (as well as other Great Teachers), taught his diciples about occultism and the mysteries of Soul Spirituality. Then, during the Age of the Roman Empire and take over of Babylonia, The Crusades, 100's Year War etc, Spiritual teachings were being erradicated and burned at the stake literally.

Here are a few websites that make the arguement tegarding Jesus and his connections to Spiritual Occultism.

https://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/hpb-sio/sio-eso1.htm
http://hpb.narod.ru/OccultTeachingsOfTheChristJR.html
http://ascendedmasteranswers.com/religion/christianity-today/354-was-jesus-an-occult-teacher

Also, Luna & Sol gives a wonderfilled rundown of Old Soul theory. https://lonerwolf.com/about/

:aum: :biggrin:

 

[JennyDaniella]

Far too many of my friends in life were much older than me

Oh how I relate to this! I have a good portion of friends who I get along with so well--- even better than a lot of people who are my age--- and they are well either into their 30s, 40s and 50s! It is the funniest thing.

I always used to tell my mom that I was born into the wrong generation---how I didn't really enjoy the current music, fads, or rage of social media, etc etc. And I still strongly feel this way.

There is some great information in the esoteric and occult communities regarding soul and soul growth. The joy of experiencing disscussion of soul out in society is refreshing. I'm in my granny years, and talks like these were hush-hushed for fear of "normal" folks thinking we were odd, possessed, or lacking sense in some way. I think this is why a cloak of secrecy has always surrounded discussions of soul and soul development unless it is soaked in religious dogmas.

Wow, I never knew that the concept of soul and soul growth were considered something abnormal in society before. It's interesting how things have changed over time!

 

[Midnight Harlequin]

So, if you believe in old souls... does that mean you believe in reincarnation?

 

[Reason]

I always used to tell my mom that I was born into the wrong generation---how I didn't really enjoy the current music, fads, or rage of social media, etc etc. And I still strongly feel this way.

Possibly because most current day music, fads, and social media sites are garbage.

Ironic, that people with the good taste to avoid such shlock have to feel isolated.

 

[JennyDaniella]

So, if you believe in old souls... does that mean you believe in reincarnation?

In beliefs, old souls and reincarnation go hand in hand. Old souls are those who have gone through many past lives, and each life is considered a stepping stone for lessons to be learned and maturity to be gained over time. I feel reincarnation could be a continuous journey that takes a soul to learn essential inner core values and to discover what it truly means to be a human being.

However, do I personally believe in reincarnation? Hmmmm, I honestly don't know. I am undecided. I am open-minded to the idea though.

 

[JennyDaniella]

Possibly because most current day music, fads, and social media sites are garbage.

Ironic, that people with the good taste to avoid such shlock have to feel isolated.

So true unfortunately...

 

[Midnight Harlequin]

In beliefs, old souls and reincarnation go hand in hand. Old souls are those who have gone through many past lives, and each life is considered a stepping stone for lessons to be learned and maturity to be gained over time. I feel reincarnation could be a continuous journey that takes a soul to learn essential inner core values and to discover what it truly means to be a human being.

However, do I personally believe in reincarnation? Hmmmm, I honestly don't know. I am undecided. I am open-minded to the idea though.

"Yes, I was leading the witness your honor..."

Can you really believe your an old soul without belief in reincarnation?

From my studies in religion and all associated things... I believe we are here for 3 reasons to advance us on our path by completing our soul's mission, to learn the universal truth and when you learn the universal truth to follow that path to it's conclusion. Everyone is on a different path and sees things in a different way... Reincarnation, is a cosmic school, where you go until you graduate (Universal law as above so below)

 

[JennyDaniella]

Can you really believe your an old soul without belief in reincarnation?

I think you can believe in old souls without believing in reincarnation. To bring in some realistic perspectives in and put aside any spiritual/religious beliefs, maturity and wisdom are traits that some people can have pretty early on depending on experiences with childhood, environment, etc etc. A lot of factors can go into it. But these are just all possibilities, don’t take my word for it.

Thing is, we as human beings will never deeply know the complexities of the soul.


Your perspective regarding reincarnation is very plausible. With souls, there are many belief systems and different views on the subject, I don’t think we will ever know exactly what the whole point behind reincarnation is. Nonetheless though, your side of it is agreeable.

 

[Midnight Harlequin]

I think you can believe in old souls without believing in reincarnation. To bring in some realistic perspectives in and put aside any spiritual/religious beliefs, maturity and wisdom are traits that some people can have pretty early on depending on experiences with childhood, environment, etc etc. A lot of factors can go into it. But these are just all possibilities, don’t take my word for it.

Thing is, we as human beings will never deeply know the complexities of the soul.


Your perspective regarding reincarnation is very plausible. With souls, there are many belief systems and different views on the subject, I don’t think we will ever know exactly what the whole point behind reincarnation is. Nonetheless though, your side of it is agreeable.

Okay... well.. other then ineffable qualities of the soul where would old come from? See I think in the past we were well aware of the soul and its idiosyncrasies and we wrote them down so as to not forget... but we forgot....

 

[Pin]

I was told today that I was an old-soul.

 

[Deleted member 16771]

Okay... well.. other then ineffable qualities of the soul where would old come from? See I think in the past we were well aware of the soul and its idiosyncrasies and we wrote them down so as to not forget... but we forgot....

I wonder if being around older people a lot during developmental years has anything to do with it.

E.g. Single child with older parent/s simply adapts to their environment by adopting (being socialised into) thought and speech patterns typical of more mature people.

So I ask you, how many of you claiming to have an 'old soul' had older parents? Just an idea, I'm not terribly attached to it, but my mum was 44 when she had me, and consequently I was always around much older relations, &c.

 

[Sandie33]

where would old come from

"Old" being a human attribution put to something we're unable to understand/compromise otherwise(?)

Meaning similar to when we see an animal on TV...for instance a Grizzly in its habitat, we think, "oh, how cute, he is rubbing his tummy and smiling he must be happy", in reality, no, he is digesting 2 cameramen he recently ate, ,

all kidding aside...we attribute what we know to what we don't understand in the effort to self-soothe and make ourselves comfortable.

There really is no right-wrong answer we believe what we do until evidence shows up to cause us to change our view. ♡

 

[Sandie33]

I wonder if being around older people a lot during developmental years has anything to do with it.

E.g. Single child with older parent/s simply adapts to their environment by adopting (being socialised into) thought and speech patterns typical of more mature people.

So I ask you, how many of you claiming to have an 'old soul' had older parents? Just an idea, I'm not terribly attached to it, but my mum was 44 when she had me, and consequently I was always around much older relations, &c.

Yes, but, the arguement to that is having older parents with lesser development and the child still grows to exibit a deeper maturity.

 

[noisebloom]

Possibly because most Sepals' music, fads, and social media sites are garbage.

@socks

:sad::teary:

 

[socks]

@socks

:sad::teary:

To be fair, I’m 90% garbage.

 

[Emanuel Goldstein]

To be fair, I’m 90% garbage.

Only when 50% of you is lost in the dryer...

 

[Skarekrow]

Hmmmm...
Been told that a few times.
Haven’t done much past life investigating on myself...don’t feel the need I guess?
I kind of don’t really look at time linearly so much anymore...so old/young...first time/last time reincarnated, etc...I don’t think actually applies like most think it does...imho.
I believe we are given a choice to reincarnate or not...interestingly many times the kids who remember past lives clearly often die young and unexpectedly or violently (which could either mean lots of things - perhaps they felt they didn’t get to live a full life, perhaps they just remember because it was violent/unexpected?, or maybe it means none of those things).
Not to mention the idea of multiple lives being lived at once - or also all timelines existing at once - the possibility of a former life on another planet is not so far out there past the current subject.
There are those who identify as such as well.
I’ve had very vidid dreams that seem more like a memory of another time/place on several occasions - but I’m not assuming that is what they were.
Quite often...some days to the point it becomes annoying...I get constant deja vu...like every 5 mins....always accompanied by snippets of these memories of forgotten dreams that are somehow more.
That is the best I can explain it.
When studying reincarnation it is interesting to note that in children who supposedly remember their past lives...those who came from/were reborn into those certain cultures that believe in reincarnation such as India - the turn around time from death to birth is often much shorter than the western counterparts who remember past lives.
I believe it was 1-3 years for the believer group and 4-7 years for the non.
An interesting discrepancy that also could mean all kinds of speculative things.
Many of you don’t know that my Son who is now 14 became my step-son at age 2...he and his mother (now my ex-wife thank god) are from Russia (*sigh* no she wasn’t mail-order...I wouldn’t mail-order one with a kid now would I?).
The moment he and I met for the first time while I was visiting Russia...he knew me...he got this sly smile on his face.
I could never quite place it until a few years later...but he knew me...I believe he knew I was going to be his Dad from sometime before this physical plane.
He kept looking up at me and smiling this smile.
They lived literally on the opposite side of the Earth from me...12 hour difference...in the Ural mountains.
I have often felt that he and I have some kind of karmic former connection, possibly from a past life....idk.
I have it in my head that we killed each other in one of the great wars...and so now we are here to love one another...but where that idea has sprung I also don’t know...could just be my imaginings.
I do know that I have never been interested in the same shit kids my own age were...it just didn’t interest me as it did them...such as how I listened to the oldies station as a child and didn’t like most of the new music.
Anyhow...done with that ramble...