My Schizotypal Personality

I think of the INFJ typology as being a separate (and dissimilar) construct from a schizotypal personality. Assuming you're referring to schizotypal personality as conceptualized by Theodore Millon, I see the "autistic cognitive style" component as being at odds with the generally empathetic and socially perceptive nature of the INFJ. Additionally, I would consider the bizarre behaviors and mannerisms associated with a schizotypal personality as being extraneous to the INFJ.
 
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I can relate to a lot of your blog. It is very interesting, and I hope to find some time later to elaborate.
 
Whiskers said:
I think of the INFJ typology as being a separate (and dissimilar) construct from a schizotypal personality. Assuming you're referring to schizotypal personality as conceptualized by Theodore Millon, I see the "autistic cognitive style" component as being at odds with the generally empathetic and socially perceptive nature of the INFJ. Additionally, I would consider the bizarre behaviors and mannerisms associated with a schizotypal personality as being extraneous to the INFJ.
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One of the problems in classifying the schizotypal personality is the people doing the classifying. They don't like us because of our psychic abilities and this has lead to some rather bizarre ways of describing us. In other words, they are skeptics and are desperate to pathologize our personality in order to avoid the conclusion that sane people believe that they are psychic.

A much better job was done by David Ritchey, who wrote about us in the book: The H.I.S.S. of the A.S.P. He does not pathologize it and pretty much nails the characteristics, including some stuff I had never considered.
 
Craig Weiler said:
"I'm not sure I"m psychic" I hear that a lot. But one of the trademarks of an INFJ is that they take psychic ability for granted. Chances are, you do it far more than you realize, it just doesn't register as psychic stuff because you're not using a crystal ball.
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Eh maybe...
I saw a high school guy pull out in front of me and a thought flashes through my head that he'd get in an accident soon. Within a week he did. I consider that more of an observation that he was a risky and aggressive driver than anything else.
I wrote a story for my friend about her meeting her prince charming in a coffee shop while she was running behind one day. That month she picked up 8 coffees and was running behind so the guy behind the counter helped her carry them out to the car. That one I consider a mere coincidence.
Plus there's the fact that before I go and have a conversation with someone, I think about EVERY possible outcome. So it's not as if I'm "knowing" these things ahead of time. It's just one guess out of many.
-looks skeptical- I'm not sure I even believ in this stuff. Then again, foreshadowing dreams have happened to people I respect... So I must concede there's something there...
 
A+ read.

I've plunged myself into the new age realm, and have been able to do things alot of people would consider crazy. I for example, were able to send messages via telepathy to friends. And it could propably all just be my imagination, or a lucky coincidence, or they just lied to me about hearing the message and were somehow able to guess it correctly. I can see auras around people, things other people don't seem able to, even if I tell them how, they seem unable to. Once, I saw a new age girl, who did a read on me. The first thing she said "I don't need to tell you anything. You already know it all. You're a magician."

I was surprised, because by that time I had left most of the new age world behind me. But she was able to read and see my soul. And I could see hers too. It was an instant connection, though we never talked again. And when people around me are hurting, I try to transfer energy, reiki, to them, to help them. Then I ask them if they feel better, just a few minutes after they told me, and some say "Yeah, suddenly I feel much better. O.O"

It could still just be the fact that I talked to them. I'm not saying I'm psychic. And I should propably not tell a psychologist this. It all fascinates me, though.
 
I once read an article about this and found a good bit of it to be relatable; same goes for your blog. To me though, it's just another label to classify differences in personality and I'd just rather not be considered mentally ill for being different - according the the DSM anyway.
 
anarkandi said:
A+ read.

I've plunged myself into the new age realm, and have been able to do things alot of people would consider crazy. I for example, were able to send messages via telepathy to friends. And it could propably all just be my imagination, or a lucky coincidence, or they just lied to me about hearing the message and were somehow able to guess it correctly. I can see auras around people, things other people don't seem able to, even if I tell them how, they seem unable to. Once, I saw a new age girl, who did a read on me. The first thing she said "I don't need to tell you anything. You already know it all. You're a magician."

I was surprised, because by that time I had left most of the new age world behind me. But she was able to read and see my soul. And I could see hers too. It was an instant connection, though we never talked again. And when people around me are hurting, I try to transfer energy, reiki, to them, to help them. Then I ask them if they feel better, just a few minutes after they told me, and some say "Yeah, suddenly I feel much better. O.O"

It could still just be the fact that I talked to them. I'm not saying I'm psychic. And I should propably not tell a psychologist this. It all fascinates me, though.
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I'm not sure it's healthy to question obviously psychic experiences and doubt them. At least that's been the case for me. Some psychologists are definitely open to this, but you have to find them. If they're not, keep moving.

I was in the New Age stuff as well, back in the day when it was a big movement, but I got away from it as well. I was never into Reiki though, I kind of do my own thing.
 
Craig Weiler said:
"I'm not sure I"m psychic" I hear that a lot. But one of the trademarks of an INFJ is that they take psychic ability for granted. Chances are, you do it far more than you realize, it just doesn't register as psychic stuff because you're not using a crystal ball.
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i have abilities that others would refer to as psychic, but i dont see it that way. i'm not sure anyone is 'psychic'. i believe everyone has the capacity to reach beyond the known parameters of what is possible, it's just dormant in some., or less prevalent.
 
JGirl said:
i have abilities that others would refer to as psychic, but i dont see it that way. i'm not sure anyone is 'psychic'. i believe everyone has the capacity to reach beyond the known parameters of what is possible, it's just dormant in some., or less prevalent.
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I don't know if you realize this, but the fact that you see things that way demonstrates quite a bit of familiarity with psychic ability. You're an outlier in that category, just like other INFJ's.
 
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Craig Weiler said:
I don't know if you realize this, but the fact that you see things that way demonstrates quite a bit of familiarity with psychic ability. You're an outlier in that category, just like other INFJ's.
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it's evident to me that most of the people who identify themselves as infj's have the same abilities to read into people and events.
i find that i'm uncomfortable in a room with more than two other people. i can juggle two people's vibes alongside my own usually pretty well, but if there are any more i feel overwhelmed by it. i hate being in a crowd or even a lineup at a bank or fast food restaurant.
when i go shopping i have to 'come down' for an hour or so when i get home.
and that's just grocery shopping lol
i feel everything from everyone all the time. not their thoughts, i feel like a vibe or energy. i feel the negative more readily than positive unfortunately. know what i feel most often? extreme sadness. and the people don't even realize how sad they are. they think it's something else entirely.
i don't see this as being psychic i guess because that term is connected with the mystical and mysterious.

there are other things i am able to see/feel/sense that are a distinct advantage in my life. i read body language easily, faces, photos, voices. i can tell a person's basic character in about five minutes and i am rarely incorrect.
these abilites were survival skills at one time, and now are just a handy tool in my collection. grinz

so if that is the definition of psychic ability, then so be it.
i won't be 'hanging out a tile' anytime soon lol
 
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JGirl said:
it's evident to me that most of the people who identify themselves as infj's have the same abilities to read into people and events.
i find that i'm uncomfortable in a room with more than two other people. i can juggle two people's vibes alongside my own usually pretty well, but if there are any more i feel overwhelmed by it. i hate being in a crowd or even a lineup at a bank or fast food restaurant.
when i go shopping i have to 'come down' for an hour or so when i get home.
and that's just grocery shopping lol
i feel everything from everyone all the time. not their thoughts, i feel like a vibe or energy. i feel the negative more readily than positive unfortunately. know what i feel most often? extreme sadness. and the people don't even realize how sad they are. they think it's something else entirely.
i don't see this as being psychic i guess because that term is connected with the mystical and mysterious.

there are other things i am able to see/feel/sense that are a distinct advantage in my life. i read body language easily, faces, photos, voices. i can tell a person's basic character in about five minutes and i am rarely incorrect.
these abilites were survival skills at one time, and now are just a handy tool in my collection. grinz

so if that is the definition of psychic ability, then so be it.
i won't be 'hanging out a tile' anytime soon lol
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The things you are describing are, in fact, exactly the characteristics of psychics people. As David Ritchey points out in his book "The HISS of the ASP" the high sensitivity isn't limited to psychic ability, it carries over into emotions, the electromagnetic spectrum and even the immune system. Also, ordinary senses, (or the ability to correctly interpret them) are heightened.

I'm not suggesting that you hang out a shingle, I think being a professional psychic is a lousy job personally, but I think that it's good to get the whole picture.
 
Craig Weiler said:
The things you are describing are, in fact, exactly the characteristics of psychics people. As David Ritchey points out in his book "The HISS of the ASP" the high sensitivity isn't limited to psychic ability, it carries over into emotions, the electromagnetic spectrum and even the immune system. Also, ordinary senses, (or the ability to correctly interpret them) are heightened.

I'm not suggesting that you hang out a shingle, I think being a professional psychic is a lousy job personally, but I think that it's good to get the whole picture.
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shingle, yes...lol i said tile. i am so base sometimes!

the ordinary senses are very heightened for me. sound, light, smell, taste, texture, depth, all of it. sometimes that too can be overwhelming. sound, smell, and lighting are the three biggies.
 
I liked this very much.
 
JGirl said:
it's evident to me that most of the people who identify themselves as infj's have the same abilities to read into people and events.
i find that i'm uncomfortable in a room with more than two other people. i can juggle two people's vibes alongside my own usually pretty well, but if there are any more i feel overwhelmed by it. i hate being in a crowd or even a lineup at a bank or fast food restaurant.
when i go shopping i have to 'come down' for an hour or so when i get home.
and that's just grocery shopping lol
i feel everything from everyone all the time. not their thoughts, i feel like a vibe or energy. i feel the negative more readily than positive unfortunately. know what i feel most often? extreme sadness. and the people don't even realize how sad they are. they think it's something else entirely.
i don't see this as being psychic i guess because that term is connected with the mystical and mysterious.

there are other things i am able to see/feel/sense that are a distinct advantage in my life. i read body language easily, faces, photos, voices. i can tell a person's basic character in about five minutes and i am rarely incorrect.
these abilites were survival skills at one time, and now are just a handy tool in my collection. grinz

so if that is the definition of psychic ability, then so be it.
i won't be 'hanging out a tile' anytime soon lol
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I didn't realize we had so much in common. (We should chat) I feel for you because I know EXACTLY what you mean, but at the same time I'm excited. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who gets like that...


Also I really enjoyed reading that blog post! Very interesting... I'd have to say I relate a lot with that.
 
Craig Weiler said:
"I'm not sure I"m psychic" I hear that a lot. But one of the trademarks of an INFJ is that they take psychic ability for granted. Chances are, you do it far more than you realize, it just doesn't register as psychic stuff because you're not using a crystal ball.
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I've found that this could have some truth in it. I did one session at some new age therapy once, thanks to my dad who thought it might help me with insomnia I was suffering from at the time. I can't to the life of me remember what it was called exactly, but it involved a kind of a guided mental travel where you "in your mind" went through a doorway and described places. "In my mind's eye" I went to this pasture and hung out there for a while. I told her what I saw there yadda yadda... I thought it was a little tedious, as I've kind of done that always, and what was peculiar to me was the therapists gasps of awe at how I did something (don't ask me what) so well. I just wondered wether other people have no imagination at all. What do they do? Describe going to the store and getting milk or what? I really do not know.
...anyway. Later on in my life I have flirted with new agey and such things and some things people methodically do to train "psychic" ability..You just normally do it. I thought everyone does it. Maybe not so. Some things like astral travel and drawing "spirit portraits" (which after seeing what a spirit portrait is I was like "Ohhhh!!! Really? You meant THAT??? I've got a boxfull of those old things in my closet.) I've become a little dessapointed with getting into some "spiritual techniques" because they often end up being non-events. They sound grand and mystical and actually describe something normal like you taking your dog out for a walk was called The Great Cycle of Recurring Eternal.
I don't quite understand what life would be like if you didn't do things you didn't know you were "doing". That you're more so spontaneously being. EDIT: I'm not psychic by the way, though I've had random experiences that could be defined as that.

JGirl said:
i don't see this as being psychic i guess because that term is connected with the mystical and mysterious.

there are other things i am able to see/feel/sense that are a distinct advantage in my life. i read body language easily, faces, photos, voices. i can tell a person's basic character in about five minutes and i am rarely incorrect.
these abilites were survival skills at one time, and now are just a handy tool in my collection. grinz

so if that is the definition of psychic ability, then so be it.
i won't be 'hanging out a tile' anytime soon lol
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I think people choose expressions of phenomena which are most to their taste. You could just as well choose to say "My subconscious mind collects data efficiently, processes it and communicates the observation in symbols which my conscious interprets to language and is able to communicate the observation." Obviously the process would bring in an elemnt of distorsion, like a game of Chinese Whispers.

That's how I see it. ;D
 
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