Legalizing murder of abortionists

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http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/02/south-dakota-abortion-crisis-pregnancy-center-bill

Last week, South Dakota's legislature shelved a controversial bill that appeared to legalize the killing of abortion doctors. But South Dakota's powerful anti-abortion lobby and its political allies didn't let one defeat stop them from pursuing their agenda. Far from it: on Tuesday, the state's house of representatives voted 49 to 19 to approve HB 1217, a first-of-its-kind law that supporters hope will drastically restrict access to abortion in the Mount Rushmore State.

The legislation, which is expected to face a vote in the state senate in the next few weeks, would require women to visit crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs)
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Legalizing Murders of Judges, of Jurors.



This is so incredibly disgusting.
 
I want to say that me and the guy in the video have the exact same luck. Anyway, yeah, two wrongs don't make a right. If you call someone's free will wrong...? IDK, this will never pass, so silly.
 
middle1 said:
I want to say that me and the guy in the video have the exact same luck. Anyway, yeah, two wrongs don't make a right. If you call someone's free will wrong...? IDK, this will never pass, so silly.
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Whose free will?
 
Sali said:
Whose free will?
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Oh Sali, I can't say, I really don't have the answers. I just feel like the government shouldn't have a say so in that sort of thing yet, as a taxpayer, I don't want to pay for it.
 
The issue comes down to whether it's seen as the murder of a baby or not, the government does regulate murders as far as I know, we don't live in Somalia after all.
 
Sali said:
The issue comes down to whether it's seen as the murder of a baby or not, the government does regulate murders as far as I know, we don't live in Somalia after all.
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But it's not your call, it's hers. The way I view the argument is not about whether or not killing a baby is ok but rather, it is about pro-choice vs anti-choice. I don't think anyone in their right mind wants abortions to happen and in a perfect world, they wouldn't. But this world is full of some fucked up shit.
 
Sali said:
What about the unborn babies choice to not die?
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That's a shit awfully tough question. But I am going to answer your question with another question.

What gives you the right to impose what you believe onto other people in a way that limits their constitutional freedom, free will and makes one of the hardest decisions of their life for them?

The babies life has yet to begin and even if the mothers life is in danger, some people will not let her live by losing the baby.

I want you to at least consider that the baby, although may have it's own life, is a part of the body of the woman. Her and the baby really are one during pregnancy. How can other people tell a woman what to do with her body much less make it a law?
 
bickelz said:
That's a shit awfully tough question. But I am going to answer your question with another question.

What gives you the right to impose what you believe onto other people in a way that limits their constitutional freedom, free will and makes one of the hardest decisions of their life for them?

The babies life has yet to begin and even if the mothers life is in danger, some people will not let her live by losing the baby.

I want you to at least consider that the baby, although may have it's own life, is a part of the body of the woman. Her and the baby really are one during pregnancy. How can other people tell a woman what to do with her body much less make it a law?
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I'm afraid I can't answer your questions without getting far too emotional about it and so I will leave this thread now and not return to it again. however I will say that I'm glad that my birth mother gave me the opportunity to live and the opportunity for my adoptive parents dreams to be fulfilled.
 
Yes. Sounds like a plan! Subject these women to psychological torture by a group of fanatics and then hope they are brainwashed enough to decide not to have an abortion...
 
Sali said:
What about the unborn babies choice to not die?
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hi
uhmmm
Pretty sure the abortions being discussed don't occur after there is any sort of nervous system (therefore cognitive awareness or reasoning) developed. If it did, it would be considered a late term abortion which is an entirely different issue. What is being aborted is not capable of self awareness much less free will. So let's be honest, and call it an embryo, and not a baby, because it still has a very long way to develop before it will become a baby. It's essentially tissue and genetic information. And have no more cognitive/philosophical functioning than a sperm cell, an egg cell, and a load of water, minerals, vitamins, protiens, fats and sucrose. Once the second trimester kicks in, and the nervous system forms, y'know, the makings of sentiency, yea that's when life becomes beautiful. SRSLY, take bio 30, it explains the thing.

Oh, and before the end first trimester (in case it hasn't already been noted, this is when the abortions being discussed are taking place) women's bodies naturally abort zygotes/embryos all the time, like if the conditions in her body aren't right for something. no one notices and it's nbd.

So what's the difference if the external conditions aren't right for her pregnancy. Like she'd rather focus on her career, or school so she can be equal to her male peers who don't walk around with a baby factory between their legs. Maybe she's a doctor? or a diplomat? and could many lives being where she is needed. Or maybe she's a twelve year old victim of incest. That would kind of suck wouldn't it? It's easy to pretend this doesn't happen but it does. What if she feels the need to choose between suicide and abortion? Loads of teenage girls who have been raped or sexually abused face this choice. I have never known a woman to consider an abortion without heavily considering the ethical implications.

People who are unaware of the biological process of pregnancy, and legal parameters of abortion are endlessly frustrating. They just drive their silly little van around with a late term abortion on it and pretend that's what the issue is about.


However,
late term abortions = bad, bad, bad
yes

mmmkay?
mmkay
 
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Any law that restricts a woman's right to get an abortion is one that I'm most likely going to be opposed to.

You don't like abortions? Sweet, don't have one.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone that they cannot do whatever they want with their body and the fetus growing within their body?
 
Neuropedia said:
However,
late term abortions = bad, bad, bad
yes

mmmkay?
mmkay
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Well, any abortion isn't exactly a good thing. Late term abortions are always a desperate situation though. A woman would not decide to keep the baby at 3 months and then once 8 months comes around say "I don't want my vag torn open so I think I'm gonna abort this kid".

True, there are a lot of miscarriages as you said before as well. As many as 1 in 5 pregnancies end in miscarriage but I wouldn't call it nbd because it is often a traumatic experience for the mother to lose her child.
 
Elowen said:
Any law that restricts a woman's right to get an abortion is one that I'm most likely going to be opposed to.

You don't like abortions? Sweet, don't have one.

Who the fuck are you to tell someone that they cannot do whatever they want with their body and the fetus growing within their body?
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Who the fuck are you to tell someone they cannot kill a hobo?
 
Sali said:
Who the fuck are you to tell someone they cannot kill a hobo?
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I knew someone was going to suggest a ridiculous over-exaggeration.

Aborting a fetus is not the same as killing a hobo.
Not at all.
 
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