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Irrelevance of liberal, socialist and communist ideals in the modern world.

That was just meant to be a joke because it was my bedtime. Dreams are sort of like a virtual world.

Also, we had been discussing how people lead these fake online ("virtual") lives, (or through video games). So I was just joking that that's the only place where any of us really has control over... hence "virtual fiefdom." In the real world, we're actually powerless, so perhaps that's why we retreat to the virtual world, whether it's dreaming, video games, Facebook, etc. Next time, I'll find a better joke. :tongueclosed:
 
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That was just meant to be a joke because it was my bedtime. Dreams are sort of like a virtual world.

Also, we had been discussing how people lead these fake online ("virtual") lives, (or through video games). So I was just joking that that's the only place where any of us really has control over... hence "virtual fiefdom." In the real world, we're actually powerless, so perhaps that's why we retreat to the virtual world, whether it's dreaming, video games, Facebook, etc. Next time, I'll find a better joke. :tongueclosed:

I get it lol .Also, continue to joke and be spontaneous. I love jokes! :tonguewink:I noticed you're in the "Garden State, such a cool place. I always wanted to visit Newark. I bet it's nothing fancy for you if you've visited many times.
 
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Sorry to post so much in this thread, but I would another interesting nugget.
Okay, so before Hitler Joined, the national socialist party was the "liberal" party, and then afterwards it has from then on become synonymous with the far right...?

"After the war, Hitler joined a new extreme rightwing party, the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NSDAP), quickly becoming its strongman because he could inspire people with his speeches. He noticed that propaganda against Jews and Bolsheviks (often mentioned together) struck a chord with audiences and voters. He claimed Jews were not only responsible for the unfair German defeat but were also blocking Germany’s recovery."

So there you go liberals. Well I mean it's just more proof it's just a matter of right versus left correct? just another example of the upper classes trying to dick around the general public. OMFG, WILL THIS EVER END!

Okay okay okay, it's obviously what this is.
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The "far right" is crafty and sneaky, and so of course if they were to try and do a similar thing they'd be discrete about it correct and are probably well equated with history? the common tactic of trying to manipulate or trick people is just to switch things around all of the time.
 
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Low IQ perhaps, but these people obviously have a very high EQ.

The link to the article was to prove a point to someone.
Yes...yuge in the EQ arena.
 
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No, it comes from you misunderstanding the definition of liberalism.
Thanks for that. I would not have known unless you explained it to me.
 
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the national socialist party was the "liberal" party, and then afterwards it has from then on become synonymous with the far right...?
The National Socialist party was never a liberal party. Socialism != Liberalism. Now there are many modern day Democratic Socalists who have taken up some of the economic ideas of old socialists, but they reject heavily the nationalism aspect. In fact most of those who you might classify as socialists and nationalists in America today were the voters who left the Democratic party this election in favor of Trump. These are primarily your blue collar white guys who normally stuck with Democrats because of their support for Unions and being more skeptical of Trade. Trump stole them by making Republican anti trade, and anti immigration which is what has driving Republicans toward fascism.

The key component of fascism is nationalism. Fascists use patriotism, nationalism, xenophobia, and religious zealotry to convince their followers that they are superior and more important than everyone else. They convince them that outsiders who are not like them are the cause of all their problems and that to make things better they must expel or eradicate the outsiders.

The anti-immigration, anti-Muslim, anti-mexican rhetoric of Trump is virtually identical to the antisemite rhetoric of Hitler. That is why so many neo-nazi groups here in America were cheering in the streets when Trump was elected. Are you seriously delusional enough to believe that modern day Nazi's and Klan members are on the side of good all of a sudden? Do you seriously believe that the racist south that supported slavery and Jim Crow has magically now not only caught up, but surpassed their more open minded northern counterparts?
 
So I've come to a new conclusion, there will always be forces at play who seek to dominate and oppress, and thus the torch must always be past to the youth and younger generation, if hope is to be reserved, but sometimes the ways of old must be challenged.

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I just wanted to say that I read "Irrelevant" as "Irreverence," then I realized that coincidentally, that word would have been the accurate choice.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/irreverence

1. the quality of being irreverent; lack of reverence or respect.

I don't respect (lefty stuff), so I will just claim that (lefty stuff) is besides the point.

That's a weighty claim! I hope you did your research.
 
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What scares a liberal to their foundation? Free speech and truth. Well these colleges will start to crack down on the violence they display when money is involved now.


Ben Shapiro speaks at UC Berkeley despite arrests and protests
By Lukas MikelionisPublished September 15, 2017



Ben Shapiro's UC Berkeley speech met with protests

Conservative star Ben Shapiro spoke at the University of California at Berkeley on Thursday night amid extraordinary security measures – costing around $600,000 – prompted by fears of an outburst by violent agitators possibly descending on the campus.


All the precautions were to ensure that the 33-year-old conservative could deliver a speech on a college campus that was home to the Free Speech Movement in the 1960s. The scene was a stark change from Shapiro’s 2016 UC Berkeley talk, where the security costs were minimal.

“No violence, no nothing. And now we are spending well into six figures so that I can say many of the same things. It's utterly absurd,” Shapiro told the audience Thursday.

Metal detectors, concrete barriers and police barricades put the campus on effective lockdown.


“Conservatives here have done something amazing. They’ve achieved something incredible,” he added. “If you look outside, there’s K-bar everywhere. They’ve built basically these structures to keep Antifa from invading the premises.

"So that means Berkeley has achieved building a wall before Donald Trump did.”


Local police officers, who were allowed to use pepper spray against violent demonstrators after receiving approval this week from the Berkeley city council, arrested at least three people armed with weapons before the event, reiterating that no weapons are allowed near campus.

But the violent protesters known as Antifa, or “anti-fascists” – spooked by the security – did not show up to shut down Shapiro’s speech in their usual fashion and instead were allegedly in the audience challenging him, the Washington Times reported.


The talk by Shapiro -- author of the bestsellers "Brainwashed," "Porn Generation" and "Project President" -- was met with resistance mostly from Berkeley students who were heard chanting, “Speech is violent, we will not be silent!” and accusing Shapiro, an observant Orthodox Jew, of being a white supremacist or neo-Nazi.

“Thanks to Antifa and the supposed anti-fascist brigade for exposing what the radical left truly is,” he told the massive audience, despite a last-minute decision by the university to reportedly seize all unclaimed tickets to prevent entry to late-ticket buyers.

“All of America is watching because you guys are so stupid. It's horrifying, I am grateful, and you can all go to hell, you pathetic, lying, stupid jackasses," he added.

He celebrated the police for ensuring the event occurred, saying “These are the folks that stand between civilization and lawlessness."

He added that “the only people who are standing between those ATMs and the Antifa are the police, and all they get from the left is a bunch of crap.”


The event remained cordial despite students’ disagreements with Shapiro, who was questioned on his views regarding abortion, economics and general politics. He was not interrupted by any protesters inside the venue.

In the speech aftermath, some more-confrontational protesters came out, shouting at the police officers and scuffling with counter-protesters.

Two more people were reportedly arrested – bringing the total number arrested to five.

Among the protesters was By All Means Necessary (BAMN) ringleader Yvette Felarca, who was recently arrested for allegedly inciting a riot, Fox News reported.

A crowd led by Felarca marched down a street, shouting “Nazi scum off our streets,” according to Berkleyside, while counter-protesters also marched down. The police had separated the two factions to ensure no large clashes occurred.
 
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@Eventhorizon you have no idea what scares a liberal or how a liberal thinks. And I think you really do not care to learn about the way anyone who has a different opinion than you thinks or feels. You're at war in your own mind.
We see how liberals think on the news. They are all about violence to promote their agenda. So while I do not know fully how they think I at least in part know how they act.
 
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We see how liberals think on the news. They are all about violence to promote their agenda. So while I do not know fully how they think I at least in part know how they act.

You couldn’t be more wrong.
Meanwhile you keep defending the Nazis and the KKK...you keep defending people who are purposefully trying to incite violence in our society and cause more separation.
This thread is irrelevant.
 
Maybe it's not mental masturbation... Because at least with mental masturbation there's intellectual stimulation going on. But whatever it is, it's just saying the same old thing over and over again without any desire to actually learn anything or engage... Maybe it's mental fondling yourself through your pants or mental Donald Trump/Rush Limbaugh leg humping with the inability to climax... Yes, @Milktoast Bandit... You may be onto something...

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We see how liberals think on the news. They are all about violence to promote their agenda. So while I do not know fully how they think I at least in part know how they act.
Bullshit, except of course if you limit your news intake to the right wing sites which focus exclusively on the actions of a super minority of those holding non-rightwing positions. The right in this country is WAY more violent and prone to using violent verbiage in its discourse. The fact that they accuse those who oppose them of the behavior they are most known for is the most telling fact
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