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I found my God, he's in my head

Do I come across as flippant? :) No I was being serious.

I'm never sure but I'm just used to people either being flippant to begin with or suggesting they have been if someone makes a serious point in response to something they have posted and they dont want to be drawn into a discussion. Its the "shallows" that is the internetz, sorry for misjudging you man.
 
I agree, and I like the word "journey".
It doesn't feel like "searching" to me. It feels more like "resting" in something and being carried endlessly "forward".

The idea of quest is interesting to me and in particular "grail quest" although what the "holy grail" is is part of it.
 
My personal spiritual journey has ended. I no longer feel the need to search for more "truth"; just try to enjoy life, and the company it brings.
 
My personal spiritual journey has ended. I no longer feel the need to search for more "truth"; just try to enjoy life, and the company it brings.

From time to time I feel that way too, perhaps the whole spiritual quest reasserts itself when I'm going through a quiet stretch socially.
 
The idea of quest is interesting to me and in particular "grail quest" although what the "holy grail" is is part of it.
I’m attracted to the idea myself. As a kid much of the fiction I gravitated toward carried the theme of “the hero’s journey” and I’m still a sucker for a good fantasy adventure involving a quest of some kind.

But when I run my concept of “quest” through my own spiritual filter, at this point in my life and in regard to my own spiritual journey, it feels a bit off somehow. I don’t think I can adequately explain it, but for whatever reason it seems to be a necessary kind of distinction that my soul needs to make.
 
I think that it's important to look for something and bring to your life some purpose. Personally i know exactly what i'm looking for in life, and won't rest till i reach there with someone. I want to fulfill my own purpose, in one way or another so it does have an end.
 
I'm still searching and I think I will be searching for a long time. But sometimes I do think.. ''why I am searching?'' maybe the answer is already inside me.
 
What if you were alone in the void?
Born from no-thing
Wouldn't anything be better than that unfathomable loneliness?
Wouldn't you create a reality to run from yourself?
Wouldn't you run to bitter cold and searing heat, to hardship, to mirth, to madness, to fear and to love just to escape the loneliness?
What if you are everyone and everything? What if this reality is nothing but you playing hide and seek with yourself?
All and nothing
 
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What if you were alone in the void?
Born from no-thing
Wouldn't anything be better than that unfathomable loneliness?
Wouldn't you create a reality to run from yourself?
Wouldn't you run to bitter cold and searing heat, to hardship, to mirth, to madness, to fear and to love just to escape the loneliness?
What if you are everyone and everything? What if this reality is nothing but you playing hide and seek with yourself?
All and nothing

I would create cats.
 
I think that there actually is one truth - but different ways to approach it, which leads to different beliefs and religions that are different expressions of basically the same thing. So, no religion is better than the other, but a certain belief or religion can be the best way to approach the one truth for a certain person.

What if you were alone in the void?
Born from no-thing
Wouldn't anything be better than that unfathomable loneliness?
Wouldn't you create a reality to run from yourself?
Wouldn't you run to bitter cold and searing heat, to hardship, to mirth, to madness, to fear and to love just to escape the loneliness?
What if you are everyone and everything? What if this reality is nothing but you playing hide and seek with yourself?
All and nothing

I thought about this quite a lot and I can still imagine it very well on an intellectual level. The thing is, if you were born from nothing - what is nothing? Could this nothing then be as well everything?
 
I will walk the Tao of Jesus.

I am very satisfied with what has been revealed to me and I would never have it any other way. I feel immensely privileged to take part in this Grand Journey, and want to share my love with all beings. Happiness flows through me like a fountain when I am in communion with the Source, and when Overflowing Love motivates my actions. I will be persistent, and I'll make a difference. Life is a miracle, and I am a particle, inseparable. I fear not death because I live forever, I am smart because I am dumb, I have faith because I doubted, and I walk furthest when I am still.

I love kittens,The Truth and YOU! <3
 
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I think that there actually is one truth - but different ways to approach it, which leads to different beliefs and religions that are different expressions of basically the same thing. So, no religion is better than the other, but a certain belief or religion can be the best way to approach the one truth for a certain person.

I thought about this quite a lot and I can still imagine it very well on an intellectual level. The thing is, if you were born from nothing - what is nothing? Could this nothing then be as well everything?

It is infinate no-thingness

[video=youtube;ssf7P-Sgcrk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssf7P-Sgcrk[/video]
 
It is infinate no-thingness
(Video)

Yeah, I meant basically the same thing. All human possessions, achievements and personalities are an illusion. They don't stay, and they're no part of who you really are either. You can't take your possessions or your job with you when you die. And what you consider as your personality is nothing more than random labels put on you that you accepted one day. The moment when one realizes this, one becomes a part of the infinite... And understands that there is no necessity to do or to become anything, just to be. :)
 
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Yeah, I meant basically the same thing. All human possessions, achievements and personalities are an illusion. They don't stay, and they're no part of who you really are either. You can't take your possessions or your job with you when you die. And what you consider as your personality is nothing more than random labels put on you that you accepted one day. The moment when one realizes this, one becomes a part of the infinite... And understands that there is no necessity to do or to become anything, just to be. :)

Yeah...it's how to live in that eddy amongst the tumult of modern life...that's what's hard

We get swept along with it all.....along with the mad carnaval

When Alan Watts asked in that clip how do you feel about thinking about you and everything you have and have done turning into dust....how do you feel about it?

I just feel release

I like the reflections of the romantic poet shelley on the impermanence of things in his poem Ozymandias:

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away

This reality we are in here...its only for a certain indeterminate amount of time, yet some people are hanging on so tight! They think: 'i must have power', 'i must have wealth', ' i must control everyone else'......and they create a culture that encourages other people to hang on really tight and before you know it we are all surrounded by people hanging on really tight and even the process of just living requires us to hang on tight.....

It's madness...
 
Yeah...it's how to live in that eddy amongst the tumult of modern life...that's what's hard

We get swept along with it all.....along with the mad carnaval

When Alan Watts asked in that clip how do you feel about thinking about you and everything you have and have done turning into dust....how do you feel about it?

I just feel release

I like the reflections of the romantic poet shelley on the impermanence of things in his poem Ozymandias:

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away

This reality we are in here...its only for a certain indeterminate amount of time, yet some people are hanging on so tight! They think: 'i must have power', 'i must have wealth', ' i must control everyone else'......and they create a culture that encourages other people to hang on really tight and before you know it we are all surrounded by people hanging on really tight and even the process of just living requires us to hang on tight.....

It's madness...

And when one directs this same mentality to spiritual pursuits, it's still all about nothing - nothing actually changed there.

Thus arises the concept of crazy wisdom. Some times it takes somebody like Ikkyu, the rude and drunken Zen student and poet who slept with women and eventually became a historic master to say "Hey. Holding on to this all stuff you guys have so hard is just the same as holding onto wealth."

Nothing inherently wrong with madness. That's part of things, too. It's not all cherry blossoms and spirit energy.
 
And when one directs this same mentality to spiritual pursuits, it's still all about nothing - nothing actually changed there.

Thus arises the concept of crazy wisdom. Some times it takes somebody like Ikkyu, the rude and drunken Zen student and poet who slept with women and eventually became a historic master to say "Hey. Holding on to this all stuff you guys have so hard is just the same as holding onto wealth."

Nothing inherently wrong with madness. That's part of things, too. It's not all cherry blossoms and spirit energy.

Well look at Osho...he was driving around in a rolls royce and getting sexual favours off his disciples

It's all madness...the whole thing....any expression is madness

The warlord urging his soldiers forward is no more mad than the monk that stays shuttered up in the cloisters...they are all just forms of human expression

However arguably the monk harms less people!

I remember watching a clip of some monks in nepal or tibet (i forget which). Most of them were incredibly solemn...they were meditating and walking around chanting and clanging cymbals and it was very ritualised and solemn but there was this one monk who was sitting back from it all just laughing; children were playing nearby without a care in the world and he was just taking in the whole scene....the solemn monks and the carefree children...and just laughing

One wonders which is the most sane

Anyone who wants to know the human psyche will learn next to nothing from experimental psychology. He would be better advised to abandon exact science, put away his scholar's gown, bid farewell to his study, and wander with human heart through the world. There, in the horrors of prisons, lunatic asylums and hospitals, in drab suburban pubs, in brothels and gambling-hells, in the salons of the elegant, the Stock Exchanges, socialist meetings, churches, revivalist gatherings and ecstatic sects, through love and hate, through the experience of passion in every form in his own body, he would reap richer stores of knowledge than text-books a foot thick could give him, and he will know how to doctor the sick with a real knowledge of the human soul- Carl Jung
 
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Well look at Osho...he was driving around in a rolls royce and getting sexual favours off his disciples

It's all madness...the whole thing....any expression is madness

The warlord urging his soldiers forward is no more mad than the monk that stays shuttered up in the cloisters...they are all just forms of human expression

However arguably the monk harms less people!

I remember watching a clip of some monks in nepal. Most of them were incredibly solemn...they were meditating and walking around chanting and clanging cymbals and it was very ritualised and solemn but there was this one monk who was sitting back from it all just laughing; the children were playing nearby without a care in the world and he was just taking in the whole scene....the solemn monks and the carefree children...and just laughing

One wonders which is the most sane

Indeed. However a monk gets away with it only when they actually have a point and people can see it.

It's not any old crazy. Anybody can break the rules. It takes a special kind of crazy.
 
Indeed. However a monk gets away with it only when they actually have a point and people can see it.

It's not any old crazy. Anybody can break the rules. It takes a special kind of crazy.

Sometimes the rules themselves are crazy

I think that the monks keeping themselves to themselves and doing community work have a valid argument to being a more positive expression than the war mongerers and the war profiteers

So then we begin grading insanity...creating a value system
 
Sometimes the rules themselves are crazy

I think that the monks keeping themselves to themselves and doing community work have a valid argument to being a more positive expression than the war mongerers and the war profiteers

So then we begin grading insanity...creating a value system

Nope, it's nothing. No value system. Remember everything is nothing. It can't be engineered or graded - if you engineer it and grade it, that's not crazy wisdom. Just like if you clean the dust off the mirror, that's not nothing, that's something.

There's no dust, no mirror, and really no crazy either. All same idea.