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Are we as a society being kept from discussing the big issues?

If they are printing the money and then taxing the money to get it back and then printing more money than the economy can produce. Then why does it matter if we are paying our fair share or not. It would be impossible to pay it off. So my question is why would a government be so focused on making everyone pay their fair share when that share will never be enough to pay back what they have borrowed against the country? Why do that?

Absolutely! But you know why....

They are going to impoverish everyone so that they can end up owning the world

Here's an article about how the global elite seem to be getting behind bitcoin now...they know the dollar is sunk and people like george soros are getting their money out of cash and into land and gold

The worry about bitcoin is that because of its digital nature the guys with the most computing power would have an advantage and might be able to control it in the same way they controlled paper fiat money: http://www.globalresearch.ca/will-d...y-to-make-bitcoin-the-global-currency/5361021

But basically the dollar is a dead duck

So you're totally right in saying why are these guys in power who know the dollar system is about to collapse getting us to hand over all our wealth? Its a scam

The central bankers create money out of thin air and then make us pay interest on it!

Also what they are doing with quantitative easing (printing more money) is they are at the moment making money more plentyful which is supplying more credit so people are feeling more confident and going out and getting mortgages again but at the same time the money printing is causing inflation which is lowering the value of peoples money.

So they give with one hand and take more back with the other hand. On top of that when they raise the interest rates all those who are buying into the current housing bubble will be left high and dry and the bankers will repossess peoples homes (a repeat of the sub prime mortgage bubble)
 
If they are printing the money and then taxing the money to get it back and then printing more money than the economy can produce. Then why does it matter if we are paying our fair share or not. It would be impossible to pay it off. So my question is why would a government be so focused on making everyone pay their fair share when that share will never be enough to pay back what they have borrowed against the country? Why do that?

Well there's one thing: debt is still paid off in monthly installments. This is why the government actually reports a monthly cash balance (which is made public, you can find it online).

In some months there's actually a profit being made. Specifically the beginning of the calendar year usually sees a profit, for the past four years or so we've had surplus in January. September is also usually a month that reports profits because it's the end of the fiscal year.

So it's not impossible to cover the debt since it's a monthly basis and they've been doing it for years. Problem is they always manage to screw up the cumulative balance, even though making a profit is still entirely possible (we've had them even this year) they keep trying to mess with things and come up with new budget plans and the screwing around is what makes it look more dire than it actually has to be.
 
Well there's one thing: debt is still paid off in monthly installments. This is why the government actually reports a monthly cash balance (which is made public, you can find it online).

In some months there's actually a profit being made. Specifically the beginning of the calendar year usually sees a profit, for the past four years or so we've had surplus in January. September is also usually a month that reports profits because it's the end of the fiscal year.

So it's not impossible to cover the debt since it's a monthly basis and they've been doing it for years. Problem is they always manage to screw up the cumulative balance, even though making a profit is still entirely possible (we've had them even this year) they keep trying to mess with things and come up with new budget plans and the screwing around is what makes it look more dire than it actually has to be.

[video=youtube;dUIGKTYwxd8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUIGKTYwxd8#t=13[/video]
 
[MENTION=1871]muir[/MENTION], how do you think world economics, politics, and culture will look by the end of your lifetime?

To be more directed, what major events or social changes do you think will happen before you die?
 
@muir , how do you think world economics, politics, and culture will look by the end of your lifetime?

To be more directed, what major events or social changes do you think will happen before you die?

Well there's no way to know when i will die of course, but lets say if i live to the average age then i think i'm going to see some big changes

There's basically an ideological struggle going on at the moment

On one side you have: the jewish central bankers, the aristocracy of europe (the 'black nobility'), their american cousins, the monarchies of Europe and the gulf states and the vatican and on the other side you have everyone else

The first group holds most of the land and wealth and manifests as:
  • the corporations (incl the central banks and the military industrial complex)
  • the alphabet agencies (eg FBI, CIA, FEMA, NSA)
  • other secret services (eg Mossad, MI6)
  • various 'think tanks' (eg the council on foreign relations, chatham house, the club of the isles, the club of rome, the Paris club, the JASON Society, the Fabian Society)
  • various secret societies and clubs (eg Freemasons, illuminati, Bilderberg Club, Bohemian Grove)
  • various forms of beurocratic infrastructure (eg the IMF, the World Bank, WHO, the UN, NATO)
  • and even charities (Comic Relief have recently been found to have been investing in companies involved in the dealing of weapons, alcohol and tobacco)
  • the vatican and its bank (see vatican bank scandal: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23289297)

This group control the big 4 oil companies, the big four banks and also the central banks. They control the money supply and the interest rates.

They have faced resistance to their dominating control from some countries in the middle east who have wanted to keep their oil nationalised so that they can get a good price for the natural resource of their country eg Iran. Because of this they have moved 'downstream' in the oil production process to corner the refining aspect of the process

These groups all form a network of control. They control the 3 main commodities in the world: weapons, drugs and oil.

If some people have been puzzled why banks like HSBC were found to be laundering the money of mexican drug cartels and funding terrorism then its because they don't understand about this network....lets call it as it is: a conspiracy. It is a global mafia...in fact the italian mafia (which has links to the vatican bank which handles its ill gotten gains) was started by a 33rd degree freemason called Mazzini. To join the mafia you must undergo an occult initiation rite.

This conspiracy is a conspiracy of people who think a certain way. They believe in their superiority and they believe in maintaining as unequal a society as possible. They have formed an oligarchy....a network of oligarchs who all work together to create an unequal world with the necessary infrastructure to protect themselves against the people whislt they hoard the wealth

Here's a clip of the journalist Chris Hedges discussing the mindset of the global oligarchy, titled ''the pathology of the rich''

[video=youtube;L6unS2JF8TA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6unS2JF8TA[/video]

This oligarchy is essentially fascist in nature. It believes in a corporate elite dominating the public and in having a powerful centrally controlled government that will act as an enforcer for the corporatocracy against the general populace (hence why they want to take your guns away....and some people think its because they care about gun crime!!!!)

This is why many US banks and corporations have links to the fascist nazis and why the vatican and many royals in europe have links to the nazis, because they are all right wing extremists

They do not believe in trade unions, they do not believe in democracy, they do not believe in the freedoms of the public (only the freedoms of the elite)

This group have a long term goal to bring in a world government where they will centralise their power even further over an even greater number of human beings

The other very visible political group on the US political scene is the so called 'libertarians'. The corporate media, which is controlled by the oligarchic network tells the public that libertarians are free market loving anarcho-capitalists but that is not an accurate representation.

A libertarian is really someone who believes that people should be able to do what they want to do as long as they are not harming others. This means that the term 'libertarian' could also include some socialists and anarchists

I consider myself a libertarian but i am not a capitalist

The so called 'libertarian' movement in the US is heavily finded by the Koch Brothers who are industrialists who are some of the biggest polluters in the US. These guys are the financial backers of the 'tea party'

Now these guys might claim to be 'libertarians' but really if you fail to account for externalities such as pollution then you are not a libertarian because your actions most definately ARE affecting others. if you then move your polluting busines offshore to get around US regulations then you are still not a libertarian because you are just polluting someone elses backyard instead

The Koch bros also lobby the politicians to hammer down the rights of workers

So there are elements among the 'libertarians' in the US who are not really libertarians at all but should imo be viewed with deep suspicion because just like the global oligarchy they are basically trying to subjugate and control the mass of people (the workers)

So thats 'the bad guys' if you like. To learn about the connections within the network Dean hendersons book: Big Oil and their bankers in the Persian Gulf is excellent

More in my next post....
 
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So to the 'good guys'....well i guess that would be the rest of humanity...those that work for a living or rely on money from people who work; lets call these 'the workers'

The problem with this group is that they are not a cohesive group with a coherent sense of their shared condition or purpose; the reason for this is because the corporate media has been weaving various narratives that make the workers feel divided and seperate from each other...this then makes them easier to exploit by the predatory oligarchs

The workers are beginning to awaken now to the dynamic in our society. This is in large part due to mass communications which has allowed the sharing of information but also it is because of the austerity measures which are being taken by the oligarchic network

to recap: the oligarchy lobbied the governments to have laws such as the Glass-Steagal Act removed which had acted as a seperation between commercial banks and depository banks. this enabled the oligarchys banks to begin playing casino games with peoples deposits.

Further to this they had the gold standard destroyed which meant that the oligarchic central banks could then print as much paper 'fiat' money as they liked becuase it is not backed by anything tangible

Then they lobbied the corrupt politicans (whose careers were funded by the oligarchs) to get them to deregulate the financial industry. This enabled the creation of the derivitives market which enabled all sorts of financial chicanery to go on behind a screen of complexity through which most people could not see. This enabled them to package useless ticking time bomb 'sub prime' mortages into bundles which they got the oligarchic owned 'ratings agencies' to then rate as 'triple A' (which should have meant that they were bomb proof safe) before selling them off to other banks and institutions before the entire thing blew up with a rise in interest rates (which the oligarch owned central banks control)

The banks then went tbankrupt. The oligarchs then told the corrupt politicans that they must not let the banks fail and that they should pay off the debts of the banks using taxpayer money, which then indebts future, unborn generations of workers to the oligarchs for a crisis that was engineered and orchestrated by the oligarchs. The oligarchs were also the global investors to who the oligarchic banks owed the money

When the oligarch controlled central banks print money and give it to the government (from nothing in reserve) they demand interest on that. This means that the more money is printed the more interest is owed to the bankers. This means that the US debt keeps growing. This means that to keep the ponzi scheme going the politcians will have to keep raising the 'debt ceiling'. it also means that at some point the entire debt based system will collapse under the weight of its own debt

This is where the conspiracy theory speculation comes in.....

many people believe that the oligarchs have orchestrated this crash as part of a plan. if you think about it they have got richer from the crisis as it was them that got bailed out (as the banks creditors) with the bail outs, whilst the public got poorer

Then the oligarch central banks print more money ('quantitative easing'). This keeps interest rates down which destroys the savings of the middle class but keeps the stock market bouyant so it benefits the speculations of the oligarchs.

The oligarchic banks then extract more and more interest for the loans from the economy. But what creates wealth is production. The real economy is production and consumption. The bankers don't create anything they just suck wealth out of the real economy causing it to recede (a 'recession')

So if they don't feed the real economy but instead just suck the life blood out of it, it will slowly die. This means that it cannot recover.

The oligarchs know that when 30% of peoples income goes on food they tend to riot. So the oligarchs have created food banks to stem this threat...for now

meanwhile they are destroying the middle classes and growing richer themselves. The US as a strong independent nation is an obstacle to their plan of creating a world government so they seek to undermine it and its constitution

They have to make life so bad for people that people will then agree to any suggestion the oligarchs put forward.

So their plan is to put everyone through hell so that they will then, in their desperation, acquiesce to the bringing in of a new currency (controlled by the oligarchs) and increasingly globalised government (under the UN)

In anticipation of any uprising from the workers the oligarchy has put in place massive surveillance apparatus to monitor the populations of many countries, they have changed laws (for example ones that undermine the US constitution such as the misnomered 'patriot act' and the misnomered (orwellian doublespeak) National Defence Authorisation Act (NDAA)) that curtail the rights and freedoms of citizens and they have bulked up FEMA and have militarised the police

So whats going to happen....

We are seeing more and more global protest (as i predicted on this forum) as the workers around the world not only become more aware of this dynamic in our world but also as their standards of living drop in the harsher economic climate

This public activism will increase as more and more people feel the pinch of 'austerity'

This will be met with government crackdowns as the oligarchs seek to subjugate the masses. We have been seeing this and we are now seeing laws being discussed that would effectively outlaw protests in public places and we are also seeing new regulations brought in to muzzle the press

This puts humanity at a cross roads. They can either wake up enmasse to whats happening and push back with such determination that they actually radically alter not only how we structure our societies, institituions and political structures but also how we perceive ourselves and our place in the world

or

humanity can fold like a paper bag and allow the oligarchs to usher in a new reich of total domination upon the masses which would see the destruction of our current political and economic structures and the creation of a centrally controlled economy dominated by a handful of oligarchs; the public would have no say in the decision making process...democracy would be dead. To get an idea what this would look like imagine the Hunger Games film

I have hope that humanity will rise to meet this challenge, but there are a number of obstacles to be overcome. The main problem is that large numbers of peope do not currently understand what is going on and dismiss it out of hand as 'conspiracy theory'; this is because they get their understanding of global events form the oligarch owned and controlled corporate media which is of course weaving them a false narrative of reality

If significant numbers can be awakened before total domination of the internet is achieved by the oligarchs then the next hurdle is for those people to then organise together into a cohesive force that can counter the oligarchic network (bare in mind the oligarchic network has been formed and honed over centuries)

This organised mass of people will then need to radically alter how it behaves in order to...to paraphrase ghandi: 'be the change they wish to see in the world'

This can be done and is happening but for the bulk of people to change will require for them to become uncomfortable enough or aware enough to then catalyse a change in perception and resultantly in behaviour; this probably means that things will need to get a lot worse before they can get better

Below is a clip of some police in Italy recently removing their helmets and joining their fellow workers in a demonstration out of solidarity. We need people in the police and military to realise the dynamic at work in our world and whats at stake and to stop doing the dirty work of the oligarchs

[video=youtube;_jqzUX8fkMk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jqzUX8fkMk[/video]
 
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Chrish hedges on why things haven't changed yet:

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The Four Horsemen Of the Apocalypse:

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The timeline of the creation of the New World Order:

http://humansarefree.com/2013/10/the-complete-history-of-freemasonry-and.html


The creation of the New World Order (NWO) agenda was put in motion by the infamous character, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the one who decided to control the entire planet by any means necessary. Of course, this meant: deception, control, financial enslavement, blackmail and murder... but also far graver things, like: wars, famine and depopulation... a genocide unlike any other before it.

If you want to better understand just how powerful and black-hearted the Rothschild family is, then you must read their complete history HERE.

They are the richest clan in the world, and their empire was built on mountains of bones and sufferance.



1773 – Mayer Amschel Rothschild assembles twelve of his most influential friends, and convinces them that if they all pool their resources together, they can rule the world. This meeting takes place in Frankfurt, Germany. Rothschild also informs his friends that he has found the perfect candidate, an individual of incredible intellect and ingenuity, to lead the organization he has planned – Adam Weishaupt.

May 1, 1776 – Adam Weishaupt (code named Spartacus) establishes a secret society called the Order of the Illuminati. Weishaupt is the Professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria, part of Germany. The Illuminati seek to establish a New World Order. Their objectives are as follows:

1) Abolition of all ordered governments
2) Abolition of private property
3) Abolition of inheritance
4) Abolition of patriotism
5) Abolition of the family
6) Abolition of religion
7) Creation of a world government

July, 1782 – The Order of the Illuminati joins forces with Freemasonry at the Congress of Wilhelmsbad. The Comte de Virieu, an attendee at the conference, comes away visibly shaken. When questioned about the “tragic secrets” he brought back with him, he replies: “I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think.” From this time on, according to his biographer, “the Comte de Virieu could only speak of Freemasonry with horror.”

The insignia of the Order of the Illuminati first appeared on the reverse side of U.S. one-dollar bills in 1933. One can read, at the base of the 13-story pyramid, the year 1776 (MDCCLXVI in Roman numerals). The eye radiating in all directions is the “all-spying eye” that symbolizes the terroristic, Gestapo-like, agency set up by Weishaupt.

The Latin words “ANNUIT COEPTIS” mean “our enterprise (conspiracy) has been crowned with success.” Below, “NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM” explains the nature of the enterprise: a “New Social Order” or a “New World Order”.

1785 – An Illuminati courier named Lanze is struck by lightning, and killed while traveling by horseback through the town of Ratisbon. When Bavarian officials examine the contents of his saddle bags, they discover the existence of the Order of the Illuminati, and find plans detailing the coming French Revolution. The Bavarian Government attempts to alert the government of France of impending disaster, but the French Government fails to heed this warning. Bavarian officials arrest all members of the Illuminati they can find, but Weishaupt and others have gone underground, and cannot be found.

1796 – Freemasonry becomes a major issue in the presidential election in the United States. John Adams wins the election by opposing Masonry, and his son, John Quincy Adams, warns of the dire threat to the nation posed by the Masonic Lodges: “I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring.”

1797 – John Robison, Professor of Natural History at Edinburgh University in Scotland, publishes a book entitled “Proofs of a Conspiracy” in which he reveals that Adam Weishaupt had attempted to recruit him. He exposes the diabolical aims of the Illuminati to the world.

1821 – George W. F. Hegel formulates what is called the Hegelian dialectic – the process by which Illuminati objectives are achieved. According to the Hegelian dialectic, thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis. In other words, first you foment a crisis. Then there is an enormous public outcry that something must be done about the problem. So you offer a solution that brings about the changes you really wanted all along, but which people would have been unwilling to accept initially.

1828 – Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who finances the Illuminati, expresses his utter contempt for national governments which attempt to regulate International Bankers such as him:
“Allow me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who writes the laws.”
1848 — Moses Mordecai Marx Levy, alias Karl Marx, writes “The Communist Manifesto.” Marx is a member of an Illuminati front organization called the League of the Just. He not only advocates economic and political changes; he advocates moral and spiritual changes as well. He believes the family should be abolished, and that all children should be raised by a central authority. He expresses his attitude toward God by saying:
“We must war against all prevailing ideas of religion, of the state, of country, of patriotism. The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed.”
Jan. 22, 1870 – In a letter to Italian revolutionary leader Giuseppe Mazzini, Albert Pike – Sovereign Grand Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry – announces the establishment of a secret society within a secret society:
“We must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree of whom we shall select. With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledges to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown.”
This ultra-secret organization is called The New and Reformed Paladian Rite. (This is why about 95% of the men involved in Masonry don’t have a clue as to what the objectives of the organization actually are. They are under the delusion that it’s just a fine community organization doing good works.)

1875 – Russian occultist Helena Petrovna Blavatsky founds the Theosophical Society. Madame Blavatsky claims that Tibetan holy men in the Himilayas, whom she refers to as the Masters of Wisdom, communicated with her in London by telepathy. She insists that the Christians have it all backwards – that Satan is good, and God is evil. She writes:
“The Christians and scientists must be made to respect their Indian betters. The Wisdom of India, her philosophy and achievement, must be made known in Europe and America.”
1884 – The Fabian Society is founded in Great Britain to promote Socialism. The Fabian Society takes its name from the Roman General Fabius Maximus, who fought Hannibal’s army in small debilitating skirmishes, rather than attempting one decisive battle.

July 14, 1889 – Albert Pike issues instructions to the 23 Supreme Councils of the world. He reveals who is the true object of Masonic worship:
“To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.”
1890-1896 – Cecil Rhodes, an enthusiastic student of John Ruskin, is Prime Minister of South Africa, a British colony at the time. He is able to exploit and control the gold and diamond wealth of South Africa. He works to bring all the habitable portions of the world under the domination of a ruling elite. To that end, he uses a portion of his vast wealth to establish the famous Rhodes Scholarships.

1893 – The Theosophical Society sponsors a Parliament of World Religions held in Chicago. The purpose of the convention is to introduce Hindu and Buddhist concepts, such as belief in reincarnation, to the West.

1911 – The Socialist Party of Great Britain publishes a pamphlet entitled “Socialism and Religion” in which they clearly state their position on Christianity:

“It is therefore a profound truth that Socialism is the natural enemy of religion. A Christian Socialist is in fact an anti-Socialist. Christianity is the antithesis of Socialism.”

1912 – Colonel Edward Mandell House, a close advisor of President Woodrow Wilson, publishes “Phillip Dru: Administrator”, in which he promotes “socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx.”

Feb. 3, 1913 – The 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, making it possible for the Federal Government to impose a progressive income tax, is ratified. Plank #2 of “The Communist Manifesto” had called for a progressive income tax. (In Canada, the income tax is introduced in 1917, as a “temporary measure” to finance the war effort.)

1913 – President Woodrow Wilson publishes “The New Freedom” in which he reveals:
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
Dec. 23, 1913 – The Federal Reserve (neither federal nor a reserve – it’s a privately owned institution) is created. It was planned at a secret meeting in 1910 on Jekyl Island, Georgia, by a group of bankers and politicians, including Col. House. This transfers the power to create money from the American Government to a private group of bankers. The Federal Reserve Act is hastily passed just before the Christmas break. Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. (father of the famed aviator) warns:
“This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this act the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust Investigation, will be legalized.”
1916 – Three years after signing the Federal Reserve Act into law, President Woodrow Wilson observes:
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
1917 – With aid from Financiers in New York City and London, V. I. Lenin is able to overthrow the government of Russia. Lenin later comments on the apparent contradiction of the links between prominent capitalists and Communism:
“There also exists another alliance – at first glance a strange one, a surprising one – but if you think about it, in fact, one which is well grounded and easy to understand. This is the alliance between our Communist leaders and your capitalists.”
(Remember the Hegelian dialectic?)

May 30, 1919 – Prominent British and American personalities establish the Royal Institute of International Affairs in England and the Institute of International Affairs in the U.S. at a meeting arranged by Col. House; attended by various Fabian socialists, including noted economist John Maynard Keynes.

1920 – Britain’s Winston Churchill recognizes the connection between the Illuminati and the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. He observes:
“From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bela Kun, Rosa Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.
It played a definitely recognizable role in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century, and now at last this band of extra- ordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads, and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
1920-1931 – Louis T. McFadden is Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Curency. Concerning the Federal Reserve, Congressman McFadden notes:
“When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by International Bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.
Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is – the Fed has usurped the Government. It controls everything here, and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will.” Concerning the Great Depression and the country’s acceptance of FDR’s New Deal, he asserts: “It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. The International Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as the rulers of us all.”
1921 – Col. House reorganizes the American branch of the Institute of International Affairs into the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). (For the past 60 years, 80% of the top positions in every administration – whether Democrat or Republican – have been occupied by members of this organization.)

December 15, 1922 – The CFR endorses World Government in its magazine “Foreign Affairs.” Author Philip Kerr states:
“Obviously there is going to be no peace nor prosperity for mankind as long as the earth remains divided into 50 or 60 independent states, until some kind of international system is created. The real problem today is that of world government.”
1928 – “The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution” by H. G. Wells is published. A former Fabian socialist, Wells writes:
“The political world of the Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate, and supersede existing governments. The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms; it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York. The character of the Open Conspiracy will now be plainly displayed. It will be a world religion.”
1933 – “The Shape of Things to Come” by H. G. Wells is published. Wells predicts a second world war around 1940, originating from a German-Polish dispute. After 1945, there would be an increasing lack of public safety in “criminally infected” areas. The plan for the “Modern World State” would succeed on its third attempt, and come out of something that occurred in Basra, Iraq. The book also states:
“Although world government had been plainly coming for some years, although it had been endlessly feared and murmured against, it found no opposition anywhere.”
Nov. 21, 1933 – In a letter to Col. Edward M. House, President Franklin Roosevelt writes:
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
March 1942 – An article in “TIME” magazine chronicles the Federal Council of Churches (which later becomes the National Council of Churches, a part of the World Council of Churches) lending its weight to efforts to establish a global authority.

A meeting of the top officials of the council comes out in favor of:

1) a world government of delegated powers;
2) strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty;
3) international control of all armies and navies.

Representatives (375 of them) of 30-some denominations assert that “a new order of economic life is both imminent and imperative” – a new order that is sure to come either “through voluntary cooperation within the framework of democracy or through explosive revolution.”

June 28, 1945 – U.S. President Harry Truman endorses world government in a speech:
“It will be just as easy for nations to get along in a republic of the world as it is for us to get along in a republic of the United States.”
October 24, 1945 – The United Nations Charter becomes effective. Also on October 24, Senator Glen Taylor (D-Idaho) introduces Senate Resolution 183, calling upon the U.S. Senate to go on record as favoring creation of a world republic, including an international police force.

Feb. 7, 1950 – International financier and CFR member James Warburg tells a Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee:
“We shall have world government whether or not you like it – by conquest or consent.”
Feb. 9, 1950 – The Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee introduces Senate Concurrent Resolution #66 which begins:
“Whereas, in order to achieve universal peace and justice, the present Charter of the United Nations should be changed to provide a true world government constitution.”
1952 – The World Association of Parliamentarians for World Government draws up a map designed to illustrate how foreign troops would occupy and police the six regions into which the United States and Canada will be divided as part of their world-government plan.

1954 – Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands establishes the Bilderbergers: international politicians and bankers who meet secretly on an annual basis.

1961 – The U.S. State Department issues Document 7277, entitled “Freedom From War: The U.S. Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World.” It details a three-stage plan to disarm all nations and arm the U.N. with the final stage in which “no state would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened U.N. Peace Force.”

1966 – Professor Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton’s mentor at Georgetown University, authors a massive volume entitled “Tragedy and Hope” in which he states:
“There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so.
I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims, and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies, but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.”
April 1972 – In his keynote address to the Association for Childhood Education International, Chester M. Pierce, Professor of Education and Psychiatry in the Faculty of Medicine at Harvard University, proclaims:
“Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our founding fathers, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being. It’s up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international child of the future.”
July 1973 – International banker and staunch member of the subversive Council on Foreign Relations, David Rockefeller, founds a new organization called the Trilateral Commission, of which the official aim is “to harmonize the political, economic, social, and cultural relations between the three major economic regions in the world” (hence the name “Trilateral”). He invites future President Jimmy Carter to become one of the founding members. Zbigniew Brzezinski is the organization’s first director.

There are three major economic areas in the world: Europe, North America, and the Far East (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.). If, under the pretext of having to join forces to be able to face economic competition with the two other economic regions, the member countries of each of these three regions decide to merge into one single country, forming three super-States, then the one-world government will be almost achieved. Like Fabian socialists, they achieve their ultimate goal (a world government) step by step.

This aim is almost achieved in Europe with the Single European Act (Maastricht Treaty) that was implemented in 1993, requiring all the member countries of the European Community to abolish their trade barriers, and to hand over their monetary and fiscal policies to the technocrats of the European Commission in Brussels, Belgium.

In January, 2002, all these European countries abandoned their national currencies to share only one common currency, the “Euro”. Moreover, the Nice Treaty removed more powers from countries to give them over to the European Commission. What begun innocently in 1952 as the EEC (European Economic Community, a common authority to regulate the coal and steel industry among European nations), finally turned into a European super-state.

Jean Monnet, a French socialist economist and founder of the EEC, had this in mind when he said: “Political union inevitably follows economic union.” He also said in 1948:
“The creation of a United Europe must be regarded as an essential step towards the creation of a United World.”
As regards the North American area, the merger of its member countries is well under way with the passage of free trade between Canada and the U.S.A., and then Mexico. In the next few years, this free-trade agreement is supposed to include also all of South and Central America, with a single currency for them all.

Mexico’s President Vucente Fox said on May 6, 2002, in Madrid:
“Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union.”
1973 – The Club of Rome, a U.N. operative, issues a report entitled “Regionalized and Adaptive Model of the Global World System.” This report divides the entire world into ten kingdoms.

1979 – FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, is given huge powers. It has the power, in case of “national emergency”, to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant, and hold them without trial. It can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution.

Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order. An Executive Order becomes law simply by a signature of the U.S. President; it does not even have to be approved by the Representatives or Senators in the Congress.

A state of “national emergency” could be a terrorist attack, a natural disaster, or a stock market crash, for example. Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years, and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:

# 10995: Right to seize all communications media in the United States.

# 10997: Right to seize all electric power, fuels and minerals, both public and private.

# 10999: Right to seize all means of transportation, including personal vehicles of any kind, and total control of highways, seaports, and waterways.

# 11000: Right to seize any and all American people and divide up families in order to create work forces to be transferred to any place the Government sees fit.

# 11001: Right to seize all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.

# 11002: Right to force registration of all men, women, and children in the United States.

# 11003: Right to seize all air space, airports, and aircraft.

# 11004: Right to seize all housing and finance authorities in order to establish “Relocation Designated Areas”, and to force abandonment of areas classified as “unsafe”.

# 11005: Right to seize all railroads, inland waterways, and storage facilities, both public and private.

# 11921: Authorizes plans to establish Government control of wages and salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions.

1991 – President George Bush Sr. praises the New World Order in a State of the Union Message:
“What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea – a new world order… to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind... based on shared principles and the rule of law… The illumination of a thousand points of light... The winds of change are with us now.”
(Theosophist Alice Bailey used that very same expression – “points of light” – in describing the process of occult enlightenment.)

June, 1991 – World leaders are gathered for another closed door meeting of the Bilderberg Society in Baden Baden, Germany. While at that meeting, David Rockefeller said in a speech:
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
Oct. 29, 1991 – David Funderburk, former U.S. Ambassador to Romania, tells a North Carolina audience:

“George Bush has been surrounding himself with people who believe in one-world government. They believe that the Soviet system and the American system are converging.”

May 21, 1992 – In an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting in Evian, France, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger declares:
“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence.
It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”
July 20, 1992 – “TIME” magazine publishes “The Birth of the Global Nation,” by Strobe Talbott, Rhodes Scholar, roommate of Bill Clinton at Oxford University, CFR Director and Trilateralist (and appointed Deputy Secretary of State by President Clinton), in which he writes:
“Nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority... All countries are basically social arrangements... No matter how permanent or even sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and temporary... Perhaps national sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all... But it has taken the events in our own wondrous and terrible century to clinch the case for world government.”
1993 – A second Parliament of World Religions is held in Chicago on the 100th anniversary of the first. Like the first convention, this one seeks to join all the religions of the world into “one harmonious whole,” but it wants to make them “merge back into their original element.” Traditional beliefs of monotheistic religions such as Christianity are considered incompatible with individual “en- lightenment”, and must be drastically altered.

July 18, 1993 – CFR member and Trilateralist Henry Kissinger writes in the “Los Angeles Times” concerning NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement):
“What Congress will have before it is not a conventional trade agreement but the architecture of a new international system…a first step toward a new world order.”
1994 – In the Human Development Report, published by the UN Development Program, there was a section called “Global Governance for the 21st Century.” The administrator for this program was appointed by Bill Clinton. His name is James Gustave Speth. The opening sentence of the report said:
“Mankind’s problems can no longer be solved by national government. What is needed is a world government. This can best be achieved by strengthening the United Nations system.”
May 3, 1994 – President Bill Clinton signs Presidential Decision Directive 25, and then declares it classified so the American people can’t see what it says.

(The summary of PDD-25 issued to members of Congress tells us that it authorizes the President to turn over control of U.S. military units to U.N. command.)

Sept. 23, 1994 – The globalists realize that as more and more people begin to wake up to what’s going on, they have only a limited amount of time in which to implement their policies. Speaking at the United Nations Ambassadors’ dinner, David Rockefeller remarks:
“This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long… We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
March 1995 – U.N. delegates meet in Copenhagen, Denmark, to discuss various methods for imposing global taxes on the people of the world.

Sept. 1995 – “Popular Science” magazine describes a top secret U.S. Navy installation called HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) in the state of Alaska. This project beams powerful radio energy into the earth’s upper atmosphere. One of the goals of the program is to develop the capability of “manipulating local weather” using the techniques developed by Bernard Eastlund.

(The program has been underway since 1990.)

September 27, 1995 – The State of the World Forum took place in the fall of this year, sponsored by the Gorbachev Foundation located at the Presidio in San Francisco. Foundation President Jim Garrison chairs the meeting of who’s-who from around the world, including Margaret Thatcher, Maurice Strong, George Bush, Mikhail Gorbachev, and others.

Conversation centers around the oneness of mankind and the coming global government. However, the term “global gov- ernance” is now used in place of “new world order” since the latter has become a political liability, being a lightning rod for opponents of global government.

1996 – The United Nations’ 420-page report “Our Global Neighborhood” is published. It outlines a plan for “global governance,” calling for an international “Conference on Global Governance” in 1998 for the purpose of submitting to the world the necessary treaties and agreements for ratification by the year 2000.

2003 - The world is on the verge of another global war, the “state of emergency” looked for by the one-worlders to impose martial law and the universal microchip under the skin... But with the global shift in awareness, they will not have the last word!

Published in 2002 by Michael, MichaelJournal; additions by Alexander Light, HumansAreFree.com; - See more at: http://humansarefree.com/2013/10/the-complete-history-of-freemasonry-and.html#sthash.jceCL35f.dpuf
 
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You should see distractions in my country...We are kings and queens of talking and fighting over little things while big elephant is sitting in our living rooms:)
 
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Absolutely. I don't watch TV radio, or read newspapers.
The mainstream media does everything it can to suppress knowledge.
There are things happening in the world today that they wouldn't want us to know about.
I use the David Icke Forum as my news source.
There is The People's Voice TV too.
Highly recommended.
 
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And yet another....this is charity to the rich....
http://www.alternet.org/economy/rich-peoples-idea-charity

yeah it doesn't look like help is coming from the rich!

U2 lead singer Bono's charity was found to be only paying 1% of its money to the cause it was supposedly set up for. Much of it was being paid to Bonos friends. here's a piece about it. it also talks about how Bill gates is also involved in a global fund scam:

https://4add.wordpress.com/2011/01/...ti-poverty-foundation-one-funds-to-charities/

It also looks like government aid is a money laundering scheme: http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/is-government-aid-a-giant-money-laundering-scheme/
 
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I dislike Bono very much. Also Chris Martin and Bob Geldof. Terrible hypocrites.
I also despise celebrity charities. Comic Relief and Children in Need.
When people come and rattle their tins at me I tell them to push off.
Charity begins at home. I'd rather give my money to the local animal shelter that to bloody celebrities in need.
The BBC ought to be ashamed of themselves, still keeping this fraud going year after year.
The public would be horrified if they knew where their money really went, squandered on bad investments or the arms trade.
 
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I dislike Bono very much. Also Chris Martin and Bob Geldof. Terrible hypocrites.
I also despise celebrity charities. Comic Relief and Children in Need.
When people come and rattle their tins at me I tell them to push off.
Charity begins at home. I'd rather give my money to the local animal shelter that to bloody celebrities in need.
The BBC ought to be ashamed of themselves, still keeping this fraud going year after year.
The public would be horrified if they knew where their money really went, squandered on bad investments or the arms trade.

The Big Brother Corporation are part of the whole oligarchic network though aren't they?

I ditched my TV and use the internet so i don't pay any licence fee money to those sell outs

The public are i think waking up....but they are waking up to a nightmare and that is not an easy thing to wake upto!

Bodies like the BBC and the corporate media have weaved a spell over people. many are living in a parallel reality where everything is okay, the immigrants are to blame for everything, geldof is a hero, the queen cares about her people, all arabs are unstable and a host of other tabloid distortions of reality!

Its quite incredible

The last place i lived in was outside a major city. I had a really clear view of the skies over the city. I could watch planes come and go from the international airport from my sitting room.

Some planes left only a brief 'contrail' whislt others that crossed the skies on unconventional flight paths left lingering chemtrails that would widen and slowly drop down to earth. They would lace the skies above the city with these trails that would after a time begin to look like tufts of clouds. This is a city with millions of people living in it who are breathing that shit in. Following the crisscrossing of the skies with chemtrails the sky would fill with clouds and the wind would get up

I'm at a point now where i know when i see the chemtrails what is going to happen next and can startle people with my predictions...because it follows the same pattern each time

There are times when i'm standing watching these massive trails being drawn acros the skies above our heads and i look around at the people around me and think ''why can't they see it its so obvious!''

No one is looking up! No one is paying any attention

I've thought about ways to publicise this issue. I tried to start an online campaign and I thought about handing out leaflets but if you walk around a park and hand leaflets to people that basically inform them that there is a secret program to drop toxic metal particulates on them and that they and their children are breathing it in and their crops and water supplies are being infected as well you kind of rain on their parade a bit!!!!

So I'm just grateful that there are people like David Ike and the peoples voice to raise awareness about these issues because the best the mainstream corporate media have managed so far is to talk about declassified spraying programmes carried out in the past or 'weather modification' funding by the CIA which doesn't really get across the scale of this ongoing operation
 
Are you on David Icke Forum, @muir ?

No but i've been meaning to join

I want to suggest to people there that they need to spread out across the internet and spread the info about

I know people can go there to learn and share what they know but anyone there probably already has a good grasp of what is going on so they are preaching to the converted in that sense

They are a sleeping army who need to take their message to the world!

How about yourself, do you use the forum?
 
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Check this out----->

Tax-avoiding, consumer-exploiting big business leaders are largely responsible for these abuses. Congress just lets it happen. Corporate heads and members of Congress seem incapable of relating to the people that are being victimized, and the mainstream media seems to have lost the ability to express the views of lower-income Americans.
1. Corporations Profit from Food Stamps
It's odd to think about billion-dollar financial institutions objecting to cuts in the SNAP program, but some of them are administrators of the program, collecting fees from a benefit meant for children and other needy Americans, and enjoying subsidies of state tax money for services that could be performed by the states themselves. They want more people on food stamps, not less. Three corporations have cornered the market: JP Morgan, Xerox, and eFunds Corp.
According to a JP Morgan spokesman, the food stamp program "is a very important business to JP Morgan. It's an important business in terms of its size and scale...The good news from JP Morgan's perspective is the infrastructure that we built has been able to cope with that increase in volume.."
2. Crash the Economy, Get Your Money Back. Die with a Student Loan, Stay in Debt.
The financial industry has manipulated the bankruptcy laws to ensure that high-risk derivatives, which devastated the market in 2008, have FIRST CLAIM over savings deposit insurance, pension funds, and everything else.
But the same banker-friendly "bankruptcy reform" has ensured that college graduates keep their student loans till they die. And sometimes even after that, as the debt is assumed by their co-signing parents.

3. Almost 70% of Corporations Are Not Required to Pay ANY Federal Taxes
And that's even before tax avoidance kicks in. The 'nontaxable' designation exempts 69% of U.S. corporations from taxes, thus sparing them the expense of hiring tax lawyers to contrive tax avoidance strategies.
The Wall Street Journal states, "The percentage of U.S. corporations organized as nontaxable businesses has grown from about 24% in 1986 to about 69% as of 2008, according to the latest-available Internal Revenue Service data. The percentage of all firms is far higher when partnerships and sole proprietors are included."
In recent years the businesses taking advantage of the exemption include law firms, hedge funds, real estate partnerships, venture capital firms, and investment banks.
4. Lotteries Pay for Corporate Tax Avoidance
This means revenue comes from the poorest residents of a community rather than from billion-dollar corporations. Many of the lottery players don't realize how bad the odds are. Fill out $2 tickets for 12 hours a day for 50 years and you'll have half a chance of winning.
Some astonishing facts reveal the extent of the problem. Low-income households spend anywhere from fiveto nine percent of their earnings on lotteries. A Pennsylvania survey found that nearly half of low-income residents planned to gamble at a newly-opened casino. America's gambling losses in 2007 were nine times greater than just 25 years before.
5. The National Football League Pays No Federal Taxes
One of the most profitable organizations in America, with billions in tickets, TV rights, and merchandise sales, and with an NFL Commissioner who earned more money than the CEOs of Wal-Mart, Coca-Cola, and AT&T, is considered a non-profit. It has a tax-exempt status.
It gets even worse. While the individual teams themselves are not exempt from federal taxes, they enjoy multi-million-dollar subsidies from their states for new and refurbished stadiums. Fans - and non-fans - of the Washington Redskins, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Minnesota Vikings, the Seattle Seahawks, the San Francisco 49ers, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are among those who pay taxes for their hometown football fields. New Orleans taxpayers paid for leather stadium seats. For the Dallas Cowboys, a $6 million property tax bill was waived.
A Harvard University urban planning study determined that 70 percent of the capital cost of NFL stadiums has been provided by taxpayers, rather than by NFL owners.
6. Live on Park Avenue, Get a Farm Subsidy
A disturbing but fascinating report called "Farm Subsidies and the Big Dogs" lists Washington, DC, Chicago, and New York City, in that order, as the worst offenders.
--- In New York, "Many entities receive the federal subsidies at their downtown office buildings, such as 30 Rockefeller Plaza, or at their million dollar residential condos."
--- In Chicago, "Nearly every neighborhood in the city receives federal farm subsidy payments - including the Gold Coast, Downtown-Loop, Lincoln Park, and even the President's neighbors in Hyde Park."
--- In Washington, "Even U.S. Senators are receiving farm subsidy checks."
Perhaps more of us should become farmers. In Florida, according to Forbes, "anyone could legally qualify their land as farmland by stocking it with a few cows." Wealthy heir Mark Rockefeller received $342,000 to NOT farm, to allow his Idaho land to return to its natural state.
7. Profit Margin Magic: Turning a dollar into $100,000
Both printer ink and bottled water cost the consumer more than they should. Calculations by DataGenetics reveal that the ink in a $16.99 cartridge comes to almost $3,400 per gallon. The cost of a gallon of cartridge ink would buy enough gasoline to run the average car for over two years.
Water seems to cost less than that, until the details are factored in. Companies buy public water at almost no cost, treat it in unknown ways, and then sell it back to us at an exorbitant markup. Nestle, for example, pays about two dollars for public water that produces about 100,000 plastic bottles of water.
So This Is Capitalism..

Consumer-exploiting, tax-avoiding, profit-maximizing, responsibility-shirking, winner-take-all capitalism. An economic system which, as Milton Friedman once believed, "distributes the fruits of economic progress among all people."
 
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