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Why you shouldn't get your news "American" (an opinion piece)

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This is not necessarily news, but it is relevant to news so I thought I would type this up. It is something I have been thinking of a great deal and I wanted to share my thoughts.

It will be impossible to explain the difficulties of American News fully but I will try my best. In American News, it is a very common custom for them to be for-profit or for non-profit newspapers to be sponsored entirely by ads. In America we are having a phenomenon where large companies have bought out the media- every news channel is owned by a super power corporation and therefore you're going to see a lot of bias when reading the news. Newspapers in general, it isn't that the people writing the articles want to be inaccurate, it's that they are so connected with companies to the point that the companies will plant articles in favor of their companies inside of the newspapers. Even if you are online, if you're reading a review written supposedly by a person, these companies, mainly American, will hire people to falsify reviews...these are usually just regular people and they are paid a certain amount and they go online and write favorable reviews and nasty comments on things that are in disfavor of this company. This is called "Astroturfing".

So it gets to the point that if you have a story that is not in the best interest of your company in some way or the other, or you have some information you don't want getting out to the public because it might effect a political campaign that you are supporting as a company (For, face it, in American politician are now commodities that are bought and sold like the fruit at stores), you will hire someone with a respected name to write an article in your favor and plant that on the front page of The New York times. The reality is that the top stories in American newspaper are not the top stories elsewhere and you will find that when you actually begin to investigate it.

I also want to talk about celebrity news. This is something that I personally believe is a tactic of distraction and ignorance. Media companies, owned now by the biggest corporations in the country, have discovered one of mankind's most natural weaknesses: our curiosity into other people's lives. I do not think that being curious about other people is something that is bad nor is it something that can be stopped. The best example I use to put in perspective is that, if you find someone you've just met and you have added them to Facebook or something and you find them interesting or maybe you don't know a lot about them, you will began to "stalk" them online and find things out about them. It is natural curiosity, I believe most people have done this and I don't think it's bad, a lot of the time it has to do with even protecting ourselves. It is a good thing to look up if someone has a criminal record or to try to figure out their reputation or if we stumble upon something that ends up making this person we are interacting with harmful, it is ideal to know these things ahead of time.

So if you take our natural curiosity into other people's lives on the most basic level- people that we know in real life but not very well- and we exploit it to an unimaginable degree, we find that what has happened is the media's celebrity obsession. They say that there is demand and supply- that people want to know this much about celebrities and so that demand causes there to be a lot of information about it. But I believe that the demand is not as high as the supply- you will find that although there is a large percentage of the population interested in that sort of thing, that a lot of these people have been raised on it like cattle. Their curiosity is being fed by these glamorous people and in the end the media succeeds at what they wanted- people are too busy thinking about their favorite music artists and movie stars to worry about what news is being censored and how they are being fed lies throughout the entire American News Industry. Not only are they consumed by curiosity, but the new brand of people being marketed "American Idol" and other shows which say "You too can be a celebrity, you too can be famous" seem to feed to this frenzy and take people further away from caring about News.

Look at this logically: there are about 6 billion people on the surface of the planet. Statistics right now say that if you were to try to count to a billion, it would take you the rest of your life and you still would not reach a billion, this assuming you did nothing else but count, no sleeping no eating, nothing. So keep that in perspective...everyone wants their fifteen minutes of fame. Let's say that we just give all of the people of New York 15 minutes of fame each. There are about 8 million people who live there. There are 525,948.766 minutes in a year, so let's round that to about 525,000 minutes a year. Per year if nothing else was done there could be 35,000 people who got their fifteen minutes of fame. Now remember, we're trying to give the entire city of New York every person 15 minutes of fame. If we calculate all of this together, in conclusion, it would take about 229.5 years to give everyone in New York City 15 minutes of fame. Hopefully this illustrates my point.

There is something called the "Freedom of Press Index" that I believe is a very useful tool. Obviously it is not something that should be believed blindly, but I have recently taken it upon myself to use it and try to consume news from the freest press countries. The USA is the 20th freest press in the world and our island countries that are part of the USA are 99th. There are a lot of countries, mostly Scandinavian, that are tied for the position of the freest press in the world right now.

For the longest time it seems that American Colleges have switched from recommending American economic magazines and whatnot for class purpose to British news; and that may be because British press is freer than us (at rank 19th) but currently only by one ranking which is still poor if you consider yourself someone who wants to be getting the 'full' uncensored scoop.

I found in my research that a lot of places like Sweden and Finland and Switzerland actually distribute newspapers for free as a sort of public service. I guess the closest I can relate to this is National Public Radio. But besides a language barrier (Which is easily solved by using google chrome 'google translate' extensions) I have been able to see that then news I get from these sources, often Americans have never heard of and I learn about things much faster than I would if only consuming American news (and more accurately). For those of you who would still like to read in English, New Zealand is available and 8th freest press which is more than half a higher score.

The reason I find Sweden so interesting is that at Sundance this year I watched the film "Big Boys Gone Bananas", which you should watch if you're interested in this sort of thing, which is all about how a Swedish film maker was trying to get out a film about Dole, the fruit company, and some injustices they did to Latin American workers that resulted in death and illness because of illegal pesticides used on crops. This film almost was not shown at the film festival they were planning for it to be shown at because even before the film had been shown anywhere, Dole sued the film maker for defamation. There were a lot of hoops to jump through and I believe it has only recently become available in American availability. However, most pressing of this is that the Swedish Parliament actually stepped in to defend the film maker, Fredrik Gertten, and his right to freedom of speech. Sweden has a history of being skeptical of American News companies and I believe this is the case for a lot of Europe. As I read more and more into Swedish culture I am reading that most of Europe has had a lot of cultural shock when American customs and and American media and things of that nature leaked into Europe.

So I suppose the point I am trying to make here is that prior to some critical thinking, I thought that if I read The New York times a generally liberal newspaper, and if I watched news other than Fox, etc....that I would be getting accurate news. This is not so...and I suggest that if you are going to go to other countries to get news, you look at more than one country that are also in different geographic location. For example a lot of the freest press countries are right next to each other in Scandinavia. They are going to have a perspective that may be influenced by this...so this is why I go to New Zealand and other countries from different areas that are rated higher than the United States.
 
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I would like your guys' thoughts on this
 
Good public news is hard to come by.

My suggestion: Assemble an editorial team (no journalistic team) and open an internet news agency, which takes news submissions from aspiring journalists, professional journalists (anonymously), and occasional writers.

Funding could easily come through google targeted ads, which, being tailored to the user, are less likely to set any agenda.

The only fundamental lynch-pin necessary to keep the newspaper unbiased, would be to ensure the founders/editors are extremely passionate about free media, without being left-wing fundamentalists.
 
I believe that clearly stating your bias is the best way to be unbiased. This is why I get annoyed when Lou Dobbs (aka Lou Blow Jobbs) claims to be the "last unbiased journalist in America". By claiming to be unbiased he is inherently being biased. Because all news is biased whether it's intentional or not. Thanks to technology we are living in the "age of a million truths" so we don't have to listen to Lou Dobbs if we don't want to. More information is available to us now than ever before. Unfortunately lots of people don't understand what an information bubble is. They don't understand that we all live in our own little information bubble and reaching outside that bubble requires constant effort.
 
All news is biased, much like chulo said, and often has sloppy fact-checking as well. You can’t believe everything you hear or read, and the more sensational or outrageous it is, the less true it is, usually. Try your very best to get more than one side of every story, and you will come closest to truth.

My personal news rating system goes something like this:
1. IPR and NPR = Awesome journalism (the lady in your video is from IPR, that programming is widely available and easily accessible — and Free with no commercials -- in the US. Love it.)
2. Viewing international news sources = Excellent benefit of being alive and having an internet connection in 2012.
3. Paying attention to local news = Well, don’t you want to know if a tornado or a child molester is loose in your neighborhood? I do. This sort of interest in local issues is probably a universal phenomenon, and for pretty good reasons, I should think.
4. Sitting around watching cable news all day = Bad, expensive and unhealthy.
5. Sites like God Like Productions and Above Top Secret = Crazy waste of your time
(“Deny ignorance. “– Above Top Secret's motto, told like gospel on their site. Unfortunately this would mean that they essentially deny themselves.) Oddly, my IP address has been blocked from God Like Productions, and I have absolutely no idea why, as I’ve never participated in any of their forums at all, even once. There’s a message telling me I must have an “upgraded account” to lift the ban and have access to their material, to put an end to my ignorance. I think I will pass on that offer. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Above_Top_Secret and http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Godlike_Productions sums up my opinion of sites like these very nicely.
6. Radio talk show hosts on both sides of the political spectrum exist merely to rile people up, which makes ratings go up, and advertising revenue go up, so unless you enjoy having your emotions manipulated for profit, ignore them completely​
That is my take on the matter! :D
 
I have a simple approach to news, read what I find entertaining on the internet and only focus on local news for information.
 
oh lawd. the news has never been unbiased. are you kidding me. And please, PLEASE stop referencing sweden as some place thats actually worth going to. It sucks in every single aspect save the almost cliche lesbian goth chick whos a "math genius" and hacker.


American anything, just about 9/10 is better than European anything. This includes the news.
 
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I'm not sure I trust this OP... aren't you American? anyway...

I found in my research that a lot of places like Sweden and Finland and Switzerland actually distribute newspapers for free as a sort of public service.

Well, in Sweden there's just Metro (free ad-funded paper accessible at large public transit stations, available in many other countries including some American cities), which is the most sensationalist garbage around apart from pure gossip magazines, and local papers with non-news. Other than that two of the biggest news sources (SR, SVT) are state-owned, a few major newspapers (including the by far most widespread in the country, Aftonbladet) have views that explicitly align with political parties, and many get financing from the state. This is obviously a problem for neutrality, since the consequences of the people's choices are marginalized in favor of the state.

The culture shock when confronted with America isn't that odd, since the narrative of America has Obama as the Only Sane Man, while everyone else drinks butter and dislikes Romney because he's a Mormon.

I assume you read about the Press Freedom Index's methodology? It's not about attempting to directly measure accuracy, and the data is collected from questionnaires given to individual members of Reporters Without Borders (an organization with a total membership of about 120, it should be noted). It might have some value, but there probably are more relevant studies to go by.
 
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Given some of the replies, perhaps reading police reports and monitoring stock prices is the only way to get the facts without media bias. As for international and political affairs - become a politician and get into the thick of it.
 
Given some of the replies, perhaps reading police reports and monitoring stock prices is the only way to get the facts without media bias. As for international and political affairs - become a politician and get into the thick of it.

Police reports are very biased. Alleged criminals get no say in the police report. It is written completely by the officer who made the arrest and they can say virtually whatever they want.

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oh lawd. the news has never been unbiased. are you kidding me. And please, PLEASE stop referencing sweden as some place thats actually worth going to. It sucks in every single aspect save the almost cliche lesbian goth chick whos a "math genius" and hacker.


American anything, just about 9/10 is better than European anything. This includes the news.

She's Bisexual not homosexual
 
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I cannot find a full size image, but it gets the point across. Only a few corporations own all the press in the United States. Even if they do want to try to present events as they actually happen (and that includes focusing on all the important events), their bottom line is making money. They are businesses. I do find myself highly skeptical of much of what I read, especially about scientific articles. A lot of times, news reporters who have no or little scientific background will go read and misinterpret a study and then write an article about it. A lot of the news papers cater to political agendas as well.
 
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I found in my research that a lot of places like Sweden and Finland and Switzerland actually distribute newspapers for free as a sort of public service.

This should raise red flags, not prove how unbiased these countries are.
 
She's Bisexual not homosexual

haha. Yeah. My bad.


Note: Sorry Slant I didn't mean to go so ape shit on you. I was cranky.

What I -meant- to say, is every country has their own issues with news. And no one is exempt. While yes, true, outside countries can definitely add an "outside view" of the news, if you know what I mean. But at the same time there's no saying how accurate their news is. Also that Sweden comment was more just aimed at the fact that Sweden always tries to pretend its 'oh so great' but its slowly falling all over the place.


Anyways.
 
There was a study carried out that showed that people who watch Fox news are less well informed about global events than people who watch no news at all! (true story!)

I guess the best we can do is seek news from a number of different sources, the more independant the better.

Its easy to fall into the trap of living on a diet of corporate media because its spoon fed to us all the time but it definately rots the brain. With the internet its pretty easy to seek out and find a variety of sources for news in order to get different perspectives and to save them to your favourites.

The mainstream corporate media is not just about making money it is about creating peoples perceptions of reality. For example every comment within them however controversial will always be presented within a capitalistic framework to deny the existence of anything outside that.

An example would be when politicians on TV call other politicians 'socialist' when they are actually centrists.....this is to make the public believe that the centre is the left in order to deny the existence of the true left
 
You should be sorry Saru, you hurt my feel goods and made me not post until now for real
 
it was weird for me to first realize that dif newspapers report on dif things, i thought they would all say the same thing eventually, it was just a matter of who got the info first. but that isn't the case. from one newpaper to the next i see dif stories and dif perspectives on dif stories.

opinions on the Pope are pretty interesting right now. the newspapers don't officially say they support or oppose him, or support or oppose religion. But some will report on him more, some will barely ever talk about him, some will be critical, some hopeful. The Pope story is just one example. It's an interesting one though to observe.

i was reading a local french newspaper, I'm trying to improve my french, and i read an article on the Pope. Afterwords I looked for details on the story in English in an English newspapers, and just one had a few sentences on the story. i didnt look that much, but i thought that if one newspaper had a whole article on a topic, than all other major ones would too.

It also struck me as odd, because the French in Canada (where I am from), are generally viewed as very liberal, yet their newspaper was so positive about the Pope.

I guess a newspaper gives a window into the society that reads them. It's true newspapers are owned by corporations and filled with adds, but ppl still buy them. It speaks to the type of ppl as much as it does to the type of corporation.

I have no idea what the Pope example ultimately means, maybe they just have a religious writer on their staff. But i guess if i keep reading this French Canadian paper i'll have a better idea.