Do you have proof that god doesn't exist?
Do you know what the definition of faith is?
Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, thing or theory.
The English word faith is dated from 1200
Why so touchy about religion?
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Do you have proof that god doesn't exist?
Do you know what the definition of faith is?
Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, thing or theory.
The English word faith is dated from 1200
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Shai Gar
No, I don't have proof god doesn't exist.
Do you believe in the sock eating monster? Do you have proof he doesn't exist?
Do you believe in the sock eating monster? Do you have proof he doesn't exist?
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Shai Gar
I'm touchy about religion, particularly the two virulent strains of monotheism: Christianity and Islam. It's not the beliefs themselves that bother me. People have all kinds of wacky beliefs for all kinds of reasons. I'm ok with that. The thing I can't stand about those two religions is the way they tie belief to morality. Correct religious beliefs = Good. Incorrect religious beliefs = Bad. This concept is so insidious, manipulative, divisive, and dishonest. It's also extremely effective at preserving and spreading the meme. When the belief=morality idea is internalized, people will actively seek ways to confirm what they think are "good" beliefs and actively avoid information that appears to contradict "good" beliefs. These religions feed on the fact that almost everyone considers him/her self to be a "good" person. They essentially make any sort of truth-seeking "BAD" unless the truth being sought is the version of truth offered by the religion.
This way of looking at belief and morality has been applied to a lot of nonreligious beliefs, especially politics. So when there's a political disagreement, the other party isn't just wrong, they're EVIL.
What if I said that I BELIEVE that Satan was clearly acting in man's best interests when He rebelled against the bloodthirsty and sadistic Old Testament BibleGod? or that global warming isn't happening? or that the holocaust never happened? Would I be INCORRECT or would I be EVIL? Isn't it possible to be incorrect and good at the same time? If I had a good definition of "good", then I'd say I think it is.
This way of looking at belief and morality has been applied to a lot of nonreligious beliefs, especially politics. So when there's a political disagreement, the other party isn't just wrong, they're EVIL.
What if I said that I BELIEVE that Satan was clearly acting in man's best interests when He rebelled against the bloodthirsty and sadistic Old Testament BibleGod? or that global warming isn't happening? or that the holocaust never happened? Would I be INCORRECT or would I be EVIL? Isn't it possible to be incorrect and good at the same time? If I had a good definition of "good", then I'd say I think it is.
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Shai Gar
Yeah, but it does make it easier to argue against those religions.
Should use that against the Republicans XD. Atheists Against Evil
Theistic Satanism would agree with you.
Incorrect.
Correct
I went to watch 'the invention of lying' yesterday at the cinema, it was good. It raised points from this topic. Nobody could tell a lie so the bible wasn't written
p.s Us atheist's can have faith to you know
p.p.s There is nothing creepy with researching love, its a feeling, a chemical reaction in the brain that lasts roughly 2 years (the time it takes to have babies and bring them up to a less vunrable age). That does not take away what so ever from what it takes to maintain a marriage and stay loyal and faithful to a life partner. Science has gone there already and there is nothing wrong with it. I think that understanding the physiology of mind and brain is not a bad thing, it actually helps people.
p.s Us atheist's can have faith to you know
p.p.s There is nothing creepy with researching love, its a feeling, a chemical reaction in the brain that lasts roughly 2 years (the time it takes to have babies and bring them up to a less vunrable age). That does not take away what so ever from what it takes to maintain a marriage and stay loyal and faithful to a life partner. Science has gone there already and there is nothing wrong with it. I think that understanding the physiology of mind and brain is not a bad thing, it actually helps people.
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Shai Gar
Sure, but not faith in god.
I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow and the day after for a great many centuries to come.
I have faith that the book "A Memory of Light: The Gathering Storm" will be fantastic.
I have faith that my books will arrive from the book store within two months.
I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow and the day after for a great many centuries to come.
I have faith that the book "A Memory of Light: The Gathering Storm" will be fantastic.
I have faith that my books will arrive from the book store within two months.
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Shai Gar
I also wonder......
There are so many more interesting things to do than arguing for or against religions....
I don't mind religions, I never try to argue with believers, as long as they don't argue or "prove" things to me. I even participate in some rituals with friends of mine, because I admire their devotion. It's cute, and they are usually nice people.
About the irrationality of it - well, many cultural followings are as irrational and influential - in music, in art etc. People need to be irrational in some way, otherwise it would be too boring, I guess.
There are so many more interesting things to do than arguing for or against religions....
I don't mind religions, I never try to argue with believers, as long as they don't argue or "prove" things to me. I even participate in some rituals with friends of mine, because I admire their devotion. It's cute, and they are usually nice people.
About the irrationality of it - well, many cultural followings are as irrational and influential - in music, in art etc. People need to be irrational in some way, otherwise it would be too boring, I guess.