What is the Highest Form of Pleasure?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orgasm

 

Spoiler: Oh!

I think that Schopenhauer makes a good point. Firstly, becoming a parent is a lot of responsibility. After that, how does one justify the imposition of existence?

 

Ultimately meaningless, unless the intellectual pleasure leads to the accomplishment of a goal it's just intellectual onanism.

 

I think we're both watching his videos too much bucko.

Sort yourself out! Clean your room!

 

I think this whole thread is mental masturbation

Spoiler

JK...hahaha.
I think the highest form of pleasure is the feeling of love...it has it’s many offshoots, but love is central.

 

https://www.glamour.com/gallery/11-most-expensive-sex-toys

 

This might be a pseudo-problem founded on the presumption that very different kinds of delights can firstly be easily categorised under the labels "physical" and "intellectual", and secondly made commensurate both within the category (dancing versus singing) and against each other (physical versus intellectual). Yes, we call all kinds of nice feelings pleasures, but the concept is very vague and we have no universal scale. I guess we could use some materialist reduction like defining pleasure by dopamine level, but that would be very crude and hence not pleasurable enough to consider seriously.

So, if you want to find an answer, you must first define what you mean by pleasure. That's why Aristippus and Schopenhauer can come to such different conclusions: they are using different examples and different scales to define the concept itself, after which it is very easy to say that the examples you yourself provided demonstrate the highest forms of pleasure. Seems kind of circular, doesn't it? Or in any case, the conclusion is already present in the premise (which is the concept of pleasure you choose).

I think the real question might be: can there be a concept of pleasure that contains all these examples, intellectual and physical ones, in a way that makes them universally comparable to each other? I think the answer is no, because the way we judge the meaning, the duration, and the intensity of pleasure is highly subjective.

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that the devil's laughter quote referred to this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-coital_tristesse

I dunno, though, I never read Schopenhauer.

 

That Owl of Minerva quote has been following me around for the past few days (I'm reading a lot of philosophy of history) Now this is just spooky.