The Undiscovered Self C.G. Jung | INFJ Forum

The Undiscovered Self C.G. Jung

Discussion in 'Psychology and MBTI' started by ExhumedMorrison, Feb 12, 2021.

Share This Page

Watchers:
This thread is being watched by 3 users.
More threads by ExhumedMorrison
  1. ExhumedMorrison

    ExhumedMorrison Community Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    Threads:
    7
    Messages:
    444
    Featured Threads:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    598
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    No where.
    MBTI:
    none
    Has anyone else began reading this? I found myself perplexed at picking up this book at this particular part of my mbti/ life journey as I was literally feeling science was failing spirituality and vice versa. Wondering if it would be acceptable to start a thread off of the topic of this work.


     

    Attached Files:

    philostam, Stu, Asa and 5 others like this.
  2. John K

    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Threads:
    5
    Messages:
    7,487
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Likes Received:
    70,511
    Trophy Points:
    3,112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheshire, England
    MBTI:
    INFJ
    Enneagram:
    5W4 549
    It's a long time since I read this. I'm a great fan of Jung and I've just re-read Flying Saucers - A Modern Myth .... which was written at about the same time as The Undiscovered self. Fan is the wrong word really - he scratches one of my deepest itches in understanding what it's all about from a subjective viewpoint. I'm just as much fascinated by objective science, particularly in the physics of reality, the roots of our objective existence. Jung gives a wonderful insight into what it means to be a human being - and not just as we experience it consciously, but as we are in total. I think it's important to see that Jung is to our understanding of our own psyches what someone like Galileo is to modern physics - we have moved well past that level of insight in physics, but Jung himself recognised that we were all at a much earlier stage in understanding ourselves.

    I like that he is a magus - both scientific and magical. That's pure gold.

    Have you got the actual book, or are you using a reader? This is mine - I love the mirror cover which is dead right for this work:

    upload_2021-2-12_12-51-27.png


    The first few pages seem so relevant to the situation in the USA over the last few years - and not just in the USA either, but all over the world. People who have become squashed into emotional collectives for which there is no reasoning, and no sense of the utter eternal value of the individual. The internet has been a terrible agent in acting as a facilitating tool for this.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    Wyote, flower, philostam and 4 others like this.
  3. John K

    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Threads:
    5
    Messages:
    7,487
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Likes Received:
    70,511
    Trophy Points:
    3,112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheshire, England
    MBTI:
    INFJ
    Enneagram:
    5W4 549
    And welcome to the forum by the way. Are you a new member or someone who's been here before coming back with a new name? I ask because of what you call yourself ;) . If you are new here it's well worth introducing yourself in this part of the forum so that people know who you are and you can start to build relationships.

    https://www.infjs.com/forums/introductions.7/
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    flower, ExhumedMorrison and Hba5h65 like this.
  4. OP
    ExhumedMorrison

    ExhumedMorrison Community Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    Threads:
    7
    Messages:
    444
    Featured Threads:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    598
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    No where.
    MBTI:
    none
    We definitely all find different associations to the negativity that happens in our lives. I wonder too if the internet has much to do with this, but looking to our younger generations you can really see the intelligence and maturity in handling individualism and our similarity. I think that 911 was devastating and wars are known to bring back with it questions of government expectation and policy. I’m far more hopeful about our youth, though I’m sure the concern for the government will always be in question as much as our concern for each individual, I hold to that hope and understanding that we all grow through our struggles.
     
  5. John K

    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Threads:
    5
    Messages:
    7,487
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Likes Received:
    70,511
    Trophy Points:
    3,112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheshire, England
    MBTI:
    INFJ
    Enneagram:
    5W4 549
    The social struggles seem to echo those of each of us as individuals don’t they? It seems to be important for each generation to have its own struggle which frees it from its history. Without that conflict no generation would become emancipated from its predecessors. This isn’t just a game though - the stakes are very high every time, and for each generation the same risk is there of choosing what dehumanises. All too often that is the choice of the people. It’s like a drug that gives an immediate high, but destroys eventually.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. OP
    ExhumedMorrison

    ExhumedMorrison Community Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    Threads:
    7
    Messages:
    444
    Featured Threads:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    598
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    No where.
    MBTI:
    none
    :<3: You took my thought right out of my head. I stand corrected.
     
    flower, Sandie33 and John K like this.
  7. John K

    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Threads:
    5
    Messages:
    7,487
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Likes Received:
    70,511
    Trophy Points:
    3,112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheshire, England
    MBTI:
    INFJ
    Enneagram:
    5W4 549
    Oh I didn’t mean to do that! I’m just thinking out loud. I share your hopes for the younger generations too. They have to deal with their own dragons though like every other generation. I was born a few years after WW2 so the times are very different now. It seems to me that the greatest threat comes from the concentrated divisiveness in perspective inherent in the social media of the Internet. It polarises thinking and stops people from seeing truly anyone who thinks differently from themselves. I’d love to see what Jung made of it. I have a feeling there is a rich base of young folks who have a healthy rejection of all that nonsense though.

    :<3orange:
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    flower, ExhumedMorrison and Hba5h65 like this.
  8. OP
    ExhumedMorrison

    ExhumedMorrison Community Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    Threads:
    7
    Messages:
    444
    Featured Threads:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    598
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    No where.
    MBTI:
    none
    I’m not sure what Jung would think of this. My own guess would be the trauma that we all have grown with which would be different for each generation that we protect, and the wish to make a decision to fight out of defensiveness that makes us the offender. The amount of information I get a feeling is enough to confuse and depress any infj and any other type, Jung included.
     
    #8 ExhumedMorrison, Feb 12, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2021
  9. OP
    ExhumedMorrison

    ExhumedMorrison Community Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2021
    Threads:
    7
    Messages:
    444
    Featured Threads:
    2
    Likes Received:
    1,153
    Trophy Points:
    598
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    No where.
    MBTI:
    none
    I could be mistyped myself, though I understand we all have our preference in tribes and I have my own recovery to get through as well. I can’t fully speak for myself as much as giving arbitrary information may give a glimpse into my identity. I’ve definitely come into this a little more defensive than necessary, so I hope I haven’t stirred or rattled anyone.
     
  10. John K

    Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Threads:
    5
    Messages:
    7,487
    Featured Threads:
    4
    Likes Received:
    70,511
    Trophy Points:
    3,112
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheshire, England
    MBTI:
    INFJ
    Enneagram:
    5W4 549
    It can be quite a journey of self discovery, trying to find which MBTI type is the closest match for you. It only took me 20 years lol - mind you I only came back to look at it occasionally in all that time.

    You haven't stirred or rattled me .... except stirring my interest :) I've not read The Undiscovered Self for a long while so you've prompted me to get it off the shelf and give it another read. Have you read it through yourself yet, or are you somewhere in the middle? What do you make of it in relation to the perplexity you described? It probably won't help you directly in establishing your MBTI type, by the way, because it's really more focused on Jung's concept of individuation and freedom from the tyranny of collective thinking from what I remember.

    Are you feeling that you are rattling people here? You don't come across like that to me in the least bit so don't worry about it. On the contrary, I hope I haven't charged in here with too much enthusiasm and shifted it away from what you intended.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    flower and Hba5h65 like this.
Loading...

Share This Page