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[SPOILERS] Is Rick Grimes a Good Leader?

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  1. Happy Phantom

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    Several months ago I was asked why I think Rick is the best choice out of everyone to lead the group, so I started writing an essay on the subject. The essay was becoming long and tiresome, as I was actually watching while taking notes, so I decided quoting scripts would be an easier way to break it all down.

    If you're a diehard Walking Dead fan I would like to hear your thoughts on this subject. I'll start off with Rick from the season one premiere.

    Here we can already see that Rick is good at assessing his current situation and makes the choice to shoot the little girl in the head. He takes control, while still not sure wtf is going on. I'm seeing some great leader potential already! :tongueout:

    Tbc...
     
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    I read this as Rick James and I feel kind of embarrassed now. I'll see my way out now.
     
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    @Lurk, I hope you've come prepared. :sunglasses:
     
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    You're welcome to stay, but please keep your dirty azz boots off of my couch.

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    I would post, but it would create another awkward ethical "discussion."
     
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    I do not accept your reply. Now let's get started, shall we? ;P
     
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    Mainly he is a good leader because he maintains his compassion while making difficult decisions. He has compassion and empathy for even the worst people while not letting it influence his decisions regarding the greater good. You can see Carl learning this and taking it to a whole new superspeed kind of level, eventually probably making him even better than his father.
     
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    Oh hell, not today. Later!
     
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    I think this is his achilles heel.
     
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    I agree with @Wyote . Rick's empathy and his ethics make him the best choice, despite other characters questioning him for these qualities. He has empathy, but he can also be brutal... Which at times is necessary.. the scene that stands out is Rick biting the throat out of that guy who threatened Carl's life.

    I haven't really watched in maybe a season or two. I stopped at the season where he led a preemptive strike against that one camp and killed people in their sleep. I also think Glenn would have made a great leader because of his intelligence and empathy.

    Herschel was probably the most empathetic and compassionate. He is better in a support role, or advising role to Rick because he wasn't capable of the sort of brutality Rick was capable of to keep the group safe... (Though he actually had a pretty sweet set up before Rick came along sans the zombie party barn..)

    Just some random thoughts. Maybe I'll start watching again... Just got to be the same shit over and over and got tired of watching them run into one crazy group of killers after the other.
     
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    It's complicated.

    I will have to do this later. I don't want to fuck up.

    To start with, a good leader doesn't have to save the day all the damn time because his people aren't constantly in danger. A good leader would make for a boring show.

    If I am playing around with a giggling baby and decide it would be funny to toss him in a pool, am I a hero if I save him from drowning?
     
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    This is a question for Father G.

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    Also, I am determined to get that photo op for you.
     
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    Thank you. :)

    Poor Father G is at the bottom of the pecking order, even below a sidekick. Why doesn't someone just put him out of his misery. Seriously.
     
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    I disagree. He is simply in a different class of character. Each member offers a particular needed skill set. He's not a warrior/bersker/paladin. He's a priest.
     
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    I don't really watch The Walking Dead, but I would make the argument that there are probably many other characters that would do what Rick did in the first example.

    Of course, there will be others. I'll be paying attention.
     
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    And a coward.
     
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    Cowardice can be beneficial
     
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    I'm wouldn't even leave baby H with him. lol
    I did promise @Lurk I would get a selfie with Seth Gilliam falling into my arms crying like a baby and I will do my best this October. I think I stand a better chance at his booth rather than professional photo op.
     
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    He's my soulmate.

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