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  1. Scientia

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    Have you ever pursued an action out of pure revenge? Describe the situation prior to your reaction. What did you do?
     
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    No. Not yet.
     
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    Justice. I've done something similar.
     
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    Contemplated? Yes.
    Acted? Not that I remember.

    Oh and I would never be physical. I'd much rather to get to someone with words. I find that guilt is one of the best ones.
    If I feel like revenge, I plan about making the other person feel horribly guilty about what they did. Personally if someone gets angry with me, it bothers me slightly. If someone makes me feel guilty, I feel horrible. Using guilt is like taking some sort of moral highground (because you do not actively attack or offense the other), but it still inflicts a lot of regret/pain in the other. It's slightly devious if you ask me. One of my teachers did this onece when I didn't do my homework. He never got angry or punished me with some extra work or something. He just acted sad and disappointed. I felt horrible.

    Definitely revenge if you ask me.

    Justice is a much debated concept. Just check the huge wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice#Theories_of_retributive_justice
    Your action would be justice if you adhere the retributive perspective:
    Wrongdoing must be balanced or made good in some way, and so the criminal deserves to be punished.

    I prefer restorative justice:
    Restorative justice is an approach to justice that focuses on the needs of victims and offenders, instead of satisfying abstract legal principles or punishing the offender
    And the need of society I'd like to add. The offender mustn't commit another crime. Locking him up in prison is way to expensive. Better give criminals some therapy to lower recidivism and improve them as persons.
     
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    I remember holding an elderly woman, who fainted, in my arms. There was a young couple (in their mid twenties)as well as the caregiver that was with us. Thankfully the male was able to carry the elderly woman to the caregivers car. As I was following behind him to make sure that she was okay his girlfriend was all over me pretending to care as she was giving encouragement with a big smile on her face since I was near her boyfriend. This girl did not give a damn for the woman who fainted and almost bump her head on the floor. I was beyond angry of her fake bubbly personality so I completely ignore her. We went to urgent care to get her checked out and havent seen the couple. It was later on I found out that she convince him to go to a gathering instead of visiting the urgent care. I was deeply hurt. The following week of course the girlfriend pulled me aside and told me how sad she was that day for the old woman. Still upset I looked at her and asked exactly where she went right after dropping her to the car. She told me that it wasnt important. I gave her another good stare for about minute while shaking my head. Knowing that I saw right through her she stayed quiet the whole time I was there.

    Could that be revenge?
     
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    Tin Man "a respectable amount of screaming"

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    Yes.

    The statute of limitations has definitely run out, but better safe than sorry.
     
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    I don't think it is. You just let her know you didn't believe her but didn't do anything to her.
     
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    Yes, inducing guilt on purpose is a form of revenge.

    Notice how I first answered your question on revenge. My way of acting on revenge would probably be using guilt.
    After that I responded to your question about whether you own action counts as revenge or justice. In my answer I discuss a few perspectives on justice, not on revenge.
     
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    Haha! Thank you. You never fail to amuse me.
     
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    Can't do revenge. You lower yourself to the same level as the person who has harmed you if you pursue revenge.
     
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    I documented it, classified it, considered its requirements and laid out every possibility for my next encounter of the scenario.

    Round 2: I go full retard for the lulz!

    It is a full nuclear meltdown, everyone getting buried alive, let nobody survive. Bystander my ass, you all accomplices! I'm coming for you, you, and you and your little dog toto too!
     
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    cvp12gh5 What a lovely way to burn...

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    This. Long-term humiliation is my preferred method.
     
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    Wow!
     
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    not really my cup of tea.
     
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    I found this in another thread:

    Much truth there.

    Nothing to be ashamed or proud of. Just the way it goes, I suppose.
     
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    Nope, then I would be at the same level as the person who did something bad which "would" make me want to revenge.
     
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    INFJs can be masters of revenge; more the shadowy side of being an INFJ and fully integrated infjs knows this. The keen observations into other's underlying motives and their desires are easily used by an infj to destroy someone from within. of course it will all depend on how bad an infj was wronged and which way; in most instances infjs will find it within their hearts to forgive and heal. But on a darker side; infjs are very adept at manipulation and revenge if one chooses to commit to this type of path. To say that all infjs are geared towards love and helping others is not always true. The psychological power an infj holds over others cannot be denied.
     
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    I've never really gotten into the whole revenge concept. However, when I was younger and on a camping trip with my family, my sister was being intentionally annoying so I replaced Oreo filling with toothpaste, and gave it to her. She had trouble eating Oreos for awhile after that...
    A few years later I found Mint Creme Oreo cookies and gave them to her for her birthday. The irony is that she loves them. Your welcome ;)
     
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    Sadly, this.

    For the topic, I have. I'm trying to holding myself from doing another one of those.
    The price of my conscience is very high, too high for me.

    I covered most of my bases, I'm going to use it as a defense tho; hopefully not an offense.

    Why, I stop to ask. Why the desire for justice--Why and when did it start to taint and turned into vengeance.

    Why.
     
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