Is the end game here that we in the USA devour ourselves over our compromised President?
Funny. After 8 years of the most opaque Presidency in history everyone should be letting out a sigh of relief on the 20th.
Oh and seriously? No thinking person listens to what buzzfeed has to say. Absolute BS to comes out of them.
But liberals eat that up don't they.
Sad.
But liberals eat that up don't they.
Sad.
Snooze. Another self-serving liberal thread. You won't find anything except opinion here.
Have fun.
Have fun.
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It wouldn't surprise me if somebody out there (including the Russians) have got dirt on Trump, Trumps a dubious guy, and I think a pervert/paedophile.
But I cannot immediately buy into the sensationalist headlines/claims of the Neo Liberal establishment (who is openly the rival of the conservative establishment)
The Neo Liberal establishment themselves are compromised (Benghazi, Clinton Foundation, Pizzagate, etc etc)
The alliance between the fascist Pentagon and the Russian Émigré is old school.. if this new alliance is a surprise to you, you need to go back and study your history.
What I am curious to know, is the Pentagons current allegiance to Israel and the Crown.. so many power plays, how to observe them all?
But I cannot immediately buy into the sensationalist headlines/claims of the Neo Liberal establishment (who is openly the rival of the conservative establishment)
The Neo Liberal establishment themselves are compromised (Benghazi, Clinton Foundation, Pizzagate, etc etc)
The alliance between the fascist Pentagon and the Russian Émigré is old school.. if this new alliance is a surprise to you, you need to go back and study your history.
What I am curious to know, is the Pentagons current allegiance to Israel and the Crown.. so many power plays, how to observe them all?
Clinton.
Relations between Trump and the media came to a head yesterday, over a CNN report that the Russian government has “compromising” information on Trump — information that is detailed in a “classified” 35-page dossier, a synopsis of which was handed to Trump when he met last week with four top intelligence officials (Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers).
The dossier allegedly had been compiled by a former British intelligence (MI6) official for Trump’s GOP primary campaign opponents, and later for Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Another media outlet, Buzzfeed, published the dossier, including the salacious allegation only a pimply-faced teenager living in his mom’s basement would conjure — that Trump, during a visit to Moscow, had hired hookers to urinate on a bed Obama had slept in.
The CNN report completely fell apart less than 24 hours after it was published:
Despite Clapper’s “make nice” phone call to Trump, it’s no secret that the intelligence agencies of the Obama administration, with their allegations of Russia hacking and intervening in the election to favor Trump, are hell-bent on subverting the November 8 election.
- Trump denounced it as “fake news” and a “political witch hunt”. In his press conference yesterday morning, Trump called CNN “fake news,” and Buzzfeed a “failing pile of garbage”.
- The Kremlin denies having a “compromising” dossier on Trump and calls the intelligence report a “complete fabrication”.
- A poster on 4chan claims to have concocted the Trump “golden showers” story, which he sent to Rick Wilson — the GOP consultant who called for assassinating Trump — who sent it to the CIA, which then put it in their official classified intelligence report on the election. (ZeroHedge)
- Carl Bernstein, who co-wrote the CNN report, said the MI6 spook, Chris Steele, had given the dossier of memos to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who is overtly anti-Trump. McCain, in turn, handed it to the FBI. (New York Post)
- In a phone conversation with Trump yesterday (Jan. 11) evening, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper called the 35-page dossier “a private security company document” that “is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product”. Clappersaid the intelligence community (IC) “has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions.” He also said he does not believe the leaks came from within the IC. (DNI Clapper Statement on Conversation with President-elect Trump)
Trump, for his part, has said that he will reform the intelligence agencies, beginning with the CIA.
On January 3, 2017, responding to MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow‘s description of Trump as “taking these shots, antagonisms, taunting the intelligence community,” Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said something quite ominous:
“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you. So, even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he’s being really dumb to do this.”
Is that a threat?
Former Senator Ron Paul (R) thinks so.
In the “Liberty Report” on January 5, 2017, Paul had an interesting exchange with Daniel McAdams, Executive Directive of the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.
9:28 mark: McAdams says Chuck Schumer is “plugged in pretty well to the deep state,” then quotes what Schumer said on MSNBC, that Trump is “really dumb” to take on the intelligence community because the latter “have six ways from Sunday of getting back at you.”
McAdams observes, “That is very chilling,” and asks Paul if what Schumer said is “a threat” at Donald Trump.
Paul: “This is not a lie. I think he [Schumer] is speaking the truth there — better watch out. I think Trump knows about it. That’s why he has private security.”
Paul also had plenty of other interesting things to say about the CIA:
“They’ve gotten us into so much trouble. The evidence is so overwhelming that they’ve been involved in many assassinations, not only…the Kennedy assassination, maybe both Kennedys’ for all we know.”
Paul said the CIA is so secretive that “even as a member of Congress,” he couldn’t find out “what was really going on and sometimes I don’t even know what was going on…. I don’t think they give us information. They hide information from us…and they mislead us.” So Paul applauds Trump’s plan to look into and shrink the intelligence agencies. But he warns that Trump’s reform will be met with “great resistance”.
McAdams said something that I’ve read on other blogs and sites, that there are factions within the intelligence agencies. McAdams said that parts of the CIA “have been in open warfare against Trump through the campaign. So many ‘anonymous’ leaks from intelligence officials.” Implying that Trump knows what he’s up against, McAdams noted that Trump has “surrounded himself very closely with military types, military officers,” and that there’s an “ongoing tension between Pentagon intelligence analysis and what the CIA does,” as in Syria “where the CIA troops are fighting the Pentagon troops on the ground”.
Paul said there are 17 intelligence agencies altogether and that “the deep state is involved”. Paul also said that he does not believe the Obama administration’s claims that Russia hacked and intervened in the 2016 election — “I don’t think they have the evidence”. He points out that it is the U.S. government and the CIA that repeatedly intervene in other countries’ elections — as many as 81 elections since WWII and 50 assassinations.
McAdams points out the hypocrisy of John McCain accusing Russia of intervening in our election when McCain “went to Ukraine and actually participated in the overthrow of an elected government” and “did the same thing and went into Syria and met with a bunch of terrorists” because McCain wants to overthrow the Assad government.”
8:45 mark: Paul said Trump “will have problems achieving” reform of the intelligence agencies “because there’s so many obstacles and he won’t know who really represents the CIA unless he is well attuned to the deep state because the real orders and assassinations” are given to the CIA by the deep state.
In its post, “The Final Takedown of Trump Begins in Earnest,” State of the Nation concludes:
“There can be only one reason for the fake dossier that was fabricated by rogue elements within the U.S. intelligence community. To use it as a pretext to delegitimize the presidency of Donald Trump by traitors within the Obama Administration and DNC, as well as rogue intelligence agencies.
That this unvetted fraud was then quickly disseminated throughout the global MSM provides further evidence of a highly organized coup against the president-elect. […]
Make no mistake about it: from now until Inauguration Day will be the most dangerous times for Donald Trump and his transition team. The very future of the United States of America now hangs in the balance as never before.”
H/t FOTM‘s josephbc69
~Eowyn
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/01/12/trumps-war-with-the-cia/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...perverted-sexual-acts-mi6-agent-a7524191.htmlChristopher Steele: super-spy or dodgy dossier writer? The secret world of the man behind the leaked Trump document
Some say the ex-MI6 man is solid, thorough, with extensive contacts, but may have been producing just ‘raw intelligence’. Others claim he is ‘showy’. Trump says he has produced ‘fake news’
The Independent US
The building housing the offices of Orbis Business Intelligence, co-founded by Christopher Steele, the ex-MI6 man behind the Trump dossier Reuters
According to his publicly-available LinkedIn profile, Christopher Steele never existed before he co-founded Orbis Business Intelligence, a “corporate intelligence consultancy” providing “strategic insight, intelligence and investigative services”.
There is no mention of the 52-year-old’s life before 2009, when he and Orbis took up offices inBelgravia, one of the wealthiest districts in London, and indeed the world.
The man behind the explosive dossier on US President-electDonald Trump is proving equally elusive in the flesh, as well as online. “Terrified for his safety”, he is reported to have driven from his home in the south of England having asked a neighbour to look after his cat because he would be “gone for a few days”.
Now, though, some sources have started to fill in the gaps in the secretive Mr Steele’s CV.
Trump claims intelligence chief 'denounced' Russia dossier
Said to be a father of three, it now appears he has an impressive intelligence gathering pedigree: a former MI6 officer posted in 1990 to the UK’s Moscow embassy under the guise of “second secretary (Chancery)”; working in the Paris embassy in 1998 as – supposedly at least – “First Secretary Financial”; at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London in 2003.
According to some reports, he may have worked with the murdered Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, poisoned with polonium in in London in 2006 – by Russian state agents, according to a British public inquiry.
Some acquaintances describe Mr Steele as very sound and thorough, with an extensive range of useful contacts.
John Sipher who retired in 2014 after 28 years working for the CIA as a Russia specialist in Russia told the Wall Street Journal – the first news organisation to name Mr Steele – that he had a good reputation in the intelligence world.
The endorsements on that LinkedIn page would certainly suggest so.
His “intelligence analysis” expertise has been approved byClovis Meath Baker, director of intelligence production at GCHQ from 2010 to 2013, with prior experience of working in Afghanistan during the Russian occupation and Czechoslovakia during the Velvet Revolution that ended communist rule there.
Other endorsements appear to come from Jonathan Winer, US special envoy for Libya, as well as from a retired British Foreign Office official.
Reuters has also reported that Mr Steele impressed with the work he did after leaving the British secret service. He is said to have provided the FBI with information on the activities of Fifa, world football’s governing body.
Emails seen by Reuters indicate that, in the summer of 2010, members of a New York-based FBI squad assigned to investigate “Eurasian Organised Crime” met Mr Steele in London to discuss allegations of possible corruption in FIFA.
The FBI squad whose members met Mr Steele subsequently opened a major investigation that led to dozens of US indictments, including those of prominent international football officials. Fifa president Sepp Blatter subsequently resigned.
The Independent has also established that Mr Steele had a more recent success with a report he supplied five months ago claiming that figures in Mr Trump’s campaign team had agreed to a Russian request to try and dilute the focus on its intervention in Ukraine. Four days later Mr Trump stated that he would recognise Moscow’s annexation of Crimea.
Not everyone, however, seems quite so convinced by Mr Steele, at least when it comes to his dossier – and not just Trump himself, who has angrily dismissed it all as “fake news”.
One source reportedly told The Times that Mr Steele was “slightly more showy and less grounded in reality than you might expect a former SIS [Secret Intelligence Service] person to be”.
“Not everyone was hugely impressed by him,” the source added, “But he has made a successful career for himself.”
There have also been comments in the intelligence community on basic errors in the dossier, like the misspelling of Alfa, one of Russia’s biggest and most prominent banking institutions as “Alpha”.
Donald Trump's most controversial quotes
And one business intelligence consultant with 20 years’ experience of Russia told The Independent that the dossier, with its extremely highly placed sources and lurid details, was simply “too good to be true”.
The source said: “Russians are very cautious about what they talk about, even amongst each other. Therefore, with the story about [sexual acts] in the Moscow Ritz Carlton, the idea you have managed to triple source it via an employee at the hotel, a serving FSB [Russian security service] officer, and the security officer at the hotel, who inevitably will be at least a former FSB or GIU [Russian intelligency agency] officer … It just doesn’t make sense.
“If such a thing had taken place, it would be a Russian state secret.”
“It’s just too magical,” the source added. “The specificity of the conversations about what is going on inside the Kremlin: nobody has this kind of detail.
“It would have meant that whoever was writing the report was far better than any British or CIA agent since the Russian revolution.”
The source also questioned the extent to which Mr Steele – a former MI6 officer who once worked in Moscow – would have been able to visit Russia in person.
“I would be surprised if he could go to Russia [himself],” the source said. “The Russians don’t believe you ever leave the intelligence services. I would imagine the Russian state would continue to be interested in someone who had served, particularly undercover in the embassy, and who knew where the British resources were in Russia.
“I’m told he would have had to ask permission [from the British Government] before going to a country like Russia.”
Instead, the source said, Mr Steele may have had to work through Russian subcontractors – who might have a financial incentive to please their paymasters with impressive-looking information, or who may have gossiped with other Russians keen to exaggerate the extent of their knowledge.
“I would imagine he worked through Russian subcontractors,” the source said. “We all [sometimes] work through subcontractors. Then we have to test the information they supply to us. And on a big case you should test the information more than you do on a small case.”
The source added: “I know there is a danger if you are doing a very big case and you are a small company, and you get something that seems really great, that you develop patterns of group think, and you start to believe your stuff – as happened for example with theNiger yellowcake story [that Saddam Hussein had tried to buy yellowcake uranium for nuclear weapons].”
The source, however, explained that it might be possible to reconcile Mr Steele’s apparent reputation for solid thoroughness with all the scepticism about the contents of the dossier.
It was, the source said, entirely plausible that as an ex-MI6 man Mr Steele may have been accustomed to supplying “raw intelligence” that was subsequently “stress-tested” by others.
“I am told this is what MI6 reports look like,” the source told The Independent. “In an organisation like MI6, people gather intelligence, another layer of people analyse it, another layer determines how good it is. Finally it is passed to the Foreign Office, who will do another layer of analysis to say whether it is real or not.”
Mr Steele is said to have been hired by an American political research company, and the ultimate intended recipients of his work are understood to have been political opponents of Mr Trump. “Sometimes,” the source added, “The client says ‘get me all the scuttlebutt.’”
Some news reports do seem to back up the suggestion that Mr Steele was supplying raw intelligence that was then subjected to further analysis.
CNN has reported that a two-page synopsis of Mr Steele’s dossier was only presented to Barack Obama and Mr Trump after US intelligence agencies checked the ex-MI6 man’s credentials and found him and his sources “credible enough to include some of the information”.
It is, however, not yet clear exactly what information made it into the two-page synopsis. Nor has anyone publicly said that any of the claims in the dossier have been verified.
Mark Galeotti, Senior research fellow at the Institute of International Relations Prague, has also raised one other problem with the suggestion that the Russians may have been gathering compromising information about Mr Trump that could have allowed them to blackmail him.
“The uncomfortable irony,” said Mr Galeoti, “Is that there is so much that is grotesque in his [Trump’s] backstory, behaviour and even personal narrative, which did not prevent his election, that he might even be immune to this kind of blackmail.”
The Independent was not immediately able to contact a representative of Orbis Business Intelligence.
MI6 colleagues brand Christopher Steele an "Idiot" and refer to his Trump Dossier as "dodgy" and "dirty"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lling-lack-judgement-Trump-dirty-dossier.html
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I am actually worried that the nation is going to go thru another watergate type meltdown.
It wouldn’t surprise me either...I mean they have already done away with the campaign finance reforms that were the core of the Watergate scandal in the first place...so, combine that with his absolutely dismal approval ratings (not to mention he lost the election in terms of actual votes by the people by several million).
Then piss off another 22 million or so when you jerk away their health insurance.
Threaten to deport another 11 million or so.
Hire all the dildos in Wall St. who profited off of the misfortune of our nation as they crashed our economy.
Oh...and I almost forgot...his tax “cuts” will benefit him and his rich friends...and actually increases taxes on the poorest Americans.
He’s setting himself up to crash and burn....hard...conflict of interest should be the main focus of him and his cronies.
Then we’ll have President Pence...not sure which one is worse...maybe they will go down in flames together.
Some predict much higher numbers...47% is pretty shitty.
Trump's tax plan: massive cuts for the 1% will usher 'era of dynastic wealth'
More than eight million low-income and single-parent families will face sharp tax increases
under Donald Trump exacerbating income inequality, experts warn
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/trump-tax-plan-cuts-wealthy-low-income-inequality
The richest 1% will collect...
...47% of all tax cuts.
“Listening to Trump’s rhetoric, most Americans probably don’t realise at all the impact of Trump’s tax plan,” Matt Gardner, a senior fellow at the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) said. “Any way you slice it, the very best-off Americans will be the biggest beneficiaries.More than eight million low-income and single-parent families will face sharp tax increases
under Donald Trump exacerbating income inequality, experts warn
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/trump-tax-plan-cuts-wealthy-low-income-inequality
The richest 1% will collect...
...47% of all tax cuts.
“If it looks bad now for middle-income families, those who turned out to vote for him, it’s only likely to get worse [with Trump as president].
It is very likely that they will end up poorer still. The most likely victims are middle- and low-income families.”
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Should be the least of your worries. Liberals keep spewing crap trying to pass it off as fact ... keep putting up pictures of police that look like pigs, keep turn their back on the people protecting them...
All out war is around the corner. I guess some people think they want that but I can tell you when its over, there won't be ANY socialist havens left in America.
The very idea any of you think you have a right to knock Trump for anything he's said or done after 8 years of the biggest POS President America has ever known. Funny, sad, scary.
All out war is around the corner. I guess some people think they want that but I can tell you when its over, there won't be ANY socialist havens left in America.
The very idea any of you think you have a right to knock Trump for anything he's said or done after 8 years of the biggest POS President America has ever known. Funny, sad, scary.
Why even post your nonsense?
No one ever thumbs you or listens to your dribble.
What picture of police as pigs?
Now we are going to have a civil war huh?
And you are going to make sure all the socialists die...personally...awesome.
Go ahead then...start.
Take out your gun and start taking out “liberals” and “socialists".
Funny, sad, scary, indeed...you should seek a professional and antipsychotics.
