Obama is just a puppet
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The political system in the US is completely dominated by money
The political campaigns of politicians are paid for by financial contributors. Those contributors are invariably the big corporations as they have the most money and therefore the most political clout
In europe there are certain bloodline families that make up the royal families of europe and the landed aristocracy of europe. The aristocratic families with the strongest links to the vatican church are called the 'black nobility'.
The church has been one of the biggest land owners in europe along with the aristocrats and royals. The church has also played the part of 'king maker' over the centuries.
Beneath these groups of royals, nobles and priests are the people. This social stratification is called 'the three estates'
The royals and aristocrats traditionally could not commit usury so they would hire jews to do it for them as they had no relgious prohibition on usury. Each european town/city would have a jewish quarter called a 'ghetto' where the jewish merchants would live
Some jewish families such as the rothschilds became bankers to the royal families. They created a banking network that spanned europe and they lent money to both sides in many wars making vast sums form war loans
All these groups form a network. The visible manifestation of their power is the corporations that they own. The concept of a corporation was created to sheild the owners from legal and economic liability in the event of failure. These corporations are often interlocking and overlapping with for example the same people sitting on different boards. The corporations are also constantly consolidating into larger and larger entities
The underlying manifestation of this network is the secret society network which binds the groups together into a cohesive social and political force. So for example although the netwoek might place its people...its 'gatekeepers' in positions of influence in various insitutions for example the legal courts, the police, government, the intelligence agencies, the military, the media and so on these people can then come together in various secret societies and clubs and rub shoulders with each other
They have a shared goal which is the preservation of their privileged situation at the top of society feeding off the general populace (who do the work).
Another visible but often secretive manifestation of the network are the think tanks for example: the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations (CFR), the club of rome, chatham house etc
The knights templar also got into banking and continue in banking to this day in the city of london banking district which is a legally autonomous enclave within the UK
Other legally autonomous enclaves are the vatican city in Rome (another state within a state) and the District Of Columbia in Washington (which houses the US intelligence agencies, the white house and the supreme council of the scottish rite freemasonry)
These three districts form the: administrative, banking and religious centres of the network
The vatican has two popes. there is the visible pope called the 'white pope' and there is the head of the secretive jesuit order who are modelled on the knights templar; he is called 'the black pope'
The aristocratic branch of the protestant orange lodges is interestingly enough called the royal black perceptory
So whenever you dig into events the same groups always crop up: the freemasons, the vatican and the jewish central bankers
The central banking families own the 4 biggest banks in the US which in turn own the federal reserve central bank. They also own the bank of england central bank as well as other central banks in other countries. They are headquartered in the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in switzerland.
When the templars were persecuted in france they fled to switzerland and scotland among other places. Switzerland and scotland (and city of london) are famous for their banking even today. The mercenary guards of the vatican are recruited from switzerland
This corporate network of intermarried bloodlines who are all involved i occult secret societies control the economies of various countries and they control the political and legal scene of various countries.
The big 4 banks also own the biggest 4 oil companies and many wars in the middle east are fought over oil. The british royal family also have shares in big oil for example in Royal Dutch Shell
Just as the Bush presidents were called oilmen for their close ties to the oil industry Obama is often called wallstreets man because of his close ties to wallstreet. Not only does wallstreet fund him politically but obama has surrounded himself with wallstreet advisors:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/obama-white-house-full-of-wall-street-executives/
http://politicaloutcast.com/2014/01/washington-times-barack-obama-wall-street-president/
The political campaigns of politicians are paid for by financial contributors. Those contributors are invariably the big corporations as they have the most money and therefore the most political clout
In europe there are certain bloodline families that make up the royal families of europe and the landed aristocracy of europe. The aristocratic families with the strongest links to the vatican church are called the 'black nobility'.
The church has been one of the biggest land owners in europe along with the aristocrats and royals. The church has also played the part of 'king maker' over the centuries.
Beneath these groups of royals, nobles and priests are the people. This social stratification is called 'the three estates'
The royals and aristocrats traditionally could not commit usury so they would hire jews to do it for them as they had no relgious prohibition on usury. Each european town/city would have a jewish quarter called a 'ghetto' where the jewish merchants would live
Some jewish families such as the rothschilds became bankers to the royal families. They created a banking network that spanned europe and they lent money to both sides in many wars making vast sums form war loans
All these groups form a network. The visible manifestation of their power is the corporations that they own. The concept of a corporation was created to sheild the owners from legal and economic liability in the event of failure. These corporations are often interlocking and overlapping with for example the same people sitting on different boards. The corporations are also constantly consolidating into larger and larger entities
The underlying manifestation of this network is the secret society network which binds the groups together into a cohesive social and political force. So for example although the netwoek might place its people...its 'gatekeepers' in positions of influence in various insitutions for example the legal courts, the police, government, the intelligence agencies, the military, the media and so on these people can then come together in various secret societies and clubs and rub shoulders with each other
They have a shared goal which is the preservation of their privileged situation at the top of society feeding off the general populace (who do the work).
Another visible but often secretive manifestation of the network are the think tanks for example: the trilateral commission, the council on foreign relations (CFR), the club of rome, chatham house etc
The knights templar also got into banking and continue in banking to this day in the city of london banking district which is a legally autonomous enclave within the UK
Other legally autonomous enclaves are the vatican city in Rome (another state within a state) and the District Of Columbia in Washington (which houses the US intelligence agencies, the white house and the supreme council of the scottish rite freemasonry)
These three districts form the: administrative, banking and religious centres of the network
The vatican has two popes. there is the visible pope called the 'white pope' and there is the head of the secretive jesuit order who are modelled on the knights templar; he is called 'the black pope'
The aristocratic branch of the protestant orange lodges is interestingly enough called the royal black perceptory
So whenever you dig into events the same groups always crop up: the freemasons, the vatican and the jewish central bankers
The central banking families own the 4 biggest banks in the US which in turn own the federal reserve central bank. They also own the bank of england central bank as well as other central banks in other countries. They are headquartered in the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in switzerland.
When the templars were persecuted in france they fled to switzerland and scotland among other places. Switzerland and scotland (and city of london) are famous for their banking even today. The mercenary guards of the vatican are recruited from switzerland
This corporate network of intermarried bloodlines who are all involved i occult secret societies control the economies of various countries and they control the political and legal scene of various countries.
The big 4 banks also own the biggest 4 oil companies and many wars in the middle east are fought over oil. The british royal family also have shares in big oil for example in Royal Dutch Shell
Just as the Bush presidents were called oilmen for their close ties to the oil industry Obama is often called wallstreets man because of his close ties to wallstreet. Not only does wallstreet fund him politically but obama has surrounded himself with wallstreet advisors:
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/obama-white-house-full-of-wall-street-executives/
http://politicaloutcast.com/2014/01/washington-times-barack-obama-wall-street-president/
None of this explains the competition between the GOP and the Dems. Nor does it explain the policy differences between the two. From your perspective everything is already done but from mine there are very real choices to be made.
while the political parties require money to get elected, there is nothing that compels the wealthy to provide it except the need to influence the choices being made.
I personally believe its a sham to make there American people think there are two different ways of thinking when there is really only one. I had high hopes of the Tea Party (being outsiders) of coming in and shaking things up. Instead they have turned out to be a bunch of useless a@#$#%! just like the rest of the entrenched parasites.
There are several million people that now have access to health care that did not before the Dems passed Health care reform, something the GOP was not going to do.
is that not a difference ?
Who has access to what remains to be seen. Before Obama was president, the GOP came out with a health care bill that before they even looked at it, the DEMs rejected and said they would not even look at it.
I believe the health care bill passed by the Democrats is BS. I still remember Pelosi being asked what was in it and her response, “YOU have to read it to find out what’s in it.” because even she didn’t know. The GOP wanted health care reform as well they just did not want to attack it the same way the Democrats did.
I support republicans only because the basic foundation of their platform concerning the financial direction this country should be taking. I don’t support the democrats because I don’t believe a one of them resides in reality. BOTH groups are only concerned with getting votes and pass legislation not because it’s the right thing to do but because they hope its what will get them elected the next time.
In the end, they ALL want power and money. The ruse that they are against each other in this is what I am talking about.
Do you believe democrats passed Obamacare because they believed it was the "right thing" to do?
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/november/03/republican-health-bill.aspx
Googled it, first reference I found. I have not read it but suspect it gets the point across
that was in nov of 09 after the ACA was already about to be passed by the Dem controlled house while the dems had the senate and the Presidency. The GOP was out of power.
When the GOP was in power we invaded Iraq....something that the Dems would not have done. another huge difference
Can you show some evidence (not merely circumstantial) to support this?
Also I thought that Swiss banks are renowned because they are in the midst of a highly stable economy in a country that has a tendency for international neutrality. And the Swiss Guard are Swiss because apparently Swiss mercenaries were really really good at killing people in the 1500s, and are still Swiss because tradition.
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I cant find any comment on how democrats said, "Dont touch healthcare, its ours." So I guess thats reason enough to strike out what I said even though I know it happened.
History is written by the victors.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/23/pf/taxes/health_proposal_effect/?postversion=2007012322
History is written by the victors.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/23/pf/taxes/health_proposal_effect/?postversion=2007012322
I can only provide the information but you have to look through it
So if you want a big data dump then buy Dean Hendersons book 'big oil and their bankers in the persian gulf' and you can find out all the business links (worth every penny)
I lent my copy to someone otherwise i'd quote some stuff from it. But his website is good:
http://deanhenderson.wordpress.com/
The vatican do not hire swiss guards because they were good at killing people 500 years ago; nowadays there are countries that have very well trained military personnel who often become mercenaries
Why would you hire guards from a country with no experience of fighting unless you had some other reason for example because they were exceptionally loyal?
The swiss remained neutral to protect their own financial interests and to protect the gold and other wealth they held for all their rich clients on all sides of the conflict
Switzerland is also home to the HQ of the international bankers: the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) which is the central bank of central banks
@Stu
I agree with what Eventhorizon has said here
The two party system is carefully stage managed theatre designed to make the public think they have a stake in the political system
Big money controls both parties (Hegelian dialectics)
yes there will be some differences in policy but not surrounding the issues that concern the corporations (incl banks)
Here is economist and university prof Michael Hudson (very smart guy!) explaining how Obama will not change anything relating to the bankers...he will only impose 'austerity' on the public; Obama also mentions cuts to military spending but that is untrue..the US military is spending as much as ever:
[video=youtube;ySwPMm0ALjA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySwPMm0ALjA[/video]
Here's another clip where Hudson speaks about how Obama will only make policy change around social issues not the banks @ around 5.50; i first posted this clip several years ago on this forum and even now i still think it is one of the best interviews i have heard relating to the banking 'crisis'. Hudson says it just as it is, explaining how the government showed who its real constituency is by bailing out the banks not the real economy...brilliant interview!
[video=youtube;A10bor8FBAk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10bor8FBAk[/video]
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Because the powerful people/families behind the military industrial complex and who fund the politicians political careers also own the mainstream corporate media who would then demonise the politician who would find themself without financial backing and would probably end up in a fatal 'accident'
This country runs on fear. Political campaigns use it all the time. People are susceptible to it because it is part of our nature. We fear having our society torn asunder by impoverished foreigners. Our innate fear is not manufactured but it is manipulated. Any politician who is not willing to embrace the manipulation of fear will not wield power here. To say that a politician is a puppet because they deal with the realities of political power is painting with too broad a brush.