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So is or is not the grass greener on the other side of the fence!? :m075:
 
So is or is not the grass greener on the other side of the fence!? :m075:

Guess it depends on who you ask. Many self actualized people are not happy. While many people who suffer in mediocrity seem quite content. There's the rub.
 
Being the hardcore fan of Bob Dylan that I am, I have to quote him on this subject:

Some speak of the future
My love she speaks softly
She knows there’s no success like failure
And that failure’s no success at all


Success is subjective, there's no "end result". I don't strive to be "successful", because I'm not all that interested in pleasing other people, and their view of what success is and what it is not. To me it's only about what I want to do, and mediocrity to me would therefore be not doing something I liked to do, for a living.
 
I think it is not pushing yourself when you know you've got more left inside you.

It's settling for reasons of personal strength and determination. Someone might, say, accept a job that isn't their dream job because they've got a child on the way. I would consider that sensible and realistic, not settling for mediocrity.

Mediocrity is when you have more to give and have no real reason not to give it and not to rock the boat some more except whatever is stopping you. It is entirely subjective.
 
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Mediocrity means not trying and not caring. ...

I think this is insightful because there is a trend that "not giving a fuck" somehow makes you superior to people who care about things. Sure its a great defense mechanism but I think overall its a bad trend and I think it leads to mediocrity.
 
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To me, mediocrity means accepting everyone's definition of who you should be and settling there, instead of daring to be fully your authentic self. Anyone who lives an authentic life, is no where near mediocrity. There is such a wide range of ability, with someone always better or worse, it's almost as if society teaches if we are not the best then forget about following your passions. If you have a drive to be the best, then out-work the rest. It is more important to be happy and fulfilled. Society likes us to think we are immortal, and will have plenty of time later to fulfill our dreams, after we do what it wants first. Society wants to stay the same, but what it needs is progress.
 
Guess I'll answer my own question, since this thread flopped.

I think most people would agree that mediocrity is an undesirable thing and would associate it, as I do, with not achieving success. But then it's important to evaluate our notions of success. I started reading a book yesterday called The Queer Art of Failure, in which the author states, "I argue that success in a heteronormative, capitalist society equates too easily to specific forms of reproductive maturity combined with wealth accumulation." And this wealth accumulation seems to remain our standard of success, despite the fact that we've all been told a million times that "money can't buy happiness." And I started thinking about high school, where we vote on who's "most likely to succeed." What are we really voting for? Most likely to get rich? It irritates me that this one view of success is imposed on all of us, because it's certainly a shallow one.

Accumulating money and possessions is a lot of people's main goal in life...but what a waste of this existence that is. In the end, you can't take your money and possessions with you. I agree with you, [MENTION=5224]Sadie[/MENTION], that a life well lived, a successful life, is one filled with love and compassion. I like to think that we can take our love with us when we leave.

So when it comes to the expectations we have for our own lives and the behavior of others, I think there's too much pressure to achieve and accomplish. Because what is the value of any achievement that does not come from a place of love? I think that love, kindness, and compassion are the most we should expect from anyone, no matter how small the display.

I'm interested in hearing others' opinions on the matter.

Look, I see it like this. If you are striving to live an authentic life that is true to your own process of self discovery and self development, then this almost by defnition is not even relateable to the word or connotation of "mediocrity"

I know of really very, very, very few people that i would consider "mediocre". in fact, I can't actually think of any person that fits this. it takes all types, and everyone has something to contribute.

maybe i find no value in it, but someone will. and that stands on it's own.

when i think mediocre, i think it applies to individual actions, or efforts directed towards a specific end. but, not towards the whole of a person. man. actually, i can't think of anything probably less true or accurate about ANYBODY I can think of.

I honestly wouldn't concern yourself much with this question Benny, if you have indeed been doing so. the reality is everyone will produce a mediocre outcome in some area of their lives. but it neither defines them, nor even describes them at all.

it's not a word i even apply towards people. and beleive me... there is almost nothing i haven't applied towards a person if an when I saw it fit to do so...lol

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Guess it depends on who you ask. Many self actualized people are not happy. While many people who suffer in mediocrity seem quite content. There's the rub.


"happy".... not in the strict sense i would guess...very possibly not. but more alive. more present. and it's from that presence that they draw a deeper satisfaction. individual emotions are fleeting and somewhat irrelevent, to the paradigm in which they see the world on a moment to moment basis.

I would argue that this in itself is a source of profound happiness. but, that's really up for grabs.

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"happy".... not in the strict sense i would guess...very possibly not. but more alive. more present. and it's from that presence that they draw a deeper satisfaction. individual emotions are fleeting and somewhat irrelevent, to the paradigm in which they see the world on a moment to moment basis.

I would argue that this in itself is a source of profound happiness. but, that's really up for grabs.

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Agree, I guess what i meant was that what makes someone feel fulfilled varies from person to person. What's considered mediocre to one, is the height of accomplishment for someone else. So, when I said, someone who is seemingly self actualized may not be happy, I meant that someone who accomplished all that they wanted to achieve may still not feel fulfilled, but by everyone else's standard, they've strived to be the best, and can't be described as mediocre of course, while someone who others may see as mediocre may be content or surprisingly fulfilled.
 
Agree, I guess what i meant was that what makes someone feel fulfilled varies from person to person. What's considered mediocre to one, is the height of accomplishment for someone else. So, when I said, someone who is seemingly self actualized may not be happy, I meant that someone who accomplished all that they wanted to achieve may still not feel fulfilled, but by everyone else's standard, they've strived to be the best, and can't be described as mediocre of course, while someone who others may see as mediocre may be content or surprisingly fulfilled.

ahh ok i gotcha. ya, that sounds about right i believe.

i just have a very different conceptual connection to "self actualization" in that i don't necessarily relate it to "accomplishment" in any way. it often goes hand in hand...but that can be so incredibly broad, i just don't think of it. besides, it's not what it means... it's a state of being and view, not a list of achievements.

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ahh ok i gotcha. ya, that sounds about right i believe.

i just have a very different conceptual connection to "self actualization" in that i don't necessarily relate it to "accomplishment" in any way. it often goes hand in hand...but that can be so incredibly broad, i just don't think of it. besides, it's not what it means... it's a state of being and view, not a list of achievements.

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yeah, I think it goes back to the perception of self actualization. What does it mean to be self actualized? Maybe that's the true or real question. :m083:
 
mediocrity is a sign of a lack of give-a-shitness