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How severely f*cked up is the economy?

Why? Because being a consumer economy is going to keep people in jobs? Bullshit.

The only people you keep in jobs are the executives who own the means of production, and they're overseas.

Repair the economy by starting a new business in the USA that employs americans.

Seize the means of production! Revolution!

*Investors leave....*

U.S.- "Fuck"
 
Seize the means of production! Revolution!

*Investors leave....*

U.S.- "Fuck"

The means of production are in other nations. You'd have to do a mass invasion of asia, south america, africa, middle east and europe to seize the means of production.
 
End the debt

The International bankers control the means of production.

They control the federal reserve (they control the central banks in every country using this system). They control the production of money. They can decide to make too much money, too little money or a stable amount.

Recessions occur when the international bankers make money scarce. They stop paying loans out and they demand payments back. They also increase interest rates. They disguise this behaviour behind 'market forces' but they own the banks, the media and the corporations and can easily manipulate the markets. They create a bull market by allowing many cheap loans and by making money plentiful (eg in the 'roaring twenties', right before the crash of 1929), then they start selling their stock. Everyone else panics because they have paid for everything on credit and must now pay back their loans, so they sell their stock, really cheaply, which the international bankers buy up increasing their wealth.

Wealth is not lost during a recession it is just changing hands.

All the money the 'federal reserve' (it is not federal it is privately owned, the misnomer is to fool the public) print for the government has interest attached. This is debt for the public. The federal reserve doesn't really have the reserves to cover the money they print, they are actually just printing money out of thin air and charging the public for it (fractional reserve banking). They claim there are large gold reserves in Fort Knox, but it is believed they have actually sold this gold abroad. They refuse to let the press into Fort Knox to prove otherwise.

Abraham Lincoln got the Treasury department to print it's own money which did not have debt attached, called 'the greenback'. The International bankers didn't like this so they paid someone to shoot him.

All this is explained in 'the money masters' on google videos. You don't need a revolution to solve the recession, you just need a reform of banking practices.
 
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Repair the economy by starting a new business in the USA that employs americans.


BINGO!

And we need to get Obama off our backs so we can do this, the increase in taxes on our companies this year is effing absurd we had to lay off 3 carpenters (Americans). of our team of 5 we have the 2 best left directly related to business being much more expensive with the Democrats in control. Hopefully with those 2 republicans being elected in Liberal leaning areas by wide margins is a good sign of changes to come next year when we toss the libs out on their asses. People have had enough of the government meddling in their personal economics and the jobs are dying in droves every day because of it.
 
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BINGO!

And we need to get Obama off our backs so we can do this, the increase in taxes on our companies this year is effing absurd we had to lay off 3 carpenters (Americans). of our team of 5 we have the 2 best left directly related to business being much more expensive with the Democrats in control. Hopefully with those 2 republicans being elected in Liberal leaning areas by wide margins is a good sign of changes to come next year when we toss the libs out on their asses. People have had enough of the government meddling in their personal economics and the jobs are dying in droves every day because of it.

It's not because of the Democrats. Both sides are morons. At least the democrats care slightly more about the people.

and heh, I knew this was coming when I was a kid because americans didn't make things anymore, and the rest of the world was becoming economically dependant on them.
 
Democrats don't give a shit about people either.

They just want to make an entire population dependant upon them to gain their votes.
 
The means of production are in other nations. You'd have to do a mass invasion of asia, south america, africa, middle east and europe to seize the means of production.

The means of production consist of many things within the United States as well, including things like schools, courts, etc (not to mention all our farms).

Oh- we already have invaded South America- many times. Our presence is still felt there.
 
But never real invasions to take control of means of production. Sure you've backed coups to ensure that things don't get nationalised away from american investments, but you've never had your armies there.