by contribute, do you mean monetarily?
Not necessarily monetarily but it would probably easiest to do it that way.
well i don't know of any studies (but they're probably out there), but my personal opinion is that social deviants, such as criminals, contribute a lot to the progression of society. they highlight cracks in the legal system, which others are too willing to ignore - even if it's only by exploiting those cracks.
well i don't know of any studies (but they're probably out there), but my personal opinion is that social deviants, such as criminals, contribute a lot to the progression of society. they highlight cracks in the legal system, which others are too willing to ignore - even if it's only by exploiting those cracks.
Can u give an example?
i would, but not right now, my mind's a little fuzzy at the moment :/ i'll say it's more for the benefit of future societies than it is for present societies though, and that nobody just 'knows' things, it's always picked up from and through others and the environment, if only subconsciously.
That sounds ridiculously difficult to quantify, so I doubt you'll ever find any data on it. You need a working definition of "contribute" to start off.
I dont see why. We could start with an easy way of just seeing how much money people who have been to prison make in their lifetime. From there we could see how much they make before and after prison. So on.
I dont see why. We could start with an easy way of just seeing how much money people who have been to prison make in their lifetime. From there we could see how much they make before and after prison. So on.
Well, a lot of the people are imprisoned for doing damage to other people or financial crimes, which would have to be counted as a negative contribution if you want to look at it financially. Yes, you could look at how much money they make, but then that would just produce a bunch of skewed yet widely touted figures, largely because of the influence of class on the numbers. Poor people don't contribute much to society monetarily relative to rich people, but they often do jobs that are essential to the economy. Then you have people like Bernie Madoff (well, he is a special case).
The big thing though is that I don't see how knowing how much people make as a group would provide meaningful data for any government or private institution. The only way I can see the data being used is to exacerbate the problems already in place in our corrupt justice system and society's attitude toward the system.
I'm assuming you mean the income they make from their jobs, not from any sort of government support service.
Former inmates in general have a difficult time easing back into the workforce. Understandably, they face a lot of stigma from potential employers and most jobs that they can get tend to be low-income or minimum wage. Not mention, it's tough for them to educate or re-train. Courses or programs that help prepare students for better-paid occupations are not subsidized by the government and fees are out-of-pocket... something that holds many low-income workers (not just former inmates) at a disadvantage. It doesn't surprise me that many of these former inmates are statistically more likely to re-offend.
I really like the suggestions put forth in this article.
As for your request, next time I'm at work, I'll log into stats-can and see if I can dig any relevant statistics up.
Especially when there is a multitude of ways to get sent to jail. Seems to be tinier and tinier offences get you a criminal record. Though, you can get pardoned, I don't really hear about people getting one.Okay, so I just repeated TDHT without statistical evidence, hehe.
To me, it has always seemed like our society makes it nearly impossible to contribute as an ordinary citizen after one major fault. More through employers being able to screen them, and nearly always doing so.
Screw up once, you get the shit jobs. Not a very good motivator to contribute to society.
Okay, so I just repeated TDHT without statistical evidence, hehe.
To me, it has always seemed like our society makes it nearly impossible to contribute as an ordinary citizen after one major fault. More through employers being able to screen them, and nearly always doing so.
Screw up once, you get the shit jobs. Not a very good motivator to contribute to society.