Has the field of psychology failed men?

One of the problems with disaffected young men is that they can easily embrace violence. That’s manageable in stable societies, but in unstable ones it’s not so. It seems to me that the break point comes when a significant proportion of people decide that death is no worse than their lot in life and are prepared to take the risk of it in order to try and better their lot. All it takes then is for some demagogue to focus it and give it spurious legitimacy politically and morally and you have major war, backed not just by the young men, but by a large proportion of the whole society.

I don’t see any truly wise global political leaders at the moment who can collectively lead the world away from such a possibility- I hope to god they emerge if circumstances do deteriorate socially and economically.

Unfortunately violence is a natural response to what young men are facing when traditional culture is almost entirely stripped out coupled to not being allowed to really participate in the human experience socially and economically while being left the bill to a party they've never attended so to speak. Another is the death of the traditional family unit and monogamous relationships leaving very little else for stability etc. This year might prove that we are already at this tipping point where social upheaval becomes reality sadly.
 
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Men, mental health and ending the ‘man up’ mentality


Basically, social roles and economic trends are changing and getting more daunting and more complex, not less. Humans, especially young human males, are having the hardest time right now keeping up, adapting, and making sense of a world devoid of central meta-narratives to fit into. And meta-narratives aren't "over with", rather, there are too many meta-narratives coming and going to follow... idk just my thoughts based on what I'm able to gather from UN and other "official" data sources.

Simply put we're being deprived the resources and the opportunities that previous generations taken for granted resulting in an overall lower standard to living.
 
Men and women face some uniquely different psychological difficulties so I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that.
Some of them are socially orchestrated, yes. But not all of them.
Men and women are biologically different and face different hormonal issues as well which drive psychological problems in different directions.
 
We must acknowledge the differences, but always keep in mind we have far more in common with each other.

That said, I want to echo what @Wyote said, because of the top-down influence of hormones on those shared aspects.

Of course, that’s all apart from the cultural fuckery.

Cheers,
Ian
 
If you ever want to know the power of said hormones, talk to a trans man on androgens. Their stories are eye-opening.

Cheers,
Ian
 
Imagine if we stopped dividing the world into men and women and just addressed the psychological health of unique individuals as a whole. I think the binary is holding us back.
I agree but society is on the fast track of becoming a mouse utopia and many just don't care between the older generations that got theirs one one side and on the other ideologues that are happy to see men suffer.
 
If you ever want to know the power of said hormones, talk to a trans man on androgens. Their stories are eye-opening.

I'm not sure if you were around when this happened, but after I had sepsis, my hormones flatlined. I was on a low dose of testosterone for a little while (which all humans need), and my doctor took me off it after I explained my experiences taking it. I was on a low dose and I couldn't handle it. The only thing I liked about it was the confidence I felt for no reason whatsoever, but I constantly had to check myself to make sure I was actually doing a good job instead of feeling the effects of the T. (My productivity skyrocketed because I thought I was the bomb at everything.) I was much more irritable and lost my temper more easily.
 
I'm not sure if you were around when this happened, but after I had sepsis, my hormones flatlined.
I’m glad you didn’t.

*hugs* I had no idea you had sepsis.

Based on my own experience with it, I would not recommend it for anyone.

Aside from a dissolved femoral head, contracture, minor nerve damage, and a degree of dysautonomia, I came through it with no after effects. /s

Well Wishes,
Ian
 
 
 
One generation’s solution usually becomes the next generation’s problem. There’s so little common sense about, so little love. Even the concept of love is distorted these days and confined to its involuntary forms in romantic relationships and family ties.
 
One generation’s solution usually becomes the next generation’s problem. There’s so little common sense about, so little love. Even the concept of love is distorted these days and confined to its involuntary forms in romantic relationships and family ties.
Wow this video is deep
 
“A society of utility, for all the indisputable ways that it exploited men’s health and labor, and in an industrial context broke the backs and spirits of factory workers and destroyed the lungs of miners, had one saving grace: it defined manhood by character, by the inner qualities of stoicism, integrity, reliability, the ability to shoulder burdens, the willingness to put others first, the desire to protect and provide and sacrifice. These are the same qualities, recoded as masculine, that society has long recognized in women as the essence of motherhood. Men were publicly useful insofar as they mastered skills associated with the private realm of maternal femininity. Like mothers tending selflessly to their babes, men were not only to take care of their families but also their society without complaint; that was, in fact, what made them men. Masculinity as “a nurturing concept” was one of the few continuities anthropologist David Gilmore found in his cross- cultural study. A maternal conception of manhood was precisely what Henry Wallace had in mind when he compared the Common Man who served in World War II to “a she-bear who has lost a cub.”

“In a culture of ornament, by contrast, manhood is defined by appearance, by youth and attractiveness, by money and aggression, by posture and swagger and “props,” by the curled lip and petulant sulk and flexed biceps, by the glamour of the cover boy, and by the market-bartered “individuality” that sets one astronaut or athlete or gangster above another. These are the same traits that have long been designated as the essence of feminine vanity, the public face of the feminine as opposed to the private caring, maternal one. The aspects of this public “femininity"—objectification, passivity, infantilization, pedestal-perching, and mirror-gazing—are the very ones that women have in modern times denounced as trivializing and humiliating qualities imposed on them by a misogynist culture. No wonder men are in such agony. Not only are they losing the society they were once essential to, they are “gaining” the very world women so recently shucked off as demeaning and dehumanizing.”

– Susan Faludi, from Stiffed
 
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