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  1. Shai Gar

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    Not even going to bother watching it.

    The Bible, and proper Biblical Christianity is against Homosexuality. Does that mean you should care about the opinionions of some people who believe a magic sky daddy created the world in 7 days? Are you that weak you need to care about someone elses opinion to form your own?
     
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    You should watch the documentary. They make a fairly decent case to challenge that assertion.
     
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    It was a pretty good, eye-opening documentary. It was encouraging to see some genuine Biblical scholars applying themselves to make their arguments, using historical linguistic context. My own interpretation would not take so much accuracy for granted (i.e., assuming that Paul's doctrines as he wrote them must be correct, whether condemning or allowing homosexuality), but those arguments should be very handy for those who already Biblical literalists. There's nothing liking beating a fundamentalist at his own game.

    I thought Jesus Camp was better, but then I don't have as much personal interest in homosexuality as a homosexual would.
     
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    Side-tracking abit, for a seasoned horror movie buff, Jesus Camp takes first place as the scariest movie I've every watched.
     
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  5. Shai Gar

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    Seems pretty damn straight-forward to me.

    Of course if you want to worship in a major monotheistic religion that allows homosexuality...

    Hey, at least in Islam you're not put to death for it... if you repent and amend anyway. Still the more compassionate of the three major monotheistic religions.
     
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    An amusing quote from a muslim writer.

    The Highlighted bit was my favourite, and a personal opinion of mine.
     
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    If you don't want to watch the documentary, then I don't see any point in you commenting on it. The verses you mentioned are addressed in the documentary. :mno:

    As it says it the beginning of the documentary, "A 5th grade education of God is fine...as long as you are in the 5th grade." :m173:
     
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    The documentary also provides an interesting theory as to why people are threatened by homosexuality. :m129:
     
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    Sum it up for me! I'm on dialup speeds damnit. I don't care if my 5th grade knowledge of the magic sky daddy is limited. I wanna know science.
     
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    This means war!

    But do watch this documentary too. It's not as good, but it's still definitely good.
     
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    The documentary is a historical interpretation of the Bible that is collaborated by some religious leaders. It tries to put the 6 verses on homosexuality and the story of Sodom into the correct historical context. It also follows six Christian families and how they dealt with it when their children came out as gay.

    http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=festivals&jump=review&id=2471&reviewid=VE1117932526&cs=1

    There is some cute attempt at science in the documentary.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liAlLNA9cbY&feature=channel_page
     
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  12. Shai Gar

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    The way I see it, that has nothing to do with the religion and all about how much they love their family members. A truly "Christian" family would have (how I interpret the bible) have turned their children over to be killed. Whereas a truly loving family just wouldn't care.

    If you're going to be religious; I say follow your religion completely through its hypocrisies, to the bitter end.
     
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    That would be the whole, "5th grade education of God..." thing. It's a lot more complex than that.
     
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    No, Religion is rather simple and pure. It's only "Politically Correct" Social Apologists for religion that try and make it complicated.
     
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    No, people who actually spend their time understanding the Bible in historical context.
     
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    Whoa, whoa, you're completely skipping over one of the biggest reforms of Jesus's teaching there. Don't take things straight from the OT; check what's said in the NT too.
     
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    Sure, but he didn't delete a single word of The Law, he states that as well, In The New Testament.
     
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    That's another reason why Biblical literalism is self-defeating. (Though you should also distinguish between God's law and the law of Moses.) Christianity should give Jesus's reforms more weight than the laws of the Old Testament, since it is, after all, Christianity.
     
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    Except christ was only there to reaffirm the earlier laws of god, and provide some new ones. The old ones still had the same strength.
     

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