Feminism Test (5-scale)

[Princess Zucchini]

Feminism Test (5-scale) – IDR Labs

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The 5 Scales:

Traditionalism

Traditionalism refers to illiberal strands of philosophy which seek to preserve what they see as the “natural” and “traditional” order of things. In the past, this standpoint was chiefly represented by early 20th century thinkers such as Julius Evola and Rene Guenon. After a hiatus following World War II, Traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of “conservatism to the right of mainstream conservatism.” It is chiefly popular among younger voters who are skeptical of the liberal enlightenment principles that mainstream conservatives accept, uniting instead behind national pride, a critical stance towards feminism and Islam, and resistance to globalism.

Liberal Feminism

Liberal Feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted in enlightenment principles. Its classical works were penned by thinkers such as Mary Wollstonecraft and John Stuart Mill. This type of feminism holds that men and women are each other’s equals and as such deserve equal rights. It is this type of feminism that people allude to when they say “feminism just means equal rights.”
As opposed to other forms of feminism, Liberal Feminism is individualistic (rather than group-based): Men and women deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted to individuals, not genders or groups.
Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes. For example, if a profession is dominated by only one gender, that does not necessarily mean that something is wrong: It could be the result of individuals making different decisions in life.

Radical Feminism

Radical Feminism holds that men oppress women through internalized forms of dominance (i.e. patriarchy). Women must come together and end this oppression by rejecting traditional gender roles. Putting women in dresses, making them wear make-up and so on makes them sexual objects that perpetuate male dominance. Women must refuse to comply with the beauty standards that the patriarchy expects.
Radical Feminists see a link between men’s objectification of women and sexual violence and abuse. Prostitution, pornography, and advertisements that sexualize women are therefore not decisions that can be left to individual choice. They must be resisted by women everywhere as forms of male oppression.
As opposed to Liberal Feminism, which takes the individual as its focus, Radical Feminism holds that since men have oppressed women for so long, it may be necessary to discriminate against men in the process of revolutionizing society (for example by prioritizing women for high-end jobs or shutting men out of positions of power for a time).

Marxist Feminism

Marxist Feminism holds that the mode of production in capitalist societies is organized in a way that favors men’s abilities over women’s. As opposed to Radical Feminists, who see patriarchy as the source of gender inequality, Marxist Feminists see capitalism as the cause. Marxist Feminists argue that the structures of capitalist economies coerce women into assuming responsibility for unpaid domestic tasks (such as homemaking and child-rearing) while leaving men free to earn money in the public sphere. Gender equality can therefore never be achieved in a capitalist economy.
While Marxist Feminism was originally about economic revolution, more recent writers have changed their focus from economic issues to cultural ones, placing more of an emphasis on the fight for social justice than the fight to topple capitalism.
Not just women, but also people of color, sexual minorities, and transgender people have become focal points for Marxist Feminism in recent years. Intersectional Feminism is essentially a fusion of Marxist Feminist and Cultural Feminist ideas.

Cultural Feminism

Cultural Feminism holds that women and men are essentially different and that women are generally more nurturing, more empathic, and less violent than men. Cultural Feminists seek to celebrate these qualities, which they believe have been oppressed by men.
Cultural Feminists believe that both men and women are hurt by contemporary male-dominated society, which they see as encouraging male behavior such as competition and conflict. According to Cultural Feminism, if women were given more power there would be less violence, fewer wars, and more understanding in the world.
The goal of Cultural Feminism is not to bring about some pre-scripted political revolution, but to improve tolerance and diversity by celebrating women's special qualities and unique experiences. Like Marxist Feminism, Cultural Feminism has in recent years expanded its focus from championing not just the perspectives of women, but also those of sexual and racial minorities as well.

Opportunistic feminism

 

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That's a well balanced, unbiased test
Along those lines, I believe societal biases and pressure should mirror that.

Throughout my career I've worked for and with women of remarkable talent, steadfast execution, with passion for their job. The woman who was the lead systems architect on my team - I looked up to her leadership, and technical skill more than anyone in our department.

Likewise, around age 30 several female friends told me they were disallusioned by the "you can do it all" mantra. They realized they wanted to spend more time raising their children rather than climbing the corporate ladder. That choice is a woman's right too, although it's often mocked and shamed.

On women in the military, Jordan Peterson's interview with Tulsi Gabbard several years ago is worth a listen. Tulsi was on the front lines in the Iraq war. Her rational insight is second to none. Particularly when Peterson cautiously raises the question about a female soldier being captured by the enemy as a prisoner of war. Torture and death would be the worst for a man. A woman would likely suffer the additional horror of gang rape by her captors.

Her answer blew my mind - she had already thought deeply about that before going to war and had decided she was ready and willing to take that risk. Skip to 7:30 in the video for that part. Informed consent to these realities should not be ignored.

 

[Princess Zucchini]

That's a well balanced, unbiased test
Along those lines, I believe societal biases and pressure should mirror that.

Throughout my career I've worked for and with women of remarkable talent, steadfast execution, with passion for their job. The woman who was the lead systems architect on my team - I looked up to her leadership, and technical skill more than anyone in our department.

Likewise, around age 30 several female friends told me they were disallusioned by the "you can do it all" mantra. They realized they wanted to spend more time raising their children rather than climbing the corporate ladder. That choice is a woman's right too, although it's often mocked and shamed.

On women in the military, Jordan Peterson's interview with Tulsi Gabbard several years ago is worth a listen. Tulsi was on the front lines in the Iraq war. Her rational insight is second to none. Particularly when Peterson cautiously raises the question about a female soldier being captured by the enemy as a prisoner of war. Torture and death would be the worst for a man. A woman would likely suffer the additional horror of gang rape by her captors.

Her answer blew my mind - she had already thought deeply about that before going to war and had decided she was ready and willing to take that risk. Skip to 7:30 in the video for that part. Informed consent to these realities should not be ignored.

Feminism is pretty irrelevant now. I don't feel like getting into why, but it's basically just D.A.R.E., except with patriarchy instead or D-rugs.

 

[Hyacinth]

Feminism is pretty irrelevant now. I don't feel like getting into why, but it's basically just D.A.R.E., except with patriarchy instead or D-rugs.

I agree. For the most part women have just as much rights as men. Some would argue with me, (my daughter included) but imo we are genuinely surrounded by men who have been pushed to the brink of what they should have been by a society that loves to fight just to fight. I’m sorry there are just certain things men can do that women can’t physically speaking. Call me old fashion but many of the changes that we have made is what has caused some of the current challenges we face. There is such a thing as taking things to the extreme and going overboard with it but that’s just one person’s opinion and I’m a nobody so….
That being said I still took the test just for kicks and giggles

 

[Wyote]

Feminism is pretty irrelevant now. I don't feel like getting into why, but it's basically just D.A.R.E., except with patriarchy instead or D-rugs.

I DARE you to be a classical feminist








Don't do drugs though

 

[Princess Zucchini]

I agree. For the most part women have just as much rights as men. Some would argue with me, (my daughter included) but imo we are genuinely surrounded by men who have been pushed to the brink of what they should have been by a society that loves to fight just to fight. I’m sorry there are just certain things men can do that women can’t physically speaking. Call me old fashion but many of the changes that we have made is what has caused some of the current challenges we face. There is such a thing as taking things to the extreme and going overboard with it but that’s just one person’s opinion and I’m a nobody so….
That being said I still took the test just for kicks and giggles View attachment 99244

I do think that things are hard for women, but not in a way that feminism helps, if that makes sense. I also don't think a gender war accomplishes anything. It's almost like people have to decide the solution to the gender issues, and that's more what separates the camps than being the actual gender. For some people it's premarital cohabitation and career-centering, others it's polyamory, others it's being trad. It's a combination of values and necessity. Idealism almost always comes second to utilitarianism.