Do people realise the truth about power?

This is from a Noam Chomsky book. National governments have always? acted in the interests of the wealthy over ordinary people. Wars were never/rarely about national defense or defending freedom and democracy. Many will know that most conflicts are about maintaining or extending state power and wealth (eg. Iraq war), but it's usually? much more than that. All that matters is maintaining elite privilege and wealth and/or extending it, even if that involves loss of innocent lives. Even fascism wasn't opposed when it didn't challenge other nations wealth and privilege. WW2 has been painted as the "good war" but this is mostly a myth, as these pages explain...

 

While nothing new, it does go against everything the mainstream media and establishment puts out. It's not widely know really, except among well read and educated people, even though through the lens of history it isn't at all surprising. It's probably more suprising that so many fall for the propaganda myths which have been drilled into us for many years. If it was widely known about, our politics would be far more radical.

 

It's not a natural order, it's an artificial order. It has been created by man. Corporations are also far more national than we are led to believe. It's also far more national in general. That film looks like propaganda in itself, based on a flawed understanding of capitalism and how the world works. It only serves the staus quo, which could be dismantled if enough people woke up. You seem to fall for these "myths" that are peddled?

 

Sure but the current ways are not working very well are they? It's too late not to do anything.

 

What is not widely known. Funny how people tend to assume that, but it just isn't so. Is it the thought "I know this, so everyone else must also know it?!" [shakes head]

 

Probably also due to the SJ majority who struggle to perceive nuance and shrink from complex politics. Just like how religions provide comforting stories which hypnotise and snag many minds, so a political/historical narrative which chimes with the lives and hopes of the many, will naturally be clinged onto for sure. The Intuitives in power tend to be more ENTP, ENTJ. We need an NF uprising lol, oh we had that with Hitler and Mugabe and Bin Laden lol Good NF ones tend to get crucified (Jesus) or put in prison (Mandela). Maybe Ghandi did well.

 

I do tend to agree since my understanding only came about by reading books. It’s like a veil was lifted, and things are forever seen differently. No matter the psychology of a person, ignorance is ignorance, especially wrt international politics which one is usually not able to perceive at first hand.

 

I think you may be conflating awareness of powerful countries bullying poorer ones with national strategies of lying about their belief in democracy and freedom, when in fact they show contempt for both, unless it hurts elite interests. It's the elite interest part (directly related to working class oppression) which is not that well know about (especially outside of forums like this) and which is among the most controversial apsects. People will die to maintain inequality in wealthy western countries. That's pretty radical, and why western elites/establishment secretly liked the nazis until they posed a direct threat to them. If that was widely know about, the British Royal Family would not be given much support from the population, nor would Remebrance day have much significance; and Saving Private Ryan and similar films would seem daft. The Good War Myth runs through the West like the letters in Blackpool Rock. Sure, there have been some Hollywood films which expose national corruption, but I'm not aware of any which show that Western elites supported the nazis, and why. Contempt and oppression of working people is the reason. If that was widely understood, politics would be so different because most on the right reject that analysis.

 

I think it happens naturally through people's common self interest (most people aren't INFJs lol). It's not like a widespread conspiracy. Much of it happens becuase people go along with the status quo and resist change. Many involved proably truly believe the lies themselves. I think that's why many cannot easily comprehend these ideas.

 

So everyone has read Chomsky? As someone else said, most people don't read books, and the books about this stuff are pretty niche. How else are people going to know this stuff? I am certain you are wrong.