What's the purpose of defining something as a disorder and not an illness?
Because they are cured differently. A disorder can be cured by changing a persons way of thinking. An illness can't be cured by simply changing a persons way of thinking.
What's the purpose of defining something as a disorder and not an illness?
It's great that you knew you needed something else. It's also nice to recognize that your experience may not be everyone's experience, not because they're ignorant about their problem, but because their biology might be different from yours and their physiological needs or processes may require a different approach.
I'm sorry if this is coming across as condescending; that's not my intent, your posts are just kind of mind-blowingly out of touch and narrow-minded, to be honest. And the saddest part about it is how they de-legitimize people who are already struggling with something rather difficult in a world where mental illness is synonymous with stigma. Way to perpetuate.
Well not quite that simple. But I agree that most mental disorders are reversible. Mental disorders are vastly complex and require equally complex methods to undo them. (Which is a system I am working on as the main focus of my research into psychological disorders.)
Because they are cured differently. A disorder can be cured by changing a persons way of thinking. An illness can't be cured by simply changing a persons way of thinking.
Because they are cured differently. A disorder can be cured by changing a persons way of thinking. An illness can't be cured by simply changing a persons way of thinking.
It's funny because if anybody in here read my blog they would realize that I recognize disorders as serious issues. I was just talking about them in my blog last week. LOL. You guys got me all twisted.
Yes, but in previous posts you act like its nothing that serious. You say "Changing your way of thinking" like it's easy. That is also not completely true either. When it comes to both BPD and CPTSD changing your way of thinking or working through your thought processes can help with certain elements but in no way covers it all. There are plenty of symptoms a person can't control and just has to live with. Both of these disorders are chronic.
I think [MENTION=5375]chulo[/MENTION] is talking from a high-level, big picture perspective. In its very essence, it is as simple as changing the way you think or act. However, carrying out that big picture idea is vastly complex.
I could be wrong, but I think this is the disconnect that makes it sound like he's being very nonchalant or ignorant about it, but isn't.
I think [MENTION=5375]chulo[/MENTION] is talking from a high-level, big picture perspective. In its very essence, it is as simple as changing the way you think or act. However, carrying out that big picture idea is vastly complex.
I could be wrong, but I think this is the disconnect that makes it sound like he's being very nonchalant or ignorant about it, but isn't.
I don't see how that is any different at all from saying that you cure the flu by becoming well. Of course that's what you want to do but it says nothing at all about how.
While I agree, that's still oversimplifying.
I don't understand the point of what you are saying. Can you please elaborate or re-word it? Was he supposed to explain the 'how'?
Where do you believe thinking comes from dude? Some magic place?
If your mind is altered past a certain extent then any input which attempts to repair your thinking becomes warped since you need the thing which is in disrepair in order to absorb it in a meaningful way. Communication and perception are effected in similar fashion.
In other words it comes to a point where the tool you would need to make repairs is the one that is broken and it cannot fix itself because it is in disrepair. I think the recursive nature of this should be obvious even to a layman. If you aren't thinking right then how can you even start to?
I mean explain schizophrenia for example.
C-PTSD is an injury, not an illness.
Why didn't anyone jump on her ass??? LOL
....Eeep. I didn't expect someone being affected with this disorder. I'm so sorry to hear it; I hope you'll get the necessary treatment and be able to get better ASAP. *hugs [MENTION=5297]Neverwhere[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4871]CindyLou[/MENTION]*
I'm still wondering, what's the difference between C-PTSD and BPD?
I get a feeling that C-PTSD is more....nuanced, more pervasive form of PTSD;
at least in real life it's one disorder which symptoms is not as 'explosive' in appearance as PTSD (or at least the way media portrays the disorder). C-PTSD seems....self-sabotaging. Or imploding.
Am I right in that assessment?
Questions; I do have some. I apologize beforehand if my words offend any of you. >_< @Neverwhere @CindyLou
What sort of treatment works for C-PTSD? From @Neverwhere 's story and your plans, it appears behavioural therapy seems to work better for you than say, medication?
I'm personally conflicted about the wording; what sort of abuse causes C-PTSD? As in, how long? How severe? How helpless one's got to be? >_>
And if I may get a bit personal, how does the disorder affect your life?
From just the wikipedia article I get the impression that C-PTSD affected one's self perception -and- relationship with other people...just like PTSD.
But again, the nuance seems to portray C-PTSD as something that's a tad more pervasive and subtle and self-affecting.
Not a -reaction-, but a -distortion-.
Less 'alien invasion' compared to PTSD, more 'house of mirrors' ?
The first paragraph from the article there -- it's pretty straightforward i think.Complex post-traumatic stress disorder (C-PTSD) is a psychological injury that results from protracted exposure to prolonged social and/or interpersonal trauma in the context of either captivity or entrapment (a situation lacking a viable escape route for the victim), which results in the lack or loss of control, helplessness, and deformations of identity and sense of self.
Fast forward to 10:00. See what this BPD sufferer has to say about it. He says the exact thing as me "it's not an illness".
[video=youtube;967Ckat7f98]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967Ckat7f98[/video]