I guess when I see these threads, I just wonder what you hope to achieve by posting them, Flavus, I'm sure yo're painfully aware by now that the mass majority of forum members here are liberal slanting, or at least, tend to dislike the tone of these particular kind of threads you make. There are a few people who then post in agreement with you, and they're always the same people. Why do we need to hash this out over and over again? What possible meaningful dialog are you trying to have here, and do you really think you are going to be successful?
Somehow I skipped your post.
I do oppose illiberal ideology (especially when it gives itself the ironic title of liberal). It seems to me that many people are upset that I do not adopt their mental methodology of reletavistic pluralism. They hold to accepting all viewpoints, but somehow cannot live with non-pluralists. (That's a little swipe, but it's not my point).
I posted this thread because students were killed senselessly. I'm all for people sacrificing themselves for their values, or beliefs (especially when motivated by love); but I detest that governments and ideologues sacrifice others for the sake of their twisted vision of imaginary futures, all the while ignoring history.
Years ago I was present at a briefing that discussed Muslim immigration. One 'trivial' item really stuck with me: a Muslim population will always generate a certain level of terrorist activity (think of demographic bell curves), at a rate much higher than other populations... But (this is what bugged me), the projected losses and disruption are considered to be within acceptable limits.
I post these threads because they are news worthy in themselves; but also because a significant number of people, for whatever reason, are in denial, or simply deny there is an issue with certain specific ideologies. Islam is a problem, in no small part because it is especially impervious to internal reform.
I don't think problems can be constructively addressed by sweeping them under the rug; so I occasionally sweep the problem into the open. Yes the replies are predictable, but perhaps people will either become aware of their aggressive denial of an issue, or at least grow weary of trying to suppress discussion, which is trying to find solutions.
Again, I won't quietly say the situation is acceptable and fantastic, while also quietly shrugging when people are periodically killed by disgusting muslim terrorists. (Would you rather have me ignore it, or victim-blame the grieving social network of the victims' classmates, university community, families, or country?)
No one seems to get the notion that a country should grieve for their slain citizens... and it doesn't help that crazies start harping on about being more tolerant of the perpetrators.
I just can't absorb such an artificial repudiation of reality in favour of ideology.
MBTI-wise, perhaps I'm less sensitive to "keeping things sweet", or not rocking the boat. I'm more focused on seeing things as they are, identifying issues, and cultivating solutions.
Post script: Admittedly, I do get some satisfaction out of the specific butthurt that arises when an ideologue is confronted with an inescapable reality. Trump's election was pure gold in this respect. My enjoyment aside, I would rather the Dems come to terms with their need for self-reform, and win next time... than to have them bury their heads in the sand of self-justification, only to lose again and feed my gloating.
