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  • Oh, and Junia is a controversial name in Biblical text. The theory is she was a woman, since it was a common enough Latin name for females, but no male "Junia" folks existed before much later. If she was a female, it'll turn a few denominations upside-down; it means that women can have leadership over churches (I'm looking at *you*, Southern Baptists!).
    Sweetie, you're 100% okay. That lady was a nutburger. Who goes trolling tiny, unknown internet sites to express how "appalled" they were that their name was mentioned? Seriously?

    And I'm a mod-ish: I'm actually an administrator. Me, TheLastMohican, and IndigoSensor are administrators (we're one step above mod) and Odyne, NaturVindur, Entyqua, TheDaringHatTrick, and Wyote are mods. Deathjam and NeverAmI are our tech gurus. DJ owns the site (which is another long story...:D)
    I was just asking if you went by a different name on some other forum, as I don't recognize your present name.
    I'm curious about something. A lot of people on PersonalityNation are familiar to me from PersonalityCafe and TypologyCentral, but the admin(founder?) stands out as unknown. What gives?
    Lol - I know, babe. But it's like learning a new language. You're in NF country, and if you want to speak to the heart of an NF you have to use NF language. I'm a bit thicker skinned so I know what you're doing and why, but others may find your way too abrasive and they'll want to judge you instead of discussing Jung or MBTI theory - which benefits no one. Try it again; you'll get it. See if my example that I posted helps.
    I saw just after I posted, but my comment still stands. Remember what I said in the beginning; just watch yourself. When you are told a similar thing by multiple sides, it means that there is bearing behind it, despite what you might think or see within yourself.
    No no no. I was quoting you. The fact that you said you were a type 8, and that you were using it as an excuse for your behavior, and that is simply a bad thing to do. For me, I am most definitely a 1. Sorry for the unclear communication.
    Hey, I didn't want to derail that thread further, but I wanted to say something.

    Good ol' Jung discovered a substantial pattern, but he was far too vague(leading to misinterpretation, which is important to avoid), and presented his definitions in a way that makes them look more like archetypes.
    I find that Extroverted orientation of a function is better compared with expanding the context, and Introverted orientation with having a more reductionistic approach, which is consistent with Jung's definition of abstraction.


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    Abstraction. A form of mental activity by which a conscious content is freed from its
    association with irrelevant elements
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    Reductive - A Reductive process is that which breaks down the context or understanding; it orients towards the root from the point of access, reducing the category into multiple distinct categories in the process.

    Expansive - An Expansive process is that which compounds the context or understanding; it orients towards manifestations from the point of access, expanding the category into a more inclusive one in the process.

    Now, I realize you can say these are subject to interpretation too, but I like them better. :D
    :D Avenge me! :p Lol!

    Seriously though, I think a few people benefited from what you shared. But I totally understand that head-meet-wall butt. If it's something you don't feel like doing, no worries! But don't think people weren't listening...and don't think folks aren't strong enough to debate it. ;) Just explain and back up what you have, and take secondary theories into consideration.

    It's all good! :D
    ;) And you're asking NFs, mostly 4s, to toughen theirs?...;) Gotta be compromise, m'man. Gotta be.

    Think of it this way: If you have something you really want to be heard, you'll have to change how you say it depending on the group of people you're presenting it to. Otherwise, it falls on really deaf (and sometimes overly dramatic) ears.
    If you believe in something you shouldn't let it distract you from posting; just expect flak - and also cite your references (or state that it's your personal theory). People like to explore where the ideas came from, and when you give them references, there's no room to argue or complain. :D

    I think most of what you say is on target. It just may need a bit of "softening" for this crowd, if you know what I mean.
    Hey, you can post my thing about Ni if you want.

    I made most of it up though, based on bits of info I found so I
    Typical Ne sidetracking. Lets get back to what started this.

    You said: You don't tap into Fi being an Fe user.

    This is an ultimate statement. One that you later denied saying. Because it's wrong, and you know it, and so does the article you linked me. You can do, you just don't very often.

    Now stop making up arguments in your head like a typical ENTP. :p
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