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    Pin "Magnificent Bastard" / Ren's Counterpart

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    How would you identify yourself ideologically? What policies and principles do you support?

    I would consider myself a Centrist by international standards in that I am not a Fascist or Communist. Let alone a Left-Libertarian or Right Libertarian. In the American sense, I sit very much in line with the New Democrat coalition of the Democratic Party but believe that the Progressive-wing of the party makes legitimate criticisms of the status quo.

    Policy:
    I would like to see zero-net carbon emissions in the United States.

    I'm opposed to the death penalty.

    I'm think that people have a constitutional right to abortion if they so choose.

    I support universal healthcare, that being a system where all citizens of a country are assured access to healthcare.

    I support universal education at all levels, that being a system where all citizens of a country are assured access to education.

    I support universal housing, that being a system where all citizens of a country are ensured shelter.

    I support universal access to food, that being a system where all citizens of a country are assured access to nutritional provisions.
     
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    Yeah, I said it. I think that every person is morally entitled to food, shelter, healthcare, and education.

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    I've been through all sides, policies, principles and visions... until, at last - I ended up at what they taught was the worst; except, I began to see it from a new light.

    We live in a fucked world right now, undoubtedly, all sides agree with that.
    Depletion, degeneration, destruction and death are the gods of our times... they give us the offerings of maximum profit for the least effort expended. The media pose as the modern bishops and churches while the corporate CEO's are the kings and rulers, our politicians are nothing but pastors and messengers.

    It takes much more knowledge, skill and perseverance to be regenerative and continuous.
    To the world and powers we live in; such a person in power would be a threat. They would have to paint them as the devil, and taking such a side would have to be incriminated.

    Victors get to paint the image of the defeated in history.
    I know only of one man, by which it is not possible to shed a positive light onto without being burned like a witch in this day and age by the modern church.

    Wicked times are all times... historically; the stupidities may change, but the stupidity itself remains.



    So much is twisted, I don't even know where to begin.
     
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    We are the have and have not society.

    Though we do not need a socialist government, we do need equalities in housing, healthcare, food, and education.
     
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    I often see things case-by-case.
    Expressing things as concrete policy or laws isn't easy for me. It's really something I should know more about. Law is difficult for me to wrap my head around.

    That being said, most people would say I'm leftist (US spectrum).
     
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    I would say this is my party if I had to label myself, though:



    THE RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH
     
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    This is the biggest issue in Europe. In US rents and housing actually aren't SO expensive, relative to the level of income. Of course I'm not talking about NY, LA etc. I heard that you can get a decent house in the midwest for like 150k-200k. That seems quite cheap to me (if it's true) for American level of income.

    In Europe the issue is that...it's too beautiful lol. I read that by 2030, more foreigners than Italians will live in places like Florence. Because of free movement of capital + low/non existing property tax, every rich foreigner can come in, buy a few properties in a market where supply is already low, and rack up the price. Even in my modest central European country it's happening. It's impossible to get an apartment in the capital for less than 200k (this is without interest on mortgage) while average yearly income is around 15k.

    Basic supply and demand model doesn't work for housing. At least not in the world with free movement of capital and high inequality.
     
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    Esoteric Hitlerism
     
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    In my opinion it is wrong to categorise people linguistically, it is divisive politics; one should really just determine based on actions - if one just acts based on what happens there's nothing wrong with it. The problem arises only after you NAME an "out group" whereupon you can be called a hater. There's no problem until you talk about it...

    The idea of transcending humanity, with a direction is all that is needed; a proper view of the world.
    Many problems arise because of the way we see things, many don't actually exist.
     
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    You saying "fvck you" is just war on the small scale, the rich and powerful leech off of that to say it with bigger and badder toys and to an opponent with a name...

    The problem literally doesn't exist if you don't talk about it. That is the best use of the word "literally" there is in the world.

    It's not a natural problem. It's teaching to express hate.

    Economically, it even reaches food...

    Think about it(excluding birth-defects), all our ancestors were healthy.
    Everybody would be healthy, but they told us that something was making us unhealthy in our food.
    The seven countries study and lipid hypothesis are flat out wrong; and our entire system of consumption is built around that.
    New they divide the food and bring out industry to supposedly solve that, the food industry exploded - but it made people unhealthy.
    Unnatural fats, emulsifiers, sweeteners, additives of all kind - some are gaining weight, some can't gain weight - or all other sorts of metabolic or nervous problems and brain deterioration due to lack of proper nutrition as a result in elderly care homes, maybe they're feeling depressed because the world seems to only be going to shit, or angry because they also tell everyone to be against something of course so you need to consume all the drama on media...

    and eventually you start hating someone too.

    Medication for problems we created & destruction of the environment by replacing what was at home on the soil you live on.

    They just manage to bring it into every aspect of your life, industry feeds off of it because they're all against each other - that's why you need a leader.

    If you don't have an absolute leader, there will just be people behind the curtains that are against each other and pull the strings.
     
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    My view:
    I think that we need new Socrates. Great master/ teacher who can educate new ruler. You know.. people don't want to be free, they want safety and security. Religion provided this in the past and now we try to rely on our state. But who can lead it correctly? The weakest "die" in capitalism and socialism buries talents and development.
     
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    I don't mean to open a can of worms here, but 1 in 33 babies are born with a birth defect.
    And this doesn't include things that develop over time.
    Before medicine, the infant mortality rate was enormous.
    The lifespan was significantly shorter.
    So no, our ancestors weren't "healthy," they just died faster.
     
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    Lmao

    Personally I'm an Evangelical Maoist

    Actually I'm pretty much center left. I'm a Macronist I suppose.
     
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    Whoa man.
     
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    Same. I'm probably a macaroni-est too.
     
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    I laughed (guiltily) :p
     
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    @Pin i like where you stand and i support much of the same that you outlined.

    where it can get tricky is translating the theoretical ideology into tangible physical policy and action. That is easier said than done, not to mention the exciting chaos of implementation of said policy.

    I think ideology is very important however, and people should be clear about what they believe and why they believe it.
    After all, it's our underlying beliefs and ideologies, moralities and ethics that will influence our perception and behaviour.
    How we see people and the world, our beliefs about such things are everything in terms of how we relate and impact each other.

    I would like to see politics evolve away from idea of parties and spectrums to more on the basis of individual policy. This will be extraordinarily complex to set up but i believe that is a possibility for the future with current technology. This will be particularly important in regards to paying taxes, knowing that we have some sort of choice about where tax dollars end up. I think citizenry is a right that should be taken seriously.
    But ideology will always have to play a role somewhat. For example, imagine if policies had to be clearly outlined and posted in the media and online, and then we had some simple way of conducting a referendum on each policy. You could agree/disagree with a policy based on either underlying ideology or the practical implications of the policy itself.

    Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand is a truly inspirational leader. Her approach and success gives me a lot of faith in what's possible. God bless Jacinda

    My basic ideology is humanist. I believe that all people are important and have rights. The Earth is important and has rights. Policies should basically be about the protection and facilitation of the rights of people, animals and the Earth
     
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    Ideology is for noobs as ultimate it can be exploited be it those who create such or those who fallow later as the case has often been through out history and religion is no exception. What society needs is a foundation of good values that are easily applied regardless of differences to help keep society stable and cohesive.
     
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    The problem is that defenders of opposing ideologies will often both claim to hold the values you're talking about :-/
     
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