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Just very curious how do you guys feel about all those chemtrails in the sky? How aware are you of what they are, what are they for and the lack of official info about this happening?
 
moonlightam said:
Just very curious how do you guys feel about all those chemtrails in the sky? How aware are you of what they are, what are they for and the lack of official info about this happening?
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I don't believe the whole chemtrails theory. I think the trails are just a by-product of the jet engines, nothing more. If you have a good source though point me to it.
 
chulo said:
I don't believe the whole chemtrails theory. I think the trails are just a by-product of the jet engines, nothing more. If you have a good source though point me to it.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8338853.stm

"Stratospheric aerosols seem to offer the most effect for the least investment, and could be deployed soon, but present an unknown risk to the environment." <<< This is what worries me.

And by the looks of it 72% consent.>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15399832
 
chulo said:
Interesting and scary. If we try to fix it we could mess it up worse was the first thing I thought.
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the scariest thing is that they will try to "fix" it as cheap as possible without considering the effect on everything else that will be sprayed :( and people seem to not know about it despite "agreeing" to it.
 
moonlightam said:
Just very curious how do you guys feel about all those chemtrails in the sky? How aware are you of what they are, what are they for and the lack of official info about this happening?
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Its a conspiracy theory. My feelings are dismissive about conspiracy theory.

This does not mean that I deny the possibility that some conspiracy theories are actually valid. However, I limit what I will allow to concern me to those things which are definite, not simply possible.
 
Flavus Aquila said:
Its a conspiracy theory. My feelings are dismissive about conspiracy theory.

This does not mean that I deny the possibility that some conspiracy theories are actually valid. However, I limit what I will allow to concern me to those things which are definite, not simply possible.
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strange to regard BBC news as conspiracy theory...
 
moonlightam said:
strange to regard BBC news as conspiracy theory...
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There is a discrepancy between the title of this thread and the opening post: the former about geo-engineering possibilities - the latter about what is commonly discussed as a covert process of releasing chemicals into the atmosphere by aircraft (chem-trails).

My answer is to the chem-trail post.
 
Geoengineering

The talk in the corporate media has shifted from 'global warming' to 'climate change' now after leaked documents showed that some scientists had been cooking the books with their figures

This thread is about how people might be deliberately affecting our climatic conditions

I've been watching the skies recently and have noticed how days that the weather forecasters have predicted to be sunny and have started as such with clear blue skies have changed as the skies have been criss crossed with chemtrails flowing from planes passing through the stratosphere. Shortly after this the clouds thicken, blocking out the sun, the winds pick up and the temperatures drop.

It is believed by some that the military is spraying nanotechnology into the atmosphere from planes to affect temperatures on earth

This first clip shows a manager from the British government's weather department, known as the MET office talking about ways in which conditions on earth can be affected:

[video=youtube;BEy9aM9g6Jk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEy9aM9g6Jk[/video]
 
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[video=youtube;DNFy2xFPMIo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNFy2xFPMIo[/video]
 
[video=youtube;5zX5EzX6RBY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zX5EzX6RBY[/video]
 
This clip shows scientists at a conference admitting that although they have studied the effects of dropping alumina into the stratosphere they have not published their findings:

[video=youtube;XREsFIMX7g4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREsFIMX7g4[/video]
 
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[video=youtube;2LqZ-bCSejs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqZ-bCSejs[/video]
 
David de Rothschild, author of a book on global warming and a member of the Rothschild banking dynasty which is behind the wests central banking system talks about 'global governance'

[video=youtube;4XOmJY8WB-w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=4XOmJY8WB-w[/video]
 
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The head of the rothschild family talks about their weather prediction service they have created! They are actually making money out of predicting the weather while some believe they are behind geoengineering.

That's a little reminiscent of the plot of a James Bond film where the villain not only owns a news channel but he also manufactures disasters that his news channels can then report on!

[video=youtube;afrb7uSKWGQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afrb7uSKWGQ[/video]
 
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One of the most interesting things the guy says in the clip in the OP towards the end of the clip is that one of the side effects of geoengineering is that there will be a warming of the poles.

A warming of the poles...i guess that would melt ice, which is one of the main thing the mainstream media always talk about as one of the big indicators of 'global warming'
 
"Some scientists had been cooking the books"

muir said:
The talk in the corporate media has shifted from 'global warming' to 'climate change' now after leaked documents showed that some scientists had been cooking the books with their figures
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The Climatic Research Unit email controversy (also known as "Climategate") began in November 2009 with the hacking of a server at the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA) by an external attacker.Several weeks before the Copenhagen Summit on climate change, an unknown individual or group breached CRU's server and copied thousands of emails and computer files to various locations on the Internet. Climate change critics and others denying the significance of human caused climate change argued that the emails showed that global warming was a scientific conspiracy, in which they alleged that scientists manipulated climate data and attempted to suppress critics.

The story was first broken by climate change critics on their blogs,[SUP][6][/SUP] with columnist James Delingpole popularising the term "Climategate" to describe the controversy.[SUP][7][/SUP]
Eight committees investigated the allegations and published reports, finding no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

[video=youtube;MfX-94uLDio]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfX-94uLDio[/video]
 
Why are you supporting the oil companies, muir?
 
Please read this article: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/07/contrails.climate/

While the temperature range is significant, whether the jet clouds have a net effect on global warming remains unknown.

"I think what we've shown are that contrails are capable of affecting temperatures," said lead scientist David Travis of the University of Wisconsin, Whitewater. "Which direction, in terms of net heating or cooling, is still up in the air."
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