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I don't think all INFJs are like that. But I saw many who are.
This guy has some other videos with this theory going for other types:
[video=youtube;5WCafufy2Z4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCafufy2Z4[/video]
[video=youtube;e1MoTmG5V6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1MoTmG5V6E[/video]

To be honest man i don't think i'm going to listen to this guy anymore

On technical matters I like listening to people who are clear, direct and sure of what they are saying....i just don't rate this guy

Also i think Isabella was spot on about injustice. if you look at things like maslows hierarchy of needs they tend to see having a social conscience as a good thing....it should not be brushed off as a 'defence mechanism'

heck its even highly logical to have a social conscience because if you do not see other peoples injustices as your injustice then at some point it will come round to bite you in the ass

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Niemöller
 
To be honest man i don't think i'm going to listen to this guy anymore

On technical matters I like listening to people who are clear, direct and sure of what they are saying....i just don't rate this guy

Also i think Isabella was spot on about injustice. if you look at things like maslows hierarchy of needs they tend to see having a social conscience as a good thing....it should not be brushed off as a 'defence mechanism'

heck its even highly logical to have a social conscience because if you do not see other peoples injustices as your injustice then at some point it will come round to bite you in the ass

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Niemöller
I don't see having a moral conscience as something to do with Fe :D, that's why I do think the guy in the video has a good point about a superficial use of Fe in INFJs and ISFJs.
I think is good because it can lead to self-development, something which every one of us needs. In Socionics, which in my opinion are far more accurate and scientific than MBTI, it is stated that we can develop within us EVERY function, even Te or Si. It just takes determination, strong will, and a honest desire to persevere in this matter.
Its like this: some INFJs remain all their life at Ni and a bit of Fe level, others almost discover how to effectively use all the functions.
These things are not something standard, something nailed in a rock. I mean, seriously, in the last time, I begin to think there aren"t really any types. Its just that some people start with different strenghts and weaknesses when they are born, and after that, it takes perseverence to learn.
For me, INFJ is not a type. Is a specific prefference for some mode of taking information, which in time can develop to a whole new level. For me, ENTJ is not a type. Is just a inborn, specific mode of operating, of taking information and thinking...as time passes by, the people who have these so called "types", can learn and advance far more, at a whole new level, mastering new skills, new ways to take information, and new ways to process it.
So yeah, I am fully sure that MBTI and Socionics, and other stuffs like this, are just some instruments, just some tools to DESCRIBE the human behaviour in very general lines, how people naturaly behave, how they naturaly preffer. It has nothing to do with PRESCRIPTION. Other than that, MBTI and Socionics is a big fraud, and to rely on it, is just to limit your potential of growth, and put yourself in a box, put other people in a box, and most impotantly, with devastating effects, it to JUDGE people by that box.

Its the same with the introvert-extrovert thing. While I do agree this classification is true, I take it just as a observation, as a description of certain traits that had been observed in human behaviour. Other than that, I don't rely on it at all. I don't think at myself as a introvert, or at other people as extroverts, because I know is a very naive thing to do.

On the injustice and INFJs...I do not think and I don't state that INFJs are not bothered by injustice...they do...BUT...what I wanted to state is that many INFJs I met, including myslef, like to romanticise, to make it something fanciful this thing with injustice. To ascribe to themselfs a romatic quality about themselfs, as of "fighter for injustice", which for them becomes a "cause", but only one that is inherently tied to this type, the INFJ type.
And I respond to this that is all a illusion...because injustice and its moral consequences have been a theme for all the humanity, in all the history, and that means ANY type, wether that be ESTP or INFP...people of all kinds of types, different at so many levels, have found and have identified with moral themems like injustice, and to ascribe this as a sort of special quality to one type, like INFJs, and moeover, to romanticise it, as most of INFJs do it, its just so pathetic, to be honest. Its pitiful, because there are people, who fight as much against injustice, if not even more, as INFJs do, and they almost never mention about it...they just keep it to themselfs.
At least this is my opinion. I don't ascribe it to everybody, even that I think what I said is very true, and I'm very happy I found and realise these truths, because it makes me free of so many absurd things, like putting myself into a box, having illusions about me and other people, and many many nasty things.
 
I just see the 'fight against injustice' as a very practical thing

I think not engaging with what is going on is 'wishful non thinking' and i think it comes back worse in the end

That is a very practical view

The ideal imo is to have the head and heart working together