1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
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2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the bright-normal range.
Intelligent
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2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the bright-normal range.
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Could You Be A Serial Killer?
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True. There are a few serial killers (that we know of) that share very few of these traits.
...like that guy up in the Pacific Northwest with the wife, kids, good childhood, etc. who claimed that his Vietnam experience caused the craving to continue killing. He'd developed a taste for it, and needed to go hunt a human now and then. They found something like 30 bodies buried on his property.
Combine this with the list of traits, and it makes me think that the urge to kill is a by product of post traumatic stress disorder. It might not matter if the PTSD comes from childhood or adulthood. If there are the right combination of factors, the pain can end up channeled outward in the form of wanting to kill people while the damaged Amygdala does not provide proper resistance to it. It's not an easy balance to strike between all of the variables. Too much of anything can cause the inhibition to not do it, or the lack of careful precision that leads to the sort of scenes where someone flips out and shoots a bunch of people, then themselves. More likely, one of the missing pieces just causes the typical range of symptoms you will find in PTSD and adult victims of child abuse.
This is interesting.
To add a spiritual element to it... I wonder if PTSD and AVCA create a weaker resistance to demonic influence? Or if perhaps it's as simple as flipping the right switches in the mind to get the 'magic combination' for serial killer. My gut tells me it's both.
...like that guy up in the Pacific Northwest with the wife, kids, good childhood, etc. who claimed that his Vietnam experience caused the craving to continue killing. He'd developed a taste for it, and needed to go hunt a human now and then. They found something like 30 bodies buried on his property.
Combine this with the list of traits, and it makes me think that the urge to kill is a by product of post traumatic stress disorder. It might not matter if the PTSD comes from childhood or adulthood. If there are the right combination of factors, the pain can end up channeled outward in the form of wanting to kill people while the damaged Amygdala does not provide proper resistance to it. It's not an easy balance to strike between all of the variables. Too much of anything can cause the inhibition to not do it, or the lack of careful precision that leads to the sort of scenes where someone flips out and shoots a bunch of people, then themselves. More likely, one of the missing pieces just causes the typical range of symptoms you will find in PTSD and adult victims of child abuse.
This is interesting.
To add a spiritual element to it... I wonder if PTSD and AVCA create a weaker resistance to demonic influence? Or if perhaps it's as simple as flipping the right switches in the mind to get the 'magic combination' for serial killer. My gut tells me it's both.
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1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male. Yes.
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. I've never been able to maintain concentration on the task at hand all the way through the test. I usually end up thinking it's the most pointless and biased series of questions ever and abandon the test. only made to further boost the ego of it's creators themselves and only tests one kind of intelligence I see no reason to be adept at something a computer can do better anyway. I also don't like how it's timed. I tend to do things slowly and double check everything.
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. I didn't do well in school really because I didn't do my homework, I did fine on tests but a large percentage of grades in high school were based on homework. I always learned far more from lectures and the homework became tedious. As far as college went I didn't really want to be there it was more like I was forced into it by the goals my family had placed on me. As for jobs I am fairly consistent and am quite goal oriented. I tend to stick with a job for a long time if I stick with it at all.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. No, my family was extremely stable.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. Biologically; sort of. But I was adopted and raised by a very loving family of quite an opposite description and they are who I consider my family, not my birth parents.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. Biologically: N/A. No one in my family has any of the following.
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. I love both my parents.
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member. Nope, not at all.
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. Not exactly, although I have had certain "conditions" if you want to call them that. never spent time in any institution but did have a few "councilors" I guess they're called. All seemed like a bunch of old people that had spent way too much time in school masturbating over mental concepts at the time. Almost felt like they wanted to find something wrong. as if kids can't just engage in societally unusual behaviors just because they're kids.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. None, I'm too curious to see what happens next.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography. Maybe voyeurism a bit, nothing I would call "intensely interested" though.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. Nope, not that I can recall.
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. Yes, although only to a certain extent that's within my immediate control.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. I tormented insects when I was young, but animals never. the thought of such things makes me disgusted to be honest.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, such as theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. Not any real crimes that would effect anyone else other than myself.
16. They were frequently bullied as children. I was a bit, but I learned at an early age how to become "popular" it was never a problem after that. because I didn't have to stick up for myself that way, the community I was in would do it for me.
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. I've never been able to maintain concentration on the task at hand all the way through the test. I usually end up thinking it's the most pointless and biased series of questions ever and abandon the test. only made to further boost the ego of it's creators themselves and only tests one kind of intelligence I see no reason to be adept at something a computer can do better anyway. I also don't like how it's timed. I tend to do things slowly and double check everything.
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. I didn't do well in school really because I didn't do my homework, I did fine on tests but a large percentage of grades in high school were based on homework. I always learned far more from lectures and the homework became tedious. As far as college went I didn't really want to be there it was more like I was forced into it by the goals my family had placed on me. As for jobs I am fairly consistent and am quite goal oriented. I tend to stick with a job for a long time if I stick with it at all.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. No, my family was extremely stable.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. Biologically; sort of. But I was adopted and raised by a very loving family of quite an opposite description and they are who I consider my family, not my birth parents.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. Biologically: N/A. No one in my family has any of the following.
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. I love both my parents.
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member. Nope, not at all.
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. Not exactly, although I have had certain "conditions" if you want to call them that. never spent time in any institution but did have a few "councilors" I guess they're called. All seemed like a bunch of old people that had spent way too much time in school masturbating over mental concepts at the time. Almost felt like they wanted to find something wrong. as if kids can't just engage in societally unusual behaviors just because they're kids.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. None, I'm too curious to see what happens next.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography. Maybe voyeurism a bit, nothing I would call "intensely interested" though.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. Nope, not that I can recall.
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. Yes, although only to a certain extent that's within my immediate control.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. I tormented insects when I was young, but animals never. the thought of such things makes me disgusted to be honest.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, such as theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. Not any real crimes that would effect anyone else other than myself.
16. They were frequently bullied as children. I was a bit, but I learned at an early age how to become "popular" it was never a problem after that. because I didn't have to stick up for myself that way, the community I was in would do it for me.
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1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male. No
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. above 140.
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. was not great in school. Great with jobs though.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. Yes.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. It was the other way around for me
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. Yes.
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. Yes
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member. All of the above
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. No institutions but no stable home to speak of. Lived with different family members and then friends of family. Went to 10 different schools. most places were people doing drugs or was extremely poor.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. Once.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.
No.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. Never was an issue
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. No.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. Absolutely not.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, such as theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. Not really.
16. They were frequently bullied as children. Yes, was bullied in all of the schools I attended
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. above 140.
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. was not great in school. Great with jobs though.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. Yes.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. It was the other way around for me
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. Yes.
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. Yes
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member. All of the above
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. No institutions but no stable home to speak of. Lived with different family members and then friends of family. Went to 10 different schools. most places were people doing drugs or was extremely poor.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. Once.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.
No.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. Never was an issue
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. No.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. Absolutely not.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, such as theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. Not really.
16. They were frequently bullied as children. Yes, was bullied in all of the schools I attended
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I always read this thread title more like a challenge than a question
1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male. Yes.
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. 96 when I was 15yo also been medicated on risperidone and sertraline. Psychologist also wrote "might be false because he had hard attention issues and wasn't motivated". 86 when I was in psych hospital were hardly conscious, medicated on Haloperidol, paliperidone and benzos for side effects, later I became unconscious I couldn't respond, walk, peed in a tube, fed from a tube as well. Recently my IQ administered by psychologist was 196
They started to be angry at each other for psychologist failing IQ test. So I got 666 lol. On paid internet iq test got 167, oh those sixes... on free ones 139-198
3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. I was in the middle(in the best class I ever been, been in 5, I changed schools because my mom got tired of teachers calling her because of my behaviour) but had "trouble" with classmates.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. Yes.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. Pretty much. Absentee workaholic father who let my domineering mother run the show. Yep, exactly.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. No, they never seeked "help"
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. I like my dad. Yep.
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family. HELL YEAH.
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. Was diagnosed with depression 9yo - took sertraline, 15yo - depression again. 16yo - schizotypal disorder and then schizoaffective depressed type. 18yo - Paranoid Schizophrenia. Wasn't institutionalised when I was a kid if I remember correctly but we were going to a lot psychologists.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. No, Tho I did some stupid stuff that might cost me life.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.
Third class - I had a fantasy of many women tied me to a table and enjoyed me.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. No, if I remember correctly.
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. I would take fire bending for sure, but usually meh.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. I liked torturing flies and worms when I was little. But I was so concerned when a dog got beat up by my mom because he was stealing eggs or when two of them got shot but survived, not because survived, but shot.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, suchas theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. I remember
seller gave me 3litas more of change I gave it back, but I liked to steal anime cards from my friend. I also tried to throw a rock into his nose and I made it from first time his nose started to bleed and I was like "shit!" it was thrown from such a big distance, other kid was judged for it and we were going to his parents, but I told the judged one that it was me if he would want to take on me
16. They were frequently bullied as children. So often that I became a "Bully slayer", and would seek out bullies to beat them up, yep. Also I been put into dog poop two times, got thrown a brick into my head 4 times and many of rocks at me few times.
2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range. 96 when I was 15yo also been medicated on risperidone and sertraline. Psychologist also wrote "might be false because he had hard attention issues and wasn't motivated". 86 when I was in psych hospital were hardly conscious, medicated on Haloperidol, paliperidone and benzos for side effects, later I became unconscious I couldn't respond, walk, peed in a tube, fed from a tube as well. Recently my IQ administered by psychologist was 196
They started to be angry at each other for psychologist failing IQ test. So I got 666 lol. On paid internet iq test got 167, oh those sixes... on free ones 139-198 3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers. I was in the middle(in the best class I ever been, been in 5, I changed schools because my mom got tired of teachers calling her because of my behaviour) but had "trouble" with classmates.
4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families. Yes.
5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. Pretty much. Absentee workaholic father who let my domineering mother run the show. Yep, exactly.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. No, they never seeked "help"
7. They hate their fathers and mothers. I like my dad. Yep.
8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family. HELL YEAH.
9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. Was diagnosed with depression 9yo - took sertraline, 15yo - depression again. 16yo - schizotypal disorder and then schizoaffective depressed type. 18yo - Paranoid Schizophrenia. Wasn't institutionalised when I was a kid if I remember correctly but we were going to a lot psychologists.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. No, Tho I did some stupid stuff that might cost me life.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.
Third class - I had a fantasy of many women tied me to a table and enjoyed me.
12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12. No, if I remember correctly.
13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting. I would take fire bending for sure, but usually meh.
14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. I liked torturing flies and worms when I was little. But I was so concerned when a dog got beat up by my mom because he was stealing eggs or when two of them got shot but survived, not because survived, but shot.
15.Some were involved in petty crimes, suchas theft, fraud, vandalism, dishonesty or similar offenses. I remember
seller gave me 3litas more of change I gave it back, but I liked to steal anime cards from my friend. I also tried to throw a rock into his nose and I made it from first time his nose started to bleed and I was like "shit!" it was thrown from such a big distance, other kid was judged for it and we were going to his parents, but I told the judged one that it was me if he would want to take on me
16. They were frequently bullied as children. So often that I became a "Bully slayer", and would seek out bullies to beat them up, yep. Also I been put into dog poop two times, got thrown a brick into my head 4 times and many of rocks at me few times.