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A good enneagram test: finally!

I think the numbers depend on the information that each writer is putting out, and each one is different. Each test is composed of various inputs - the questions are themselves based on a matrix that could have come from Riso, Palmer, or from Naranjo himself, with the test-maker also misinterpreting or not comprehending the original matrix from which they are working. This test is supposedly overseen by Beatrice Chestnut whose book leans heavily on Naranjo's work, especially with regard to his revisioning of the subtypes. I got an SP 4 from it. From the eclectic energies test I usually get a SX 5. So, it's hard to know which is which and what is what. As with any detective work once we try to think about the evidence that might convict a certain perp, we find that evidence. But the evidence could equally convict another perp. I am both fourish and fivish, and all the subtypes are there, too, depending on the description from which I am working. To an extent this is the blind leading the blind. Naranjo is now over eighty and in some of his talks he has waived away the enneagram as a foolish thing that isn't well-constructed. He has also dissed Riso. And Ichazo. Lots of o's in the enneagram world. The MBTI is more down to earth perhaps and more Protestant, more empirical.
 
I guess I should be embarrassed to admit that I spent the 96 dollars and got the full readout. However, I did it. The testmaker let me take the test three times and each time I got an SP 4 with a three wing. Here is a funny fact - that although I had way more points in five, he said that the true wing was three. He didn't say how he knew this, but it was from secondary conclusions. The SP 4 has been rewritten from "dauntless" to "tenacious" as its central term. Not so much "risk-taking" any longer, as dedication to working at acquiring the things that one wants, desires, envies. The readout went on for fifty pages with lots of files and charts and data. I've read it through several times. I trusted it more than most of these tests because the origins of it are less obscure and the test maker (a guy named Dirk Cloete) talked with me about it. He's in South Africa, but is on board a jet right now en route to meet Claudio Naranjo some place.
 
What does 96 bucks buy you?
 
50 pages. I don't know how individualized it is. You get your subtype, and lots of other things. I think it's probably accurate. It seemed spot on at times. I don't think it's a lot of money if you think about how much time some people spend trying to find their type and make certain of it. It saves all kinds of time.
 
Well I dont have enough money these days to blow $96 on a test. Maybe I will in the future at some point again. For now the basic was cool and I agree with rawr about the beer. These days I drink Omission though, not as if I have a choice. I really miss beer.
 
This is a serious high-class test. The 42 page readout is extremely interesting. I'm convinced by it. There is a lot of peculiarly insightful information that I'm too embarrassed to reveal but which has helped me through a serious crisis.
 
Its an interesting site. Looks professional. One day when I have $96 to blow I might delve deeper. As it is right now, times are tough. Well have to wait until Obama is out of office I think to see people back in jobs actually related to their careers.
 
[h=2]4. Intense Creative[/h]Deep connection to emotions with a desire to live a meaningful, authentic life of self-expressionCreative, Intense, Emotional, Expressive
Key Motivations: Being authentic and expressing individuality, being attuned and true to your emotions, making a difference
 
This is a good test.

5. Quiet Specialist

In trying to objectively understand the world you explore concepts and acquire in-depth knowledge

Private, Cerebral, Detached, Curious

Key Motivations: Making sense of the world, conserving resources, avoiding dependence, pursuit of knowledge
 
1. Strict Perfectionist

Strong sense of "right" and "wrong", believing that things are not worth doing if not done correctly

Conscientious, Perfectionist, Critical, Controlled

Key Motivations: Doing the right thing, avoiding mistakes and working towards self-improvement and self-control
 
9. Adaptive Peacemaker

Patiently working to create a harmonious environment, you go with the flow while being aware of others

Easy-going, non-aggressive,
accommodating, patient


Key Motivations: Promoting harmony and peace, getting input from others, creating comfort and routines, avoiding conflict
 
7. Enthusiastic Visionary

Actively seeking enjoyment and stimulation you are future-focused, active and positive in your approach to life

Optimistic, Spontaneous, Keen, Uninhibited

Key Motivations: Avoiding boredom and pain, experiencing the possibilities of life, pursuing interests and pleasure, freedom
 
That was an unbearably long test. My ADD went nuts. Anywho,

4. Intense Creative

Deep connection to emotions with a desire to live a meaningful, authentic life of self-expressionCreative, Intense, Emotional, Expressive
Key Motivations: Being authentic and expressing individuality, being attuned and true to your emotions, making a difference