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Thoughts on contemporary hip-hop?

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So hip-hop/rap as a genre has obviously changed/evolved since its origins, and it's now in an era that (in my opinion) resembles the progressive rock era of the 1970s. Rappers are beginning to incorporate other genres of music into their work, and many are beginning to focus lyrical themes on social issues that extend beyond the traditional "gangstas and hos". There also tends to be a lot of irony implemented as a means of mocking the ridiculousness of the mainstream rap industry.

On the other hand, most of these artists tend to be from middle class backgrounds and have been accused of commandeering the genre. There's also the stigma that many modern rappers are just trying to be absurd as a means of producing as many memes as possible.

Examples:

[video=youtube;TErySTMbFlk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TErySTMbFlk[/video]

[video=youtube;xjIpHoXcihI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjIpHoXcihI[/video]

[video=youtube;GrzqaYdwHjI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrzqaYdwHjI[/video]

[video=youtube;uoZgZT4DGSY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY[/video]

Has hip-hop finally reached a point of being of artistic/academic value, or is the modern hip-hop scene just a bunch of shit that appeals to kids on tumblr?
 
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My thought is that hip-hop should be killed with fire...
That is my thought.
 
Im a fan of rap. I thats what you mean bye hip hop. I'm a fan of many more music as they say.
Thoughts.
Not any....the pioneers are out there doing thre work. But to over analyse. The state of is up for opinions. So yeh I think its good.
Dont know why people listen when I talk about music. I'm still "average".
I thinks the culture of hip hop has always been evolving. I get my coffee joint pen n paper n start writting about everyday life.
Thats hip hop, to me.
 
I love gangster rap. The worse it is, the better I like it. I like when it's so stupid and obscene as to almost be comical. I find it wildly entertaining. Now, would I go pay for that music or go see a concert or something? No. But I do love singing along to "Move Bitch" by Ludacris and other stuff.
 
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SpecialEdition said:
I love gangster rap. The worse it is, the better I like it. I like when it's so stupid and obscene as to almost be comical. I find it wildly entertaining. Now, would I go pay for that music or go see a concert or something? No. But I do love singing along to "Move Bitch" by Ludacris and other stuff.
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Yes, exactly this!
 
SpecialEdition said:
I love gangster rap. The worse it is, the better I like it. I like when it's so stupid and obscene as to almost be comical. I find it wildly entertaining. Now, would I go pay for that music or go see a concert or something? No. But I do love singing along to "Move Bitch" by Ludacris and other stuff.
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Isnt all rap Gangsta ?
 
Gangsta rap was created as a way to misslead the youth. It was the brainchild of producers and investors who promoted perfomers who provided what they wanted to produce

They then rewarded those people well for damaging the minds of the youth

Many young males in particular are looking for role models and gangsta rap was a bad one

There are still people expressing themselves through rap who have a genuine message they are trying to convey

For example Immortal technique. He's smart, he's eloquent and he's switched on

[video=youtube;IXz6nmQ_lxk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXz6nmQ_lxk[/video]

[video=youtube;6bdr_2IAJWU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdr_2IAJWU[/video]
 
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Eventhorizon said:
My thought is that hip-hop should be killed with fire...
That is my thought.
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That's because you have absolutely no clue what hip-hop is. You've never listened to it, you've never seen it, and you've never been part of it. It's something you don't understand and so it's easier for you to hate it than it is for you to learn about it. Maybe you should approach hip-hop with curiosity. Ask yourself, "why has this culture penetrated the lives of millions of people all over the planet?". If you approach it with that mindset you will begin to grow an appreciation for it and your inability to appreciate the culture will cease to exist.

Here's a good starting point for you; research the 4 elements of hip-hop. Yes, hip-hop has 4 elements... this is a fundamental concept behind the culture that you hate. Hating hip-hop without first understanding the elements is like hating Christianity and having no clue who Jesus is.
 
[video=youtube;aG_ajm_Dg_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG_ajm_Dg_c[/video]
 
[video=youtube;0vtz8JILGDM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vtz8JILGDM[/video]
 
Some of my favorite artists:

[video=youtube;-jUB3n6GfLg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jUB3n6GfLg&feature=kp[/video]

[video=youtube;HfXwmDGJAB8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXwmDGJAB8[/video]

[video=youtube;L8wtLCKKBMw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wtLCKKBMw[/video]
 
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[video=youtube;2frJ3e0hxPE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frJ3e0hxPE#t=56[/video]
 
Murs and Slugo
[video=youtube;p126gt7ZplE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p126gt7ZplE[/video]

E-40 from the valley-joe
[video=youtube;byuQVTdlfos]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byuQVTdlfos[/video]

Meek Mill
[video=youtube;Z0s3ECXHV-U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0s3ECXHV-U[/video]

Mac Driggidy
[video=youtube;QEAoziA_aIM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEAoziA_aIM[/video]
 
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It's poetry and it's still got power as a form of expression for dissaffected youth
 
[video=youtube;LKfvPm7w67A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKfvPm7w67A#t=93[/video]
 
I absolutely love it.

I think, like with any music, there's authentic hiphop and manufactured hiphop. I like both. I find the manufactured hiphop makes you move like nothing else- it makes you want to do things you wouldn't normally do.

Authentic rap and hiphop is completely different. The emotion reaches out to you. It can tell a story. Give hope. And create unity. I think a lot of people don't understand the genuine heart and soul that goes into the music, or what it represents.
 
Ummm I did not say people that listen to hip hop are wrong for doing so [MENTION=10321]Lone Wolf[/MENTION] (wb btw). I only said that given the chance I would kill all hip hop with fire. So lets just hope I get the opportunity to do so before someone can stop me.
 
So..I see above and artist with the name of lil n**** snupe.

I have a real issue with any word being off limits. Words are words. But I being a white person will clearly never understand so I let it go. I dont think about it much anyway until I run into black people throwing it around.
It will be listed as one of my top meaningless annoyances in this life after I am dead and asked.
 
Eventhorizon said:
So..I see above and artist with the name of lil n**** snupe.

I have a real issue with any word being off limits. Words are words. But I being a white person will clearly never understand so I let it go. I dont think about it much anyway until I run into black people throwing it around.
It will be listed as one of my top meaningless annoyances in this life after I am dead and asked.
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This is a thread about hip-hop. Not about the N word, black people, or you feeling angry. Please stay on topic.

=)
 
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